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Sander

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Quote from: paulk on April 06, 2013, 04:24:23 PM

It is also quite easy to change your bitcoins to normal money in cash. At least in Amsterdam, it is. For your daily food, you don't have to touch the ATM, if you have some bitcoins lying around.

Here in Arnhem I haven't heard anybody about bitcoins yet. Maybe now that I've picked up on it I'll hear more about it though.

franl

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Hello, I've been a programmer for ~25 years. I used to lurk on the Cypherpunks mailing list back in the '90s. I'm very interested in the algorithms and crypto behind Bitcoin.

I'm concerned that Bitcoin will suffer if a large amount of hashpower become centralized in a one or a few miners (or pools of miners). I'd be interested in other people's opinions on this.
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paulk

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I have to sleep, but if you find it interesting and want to know, how to take some precautions to make it safer, maybe we can talk later about it.

Good night.

paulk

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Quote from: creamynebula on April 06, 2013, 04:33:21 PM

But what do you do to complete these purchases like in a cafe or something, you use a tablet/smartphone to do the BTC transaction?

Just WIFI, a somewhat busy cafe and some trust they won't kill you/rob you/give fake money/too little. Almost every cafe has WIFI now. In the Netherlands you don't have to be afraid for cops getting you this way, they are restricted by law.

There is some risk. You will have a problem if you travel around the city with a lot of money.

ertylee

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hi everyone

creamynebula

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Quote from: paulk on April 06, 2013, 04:24:23 PM

Quote from: walker05 on April 06, 2013, 04:06:37 PM

I also live in the Netherlands, however not from here originally. What do you think about the chances of bitcoin becoming mainstream in Holland?

I see these factors:
-general public does not like the euro in general
-distrust in the banking system
-does not like bailing out the southerners with their hard earned tax money
-very strong sense of freedom and individualism
-modern libertarian society
-good track record of accepting new ground breaking ideas (example: reformist church, birth control, euthanasia, same sex marriage etc)
-high tech IT literature population

Could Holland be a pioneer country for a decentralized currency?

I would say definitely yes, because we already had noppes, which was a local currency. In the beginning it wasn't worth a lot, but at a certain moment you could buy diamond rings with it and hire an advocate. It broke down, because the tax agency started to restrict the use of free noppes. You can have 3000 noppes now then you have to pay taxes.

There are a lot more of these systems. (E.g. http://www.letsnijmegen.nl/) I think bitcoin (or a fork tailored for local usage) could be used as a strong, safe for taxation, backbone for these local currencies. Maybe somebody should tip them. I am not sure, if they are aware of the possibilities.

Another thing I observed, is that a lot of dutch are using silkroad and atlantis. It is also quite easy to change your bitcoins to normal money in cash. At least in Amsterdam, it is. For your daily food, you don't have to touch the ATM, if you have some bitcoins lying around.

But what do you do to complete these purchases like in a cafe or something, you use a tablet/smartphone to do the BTC transaction?

ertylee

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hi everyone

paulk

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Quote from: walker05 on April 06, 2013, 04:06:37 PM

I also live in the Netherlands, however not from here originally. What do you think about the chances of bitcoin becoming mainstream in Holland?

I see these factors:
-general public does not like the euro in general
-distrust in the banking system
-does not like bailing out the southerners with their hard earned tax money
-very strong sense of freedom and individualism
-modern libertarian society
-good track record of accepting new ground breaking ideas (example: reformist church, birth control, euthanasia, same sex marriage etc)
-high tech IT literature population

Could Holland be a pioneer country for a decentralized currency?

I would say definitely yes, because we already had noppes, which was a local currency. In the beginning it wasn't worth a lot, but at a certain moment you could buy diamond rings with it and hire an advocate. It broke down, because the tax agency started to restrict the use of free noppes. You can have 3000 noppes now then you have to pay taxes.

There are a lot more of these systems. (E.g. http://www.letsnijmegen.nl/) I think bitcoin (or a fork tailored for local usage) could be used as a strong, safe for taxation, backbone for these local currencies. Maybe somebody should tip them. I am not sure, if they are aware of the possibilities.

Another thing I observed, is that a lot of dutch are using silkroad and atlantis. It is also quite easy to change your bitcoins to normal money in cash. At least in Amsterdam, it is. For your daily food, you don't have to touch the ATM, if you have some bitcoins lying around.

sickhouse

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Been unemplyed for too long so recently I started trying to make money from my computer.. This city lacks jobs badly Sad

walker05

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Quote from: Rarara on April 06, 2013, 03:58:49 PM

Quote from: BladeRunner on April 06, 2013, 03:56:06 PM

Quote from: pcannon on April 06, 2013, 03:06:37 PM

Hope to earn some street cred. here. Dis-appointmented that mining is only for pros now.

