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Topic: Instawallet is shutting down (Update: not anymore, a new owner has been found) (Read 4342 times)

legendary
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jav
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Hey there!

Thanks everyone for all the interest in the site. It's great to see people valuing the service! I'm happy to announce that I found a great team of people to take over the site. The fine folks at bitcoin-central.net will be running Instawallet starting from next Monday. More details in the announcement thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-instawallet-is-back-alive-and-well-67602 .
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Yes, you are right - everyone can get their funds back so long as they know who to contact, they contact them within a certain amount of time, etc.  What about those who forgot about the handful of BTC they left on instawallet, and stumble across their address 3 months from now?  Sure, you could say they deserved to lose it, but that doesn't change the fact that there IS incentive for jav to shut it down.

My interpretation is that the service is closing down when most funds have been withdrawn. I would certainly expect a static page with contact information to be there for at least 3 months. I do not think that people deserve to lose their money for not visiting the site for 3 months.

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But even if I had the money, it'd be hard for me to cough up the asking price for a site that doesn't have any method of generating revenue.

If the site has a lot of users I'm sure there are ways to generate revenue.
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Someone please buy this and keep it running...!
A couple people have offered.

I kind of hate to bring this up, but given that jav gets to keep all the coins that go unclaimed.... well, I'd call that pretty big incentive to shut it down.
TBH, I kinda think that's uncalled for.  I think he mentioned he'd honor people's claims even after it's shut down.

We've been in discussion with jav regarding buying the site, and we will unfortunately not go through with it.

I hope someone else steps up and have the money to invest in it.

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Regards, Jim
Bit LC Inc.
https://www.bitlc.net
What is the general price range he's looking for?
pc
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Seems that the concept of InstaWallet is really similar to the deterministic-wallet kind of concept. Could instawallet take the unique part of the URL, hash it to make a private key, and send the funds to the corresponding address? Then, any site at all would be able to take over and use the same model, to show the balance of the address associated with the hash of the unique URL part and create the transactions to spend them. There could be competing instawallet services that are compatible (though I don't know how desirable that would be), but by storing the funds "in the blockchain" rather than with a particular provider, one wouldn't be dependent on one particular service staying open forever. (Though of course any provider with whom you've checked on your balance would be able to take your money, but that's not really any different than it is today.) Don't know if I'm expressing this well, but if I had more time I would put together a site that did this and probably open-source it.
legendary
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I kind of hate to bring this up, but given that jav gets to keep all the coins that go unclaimed.... well, I'd call that pretty big incentive to shut it down.

I seriously don't see the point of this post. Do you believe that that's why he is shutting down? If he feels that he doesn't have time to run it there is really nothing else to do than what he did. Everyone can get their funds back, he will handle requests manually after the site has been shut down. He also told people to get in touch if they wanted to acquire it.
Well, he could not require everyone to withdraw their funds or they are lost while he looks for a buyer.  There's no reason to shut it down and require everyone withdraw their funds.

Yes, you are right - everyone can get their funds back so long as they know who to contact, they contact them within a certain amount of time, etc.  What about those who forgot about the handful of BTC they left on instawallet, and stumble across their address 3 months from now?  Sure, you could say they deserved to lose it, but that doesn't change the fact that there IS incentive for jav to shut it down.

I hope I am proven wrong, that someone does come along and buy the site (or that jav decides to keep it going until the right buyer comes along).  But even if I had the money, it'd be hard for me to cough up the asking price for a site that doesn't have any method of generating revenue.
donator
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Someone please buy this and keep it running...!

We are in negotiations with Jav to try to buy the site, and keep it running free as it is right now. We have made our offer, and waiting for a resolution.

We would like to offer this service through our company free of charge for the community. Hopefully we will reach an agreement. If not, I have my technical people analyzing how long would it take to implement this by ourselves.

It seems having a convenient wallet service like this is pivotal for Bitcoin newcomers and Bitcoin evangelization in general. We are willing to do our part to help!

Roberto
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I kind of hate to bring this up, but given that jav gets to keep all the coins that go unclaimed.... well, I'd call that pretty big incentive to shut it down.

I seriously don't see the point of this post. Do you believe that that's why he is shutting down? If he feels that he doesn't have time to run it there is really nothing else to do than what he did. Everyone can get their funds back, he will handle requests manually after the site has been shut down. He also told people to get in touch if they wanted to acquire it.
legendary
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I kind of hate to bring this up, but given that jav gets to keep all the coins that go unclaimed.... well, I'd call that pretty big incentive to shut it down.
donator
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Maybe Instawallet needs to be operated by an autonomous agent rather than a human.
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We've been in discussion with jav regarding buying the site, and we will unfortunately not go through with it.

I hope someone else steps up and have the money to invest in it.

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Regards, Jim
Bit LC Inc.
https://www.bitlc.net
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has there been an attempt to wash some of the recently stolen money using instawallet?

I'd guess this might be one of the reasons for it to close.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
Googling "instawallet clone" gives seemingly full instructions. Someone really should do this. If it is a reputable person I can promise some advertising money from Seals.

I've been using instawallet to show new players at Seals how Bitcoin works. I think it will make them more comfortable buying coins to play with.
legendary
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Someone please buy this and keep it running...!
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You're fat, because you dont have any pics on FB
WTF!!!   Embarrassed


I really liked instawallet..

how the hell can this happen ?
legendary
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Nevermind they came over nicely  Smiley
jav
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How long should it take for bitcoins to leave instawallet? I moved some bitcoins from a few instawallet address's ....

With the large of number of transactions at the moment, it might take several hours if not up to a day (for the transactions to confirm). Please just give it some time, it will reach you eventually.
legendary
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How long should it take for bitcoins to leave instawallet? I moved some bitcoins from a few instawallet address's ....
legendary
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Sorry to hear it. Thanks very much for your excellent work. Peace.
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