Topic: Interview with the CEO of bitmain - page 2. (Read 2399 times)
I don't understand why bitmain is not make scrypt miner.
Oh wow i missed it the part where it said it came with a BM1384. What a waste! O.o
My source;
https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/antrouter-r1-the-router-that-mines-bitcoin/
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Q:Will AntRouter waste energy?
A:Router’s rated power is only 2W, Its consumption is negligible.
A:Router’s rated power is only 2W, Its consumption is negligible.
My source;
https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/antrouter-r1-the-router-that-mines-bitcoin/
Well the rated power of the router is 2W. So, very little power to the chip. At the very least it would need to be a BM1385 chip. Anyways not much cooling required. It also mean not much hashrate possible.
Wow, ok, I hadn't looked at the details much and I missed that. Yeah, no cooling required but major waste of a chip. And they do specifically say (in the interview) it's a BM1384. It's probably running 100MHz or even less depending on how much of that 2W is available- you're talking closer to 5GH/s.
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novak
Meh. (Speculating)It seem like its true purpose is going to let you point your miners to your router and it will act as a proxy of sort. Of course forcing the hashpower to antpool. Otherwise i don't see why the device's hash would be obligatory tied to your Ant/Bitmain account.
What better excuse than this to gather more TX fees from mined blocks?
What better excuse than this to gather more TX fees from mined blocks?
It's a better miner than a lot of things that are miners and everything that is only sorta miner.
You'd be looking at under 10GH even with the BM1385. Depends on how much power the entire rest of the device takes. Seems like kind of a waste.
I think you hit the nail on the head. It is a PR thing they for some reason think will help cloud mining I think. They have not released hardly anything but I wonder if they can find a way to tie in cloud mining with it.
If they for example have this router have a chip that does almost nothing and shows cloud mining stats. I feel safe saying your compac is a better miner then whatever this ends up being with the router.
You'd be looking at under 10GH even with the BM1385. Depends on how much power the entire rest of the device takes. Seems like kind of a waste.
What I want to know is how they plan to cool the chip in the router. Unless there is a little fan or a big heatsink the BM1384 will have to run pretty low end.
I couldn't say what it would cost but it should be cheaper to add something in a corner of an existing board than to make a completely stand alone board. Now, what they'll sell it for is another story, given their recent market dominance.
It's a much better idea than the bitfury lightbulb because routers already have internet connections. The lightbulb is just comical because you're adding complex, low volt DC electronics to a high volt AC connection. Thus you have to have an integrated PSU which adds a lot to the cost, is probably worse on efficiency, and there's still no reason to have an internet connection in your light socket. Bitmain's chip in a router makes sense, at least conceptually.
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novak
I couldn't say what it would cost but it should be cheaper to add something in a corner of an existing board than to make a completely stand alone board. Now, what they'll sell it for is another story, given their recent market dominance.
It's a much better idea than the bitfury lightbulb because routers already have internet connections. The lightbulb is just comical because you're adding complex, low volt DC electronics to a high volt AC connection. Thus you have to have an integrated PSU which adds a lot to the cost, is probably worse on efficiency, and there's still no reason to have an internet connection in your light socket. Bitmain's chip in a router makes sense, at least conceptually.
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novak
Well the rated power of the router is 2W. So, very little power to the chip. At the very least it would need to be a BM1385 chip. Anyways not much cooling required. It also mean not much hashrate possible.
What I want to know is how they plan to cool the chip in the router. Unless there is a little fan or a big heatsink the BM1384 will have to run pretty low end.
I couldn't say what it would cost but it should be cheaper to add something in a corner of an existing board than to make a completely stand alone board. Now, what they'll sell it for is another story, given their recent market dominance.
It's a much better idea than the bitfury lightbulb because routers already have internet connections. The lightbulb is just comical because you're adding complex, low volt DC electronics to a high volt AC connection. Thus you have to have an integrated PSU which adds a lot to the cost, is probably worse on efficiency, and there's still no reason to have an internet connection in your light socket. Bitmain's chip in a router makes sense, at least conceptually.
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novak
I couldn't say what it would cost but it should be cheaper to add something in a corner of an existing board than to make a completely stand alone board. Now, what they'll sell it for is another story, given their recent market dominance.
It's a much better idea than the bitfury lightbulb because routers already have internet connections. The lightbulb is just comical because you're adding complex, low volt DC electronics to a high volt AC connection. Thus you have to have an integrated PSU which adds a lot to the cost, is probably worse on efficiency, and there's still no reason to have an internet connection in your light socket. Bitmain's chip in a router makes sense, at least conceptually.
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novak
Indeed, i would love to see a 1800gh/450w unit. I don't really care that its double the KG(weight)/GH ratio. I don't really care that i'd have to pay 20$ shipping per TH instead of 10$/TH.
THAT. Is what i want. Not some AntRouter, not some 1400w unit that does 80dB.
THAT. Is what i want. Not some AntRouter, not some 1400w unit that does 80dB.
I kind of doubt you're going to get it for cheaper than a tplink 25$+sidehack stick 25$.
I guess we'll see but as with most gimmicky stuff and pretty much everything Bitmain has been selling lately, its going to be overpriced.
I guess we'll see but as with most gimmicky stuff and pretty much everything Bitmain has been selling lately, its going to be overpriced.
Correct. Slapping Sidehack's cgminer(or whoever is doing the coding) on my TpLink is fairly easy and the router already come with USB ports. I could even put a usb hub and run a farm of them on it.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
I think it's their response to bitfury's lightbulb. They want some item that is for show and fun. Personally I think the lightbulb was a cooler thing as I cannot build that.
I just wonder what price will be. If they jack it up to much on router will be funny to see tplink nano + usb miner cheaper.