Not really. You need some decent hardware as in video card but even that can be put on a pool to mine for coins.

Not really- it is going to take quite a bit of effort and a spare 'good' machine to get anything close to a profit on this new wave of venture capitalism.
Even so, I will do what I can to make some 'free' money.;
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what an awful society this is. =)

There are around ~20000 miners out there at the moment, only a handful of them are on the new ASICs... what if the 20000 gpu miners would ddos the ASIC folks?

akhavr

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Quote from: maxklinov on April 06, 2013, 03:45:39 PM

The last one. Anyone know why mtgox livegraph disappear? I wait about 5 min but nothing... maybe its my browser trouble...

Because of continuing ddos attack. Static files are *much* cheaper to serve

walker05

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Quote from: paulk on April 06, 2013, 03:24:17 PM

I am a programmer (Haskell, C, Perl, Ruby, Perl, Scala etc), 29 years old, 3 children and have a good job. I live in the Netherlands. Politically I am a libertarian, but with some strange nationalistic tendencies. I know, that's bad, but it seems it somehow got mixed up in my system.

I have been quite a while interested in bitcoin, but only observed it, because I was busy setting up a company (and then again and again). My other interests are cryptography, stenography, programming -of course-, mathematics, physics and the financial world. This last interest I picked up quite late. Unfortunately too late, because if I was more interested I would have jumped in the bitcoin project more early, but I am happy there is a real free currency with free as in freedom. I have also a strong interest in psychology, religions, medicine -especially drugs-, writing poems and martial arts.

I probably like to discuss here about economics, technical stuff, programming, politics, psychology and from time to time try some experiment. I also are willing to help others with stuff. Mostly doesn't matter what, as long as it interests me and I have time. And sometimes I will troll, but I don't have bad intentions when I do that. Just poking then.

I also live in the Netherlands, however not from here originally. What do you think about the chances of bitcoin becoming mainstream in Holland?

I see these factors:
-general public does not like the euro in general
-distrust in the banking system
-does not like bailing out the southerners with their hard earned tax money
-very strong sense of freedom and individualism
-modern libertarian society
-good track record of accepting new ground breaking ideas (example: reformist church, birth control, euthanasia, same sex marriage etc)
-high tech IT literature population

Could Holland be a pioneer country for a decentralized currency?

Rarara

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Quote from: BladeRunner on April 06, 2013, 03:56:06 PM

Quote from: pcannon on April 06, 2013, 03:06:37 PM

Hope to earn some street cred. here. Dis-appointmented that mining is only for pros now.

Not really. You need some decent hardware as in video card but even that can be put on a pool to mine for coins.

Not really- it is going to take quite a bit of effort and a spare 'good' machine to get anything close to a profit on this new wave of venture capitalism.
Even so, I will do what I can to make some 'free' money.;
\

what an awful society this is. =)

BladeRunner

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Cheif Oompa Loompa.

Quote from: pcannon on April 06, 2013, 03:06:37 PM

Hope to earn some street cred. here. Dis-appointmented that mining is only for pros now.

Not really. You need some decent hardware as in video card but even that can be put on a pool to mine for coins.

walker05

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hi all, just joined the forum now. Heard about bitcoins a while ago, but started looking into it more just in the last month due to the headlines.

A decentralized economy through a decentralized currency sounds a very interesting idea to me which potentially could bring a new (better) world order for all of us. I strongly believe that governments teamed up with powerful banks cannot bring long lasting well being to the general public - even if this was the intention in the first place.

Payment systems such as bitcoin should help in decoupling the government from the banks.

Having worked for several years in the exchange market making business (derivatives) my main interest is to come up with a good valuation model for bitcoins.

fwf

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Hi all!

maxklinov

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The last one. Anyone know why mtgox livegraph disappear? I wait about 5 min but nothing... maybe its my browser trouble...

maxklinov

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Any ideas about how to send 500 000 000 Satoshi to the future and avoid of missing it? Cheesy

akhavr

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Oh man... Have to get my post count up :-) Just today discussed with my team how we can move our internal payment processing to btc and ripple. Watching how many cool projects are unfolding is cool

Moosh

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Hello all!

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