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sr. member
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Why should the user need to interact with the mining computer? Most good mining setups I see just plug in and turn on and autostart the mining software. And using windows 7 is just adding to your expenses. Not a very good business strategy, imo.
sr. member
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yung lean
I'd actually recommend a 16 gig SSD (Kingston).  I've put them in my mining rigs, they're only $50 (no tax/shipping) on Amazon.  Assuming you're building these as linux boxes, it's more than enough space, almost no power consumption, and the machine goes from off to the Ubuntu desktop in about 8 seconds (less if you use QuickBoot in the BIOS).

they are running windows 7 for end user ease of use. literally just plug them in and click and icon on the desktop and you are mining without messing with any command lines. Like Apple products, my machines are high quality and "just work".
sr. member
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yung lean
30GB SSD is a waste of money.... a cheapo 40$ Free shipping 500GB HDD will do great

What is the speed gain on bootup, anyway? from 20 to 18 secs?

1KW on the single GPU system is a waste

Yep, and you could drive 2x 5970 mildly overclocked safely with a good 850W. Dunno about 6990 though...

How is this only a 30% markup?

My guess is:

6990 retail: $699
Dual GPU: $2698
Single GPU: $2798

diff = $900, which is ~28.5% above $699... so putting it clearly, 30% markup on top of retail.

Just my 2 bitcents

I'm selling quality machines. The SSD improves boot times over an HDD and has no moving parts to fail, reducing the likelihood of downtime. The power supply is high efficiency and leaves enough headroom for the user to overclock to their hearts desire. The machines actually produce a little over the 600mhash and 1.2 ghash advertised stock but i figured it would be better to round down then round up.
legendary
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I'd actually recommend a 16 gig SSD (Kingston).  I've put them in my mining rigs, they're only $50 (no tax/shipping) on Amazon.  Assuming you're building these as linux boxes, it's more than enough space, almost no power consumption, and the machine goes from off to the Ubuntu desktop in about 8 seconds (less if you use QuickBoot in the BIOS).
legendary
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30GB SSD is a waste of money.... a cheapo 40$ Free shipping 500GB HDD will do great

What is the speed gain on bootup, anyway? from 20 to 18 secs?

1KW on the single GPU system is a waste

Yep, and you could drive 2x 5970 mildly overclocked safely with a good 850W. Dunno about 6990 though...

How is this only a 30% markup?

My guess is:

6990 retail: $699
Dual GPU: $2698
Single GPU: $2798

diff = $900, which is ~28.5% above $699... so putting it clearly, 30% markup on top of retail.

Just my 2 bitcents
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30GB SSD is a waste of money.... a cheapo 40$ Free shipping 500GB HDD will do great

1KW on the single GPU system is a waste

How is this only a 30% markup?
sr. member
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yung lean
ok, more detailed specs are up. I assumed all most people would care about is the hash rate but that's clearly not the case. Sorry for any confusion.

Would anyone be interested in lower end mining machines? If there's an interest we may expand the product line.
sr. member
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yung lean
working on detailed system specs now. should be updated in a bit.
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?

I'm saying I may be even ready to do it as well (ie: I build it, take a fee, and ship it ready to be used)

but a 130% markup, or 1000$ for the lowest end model is huge... if you factor in the case, its still an 850$ mark up and still over 110% more (ie: more than double the price)

I assure you our systems cost more then that to build. our markup is closer to 30%, WELL below normal retail markup of 80-120%

in that case, show the system specs....

do realize that if you are selling computer that are meant for mining, and mining only (ie: no gaming) the best bang/buck are sempron+mobo combo at 80$. And no need of 1+TB HDDs etc. Else, advertise the as multi-functional rigs that do bitcoins as well (which is basically a gaming PC, which attracts a lot of market).

Also, doesn't a 6990 do more like 650Mh/s? and 2x = 1.3Gh/s?