First you have to have the tplink nano with usb. They make one with it and one without it. But you would flash it with custom firmware it is a very capable device.
Most went the raspberry pi route, but avalon has used the tplink with their 4.1's using custom firmware. But it's openwrt custom firmware that run's cgminer.
Mine is already on Openwrt, it was fairly simple. I'm assuming you,re saying compiling the HEX miner was hard? I've not had problem with cgminer before.
It worked for many Avalon 4.1 owners. So I'm going to assume was the miner. Don't get me wrong I will probley buy one to play with. But I'm not that impressed with router with chip. Not calling it a "dream" product.
Correct. Slapping Sidehack's cgminer(or whoever is doing the coding) on my TpLink is fairly easy and the router already come with USB ports. I could even put a usb hub and run a farm of them on it.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
I think it's their response to bitfury's lightbulb. They want some item that is for show and fun. Personally I think the lightbulb was a cooler thing as I cannot build that.
I just wonder what price will be. If they jack it up to much on router will be funny to see tplink nano + usb miner cheaper.
First you have to have the tplink nano with usb. They make one with it and one without it. But you would flash it with custom firmware it is a very capable device.
Most went the raspberry pi route, but avalon has used the tplink with their 4.1's using custom firmware. But it's openwrt custom firmware that run's cgminer.
Mine is already on Openwrt, it was fairly simple. I'm assuming you,re saying compiling the HEX miner was hard? I've not had problem with cgminer before.
well this new miners are for 2016 and are they represented into specifics?
Correct. Slapping Sidehack's cgminer(or whoever is doing the coding) on my TpLink is fairly easy and the router already come with USB ports. I could even put a usb hub and run a farm of them on it.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
I think it's their response to bitfury's lightbulb. They want some item that is for show and fun. Personally I think the lightbulb was a cooler thing as I cannot build that.
I just wonder what price will be. If they jack it up to much on router will be funny to see tplink nano + usb miner cheaper.
First you have to have the tplink nano with usb. They make one with it and one without it. But you would flash it with custom firmware it is a very capable device.
Most went the raspberry pi route, but avalon has used the tplink with their 4.1's using custom firmware. But it's openwrt custom firmware that run's cgminer.
Correct. Slapping Sidehack's cgminer(or whoever is doing the coding) on my TpLink is fairly easy and the router already come with USB ports. I could even put a usb hub and run a farm of them on it.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
I think it's their response to bitfury's lightbulb. They want some item that is for show and fun. Personally I think the lightbulb was a cooler thing as I cannot build that.
I just wonder what price will be. If they jack it up to much on router will be funny to see tplink nano + usb miner cheaper.
Correct. Slapping Sidehack's cgminer(or whoever is doing the coding) on my TpLink is fairly easy and the router already come with USB ports. I could even put a usb hub and run a farm of them on it.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
Hence i don't see the point on the AntRouter. It sound gimmicky and also it only mine to antpool. Meh.
I guess people are still speculating on the BTC value going up to 600s? I don't know, it just seem like there's a world of difference between the perceived value of the miners.
I think i'm part of the logic/pragmatic side;
"Okay so it will most likely take 6+ months to break even before considering price/diff fluctuation and electricity cost. Yeah no, pass."
Versus;
"A new miner? Omg i throw money at screen but its not shipping out any faster
."
Meanwhile i'll put a sidehack stick in my Luci open-wrt router and bam! AntRouter!?
I think i'm part of the logic/pragmatic side;
"Okay so it will most likely take 6+ months to break even before considering price/diff fluctuation and electricity cost. Yeah no, pass."
Versus;
"A new miner? Omg i throw money at screen but its not shipping out any faster
."Meanwhile i'll put a sidehack stick in my Luci open-wrt router and bam! AntRouter!?
lol, I don't think that he will market it as such.
He dosent have to we can already do this. Avalon used the tp nano to control their miners. You had a choice of raspberry pi or tp link nano with usb.
We have the technology to make the "antrouter" with existing open-wrt and usb mining stick. I still laugh they call it a "dream" device. I want to see specs. They really would have to do something amazing for it to do something we already cant do with other options.
I guess people are still speculating on the BTC value going up to 600s? I don't know, it just seem like there's a world of difference between the perceived value of the miners.
I think i'm part of the logic/pragmatic side;
"Okay so it will most likely take 6+ months to break even before considering price/diff fluctuation and electricity cost. Yeah no, pass."
Versus;
"A new miner? Omg i throw money at screen but its not shipping out any faster."
Meanwhile i'll put a sidehack stick in my Luci open-wrt router and bam! AntRouter!?
I think i'm part of the logic/pragmatic side;
"Okay so it will most likely take 6+ months to break even before considering price/diff fluctuation and electricity cost. Yeah no, pass."
Versus;
"A new miner? Omg i throw money at screen but its not shipping out any faster
."Meanwhile i'll put a sidehack stick in my Luci open-wrt router and bam! AntRouter!?
lol, I don't think that he will market it as such.
I guess people are still speculating on the BTC value going up to 600s? I don't know, it just seem like there's a world of difference between the perceived value of the miners.
I think i'm part of the logic/pragmatic side;
"Okay so it will most likely take 6+ months to break even before considering price/diff fluctuation and electricity cost. Yeah no, pass."
Versus;
"A new miner? Omg i throw money at screen but its not shipping out any faster."
Meanwhile i'll put a sidehack stick in my Luci open-wrt router and bam! AntRouter!?
I think i'm part of the logic/pragmatic side;
"Okay so it will most likely take 6+ months to break even before considering price/diff fluctuation and electricity cost. Yeah no, pass."
Versus;
"A new miner? Omg i throw money at screen but its not shipping out any faster
."Meanwhile i'll put a sidehack stick in my Luci open-wrt router and bam! AntRouter!?
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