Come on people! A merchant comes with an offer, you do not like the price you do not buy it. Better yet, offer a competing service which is better and cheaper. But attacking and badmouthing him over his price is just wrong.

You really think his prices are such a rip off  - go create a separate price comparison thread and help consumers to be better informed.


It isn't that I don't like his prices, I could care less, it is the advertising saying they are the lowest priced for comparable setups.
sr. member
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yung lean
Seriously people, how is my service any different then bitcoin rigs except that its cheaper because I offer free shipping? Why is everyone hell bent on sinking my ship before it sets sail instead of offering constructive advice to a member of the community?
And the plan is to accept bitcoins as payment as well. we should roll that out in a few days if this hostility doesn't kill the service first.
I would recommend listing full specs of those rigs.

thank you for the advice sir. I will get right on that.
sr. member
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yung lean
LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?

I'm saying I may be even ready to do it as well (ie: I build it, take a fee, and ship it ready to be used)

but a 130% markup, or 1000$ for the lowest end model is huge... if you factor in the case, its still an 850$ mark up and still over 110% more (ie: more than double the price)

I assure you our systems cost more then that to build. our markup is closer to 30%, WELL below normal retail markup of 80-120%
hero member
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Seriously people, how is my service any different then bitcoin rigs except that its cheaper because I offer free shipping? Why is everyone hell bent on sinking my ship before it sets sail instead of offering constructive advice to a member of the community?
And the plan is to accept bitcoins as payment as well. we should roll that out in a few days if this hostility doesn't kill the service first.
I would recommend listing full specs of those rigs.
sr. member
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yung lean
Seriously people, how is my service any different then bitcoin rigs except that its cheaper because I offer free shipping? Why is everyone hell bent on sinking my ship before it sets sail instead of offering constructive advice to a member of the community?

And the plan is to accept bitcoins as payment as well. we should roll that out in a few days if this hostility doesn't kill the service first.
hero member
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?
It does, thank you.

Presentation is key when marketing something - if you appear less than honest it adversely affects the image of the product or service you're selling. It really pays to know your market and be aware of your competitors' offerings, but equally appearing to trash your competitors is less than ideal. Let your pricing and goods/services speak for themselves.
full member
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?

I'm saying I may be even ready to do it as well (ie: I build it, take a fee, and ship it ready to be used)

but a 130% markup, or 1000$ for the lowest end model is huge... if you factor in the case, its still an 850$ mark up and still over 110% more (ie: more than double the price)
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
yung lean
LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?
legendary
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Specs other than GPU would certainly help justify the price.  The base system seems far too highly marked up.  The price increase between the single system and the dual system is a bit more reasonable ($900 higher than base system for a $720 GPU and a bigger power supply (1200 watt?)).

But $1,800 for 600 mHash/sec?  I just built a 740 mHash/sec rig for only $900!
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go to ibuypower.com for example... choose the custom parts and you will see that it is probably less expensive. Any other similar sites should show less expensive parts.

Hell, I could do it much cheaper to ANYONE. I would even consider accepting bitcoins

I could do a 1x 6990 for 1200$ (or 1x5970 for 900$) and a 2x 6990 for 1985$ (or 2x 5970 for 1410$)

Yes, this includes a CoolerMaster HAF X. Shave off 150$ to get a lower end case

That means 750$ for a 600 Mh/s (I'll OC it to reach 625~660Mh/s)
hero member
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you can mine bitcoins on a $300 walmart special computer if you wanted to but you wouldnt get much out of it. Find a system for sale that has the performance of my systems for cheaper.
Fine. Then say that. Don't say...
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We sell everything you need to get started mining Bitcoins at the lowest price on the market
...because it clearly isn't true.
hero member
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We sell everything you need to get started mining Bitcoins at the lowest price on the market. Free shipping within the continental United States.
Why there is no description of rig's internals ? No data on MB, CPU, etc...

And it looks insanely expensive. Why would anyone use such case ?
Miner's profit is better when rig is as cheap as possible.
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