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profitofthegods

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Quote from: thy on August 07, 2014, 10:56:22 AM

Quote from: jayc89 on August 02, 2014, 07:26:39 AM

Stock. There are plenty of securities which are generating a steady revenue. TRADER, DEBT, BIF (all currently on CryptoStocks).

On CryptoStocks you also have DEBTBOND1, DEBTBOND2 and MSP from the same person thats behind TRADER and DEBT. MSP for example has returned 109.26% in 110 days for those that invested in it from the start.

Maybe I should keep up with my investments on Cryptostocks more, I hadn't realized MSP had done so well - I bought some of that.

I wish they would make it easier to check back on what price you bought at and what returns you've got - I only put a small amount of coins on each of a few things there, and its just too much effort for it to be worth my time bothering to really keep track of things on small amounts like that if I have to do it all myself with spreadsheets.

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You can try the lending section in this forum, just require collateral for loans, and use escrow or ask the user to send the collateral first

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Quote from: jayc89 on August 02, 2014, 07:26:39 AM

Stock. There are plenty of securities which are generating a steady revenue. TRADER, DEBT, BIF (all currently on CryptoStocks).

On CryptoStocks you also have DEBTBOND1, DEBTBOND2 and MSP from the same person thats behind TRADER and DEBT. MSP for example has returned 109.26% in 110 days for those that invested in it from the start.

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you can play directly with btc, but is very stagnant right now, otherwise alt coin can be ok if you know what you are doing

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Quote from: Salmon1989 on August 06, 2014, 06:48:20 AM

Quote from: polynesia on August 05, 2014, 11:43:38 AM

Quote from: playon on July 30, 2014, 03:58:33 AM

Try https://www.bitfinex.com/

There is a deposit section for investors (liquidity providers) who want to lend bitcoins/USD.

Do the Bitfinex fees apply to the liquidity providers also?

I want to know that as well.

https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/fees

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SWAPS
Charged on your existing swaps, paid by the liquidity provider 15.0% (of the swaps generated by active contracts)

What exactly does the above line mean?

Since I essentially plan to have a long position, I wouldn't mind generating a return (however small it may be) by providing liquidity.
But I do want to know if fees would eat into my returns.

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Quote from: polynesia on August 05, 2014, 11:43:38 AM

Quote from: playon on July 30, 2014, 03:58:33 AM

Try https://www.bitfinex.com/

There is a deposit section for investors (liquidity providers) who want to lend bitcoins/USD.

Do the Bitfinex fees apply to the liquidity providers also?

I want to know that as well.

https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/fees

Quote

SWAPS
Charged on your existing swaps, paid by the liquidity provider 15.0% (of the swaps generated by active contracts)

What exactly does the above line mean?

polynesia

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Quote from: playon on July 30, 2014, 03:58:33 AM

Try https://www.bitfinex.com/

There is a deposit section for investors (liquidity providers) who want to lend bitcoins/USD.

Do the Bitfinex fees apply to the liquidity providers also?

profitofthegods

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BTCJam is good, but make sure you put a small amount in lots of loans so you don't loose everything if someone defaults. Also be careful that you understand if the repayments are pegged to Bitstamp USD that means you could loose Bitcoin if the price of BTC goes up (but on the other side, you can make extra on top of the interest if the price goes down). There are also a couple of similar sites too.

There are loads of other good ways to invest Bitcoins - I have info on a couple of them in my signature Wink

. Trading can be good, but requires a lot of time and effort and some skill. You can put them on Bitfinex and allow people to borrow them for leveraged trading, although the demand is more for USD so you might not get much there. You can go to NXT secure asset exchange to invest in a lot of different projects with Bitcoin, or sites like bitcoinbourse or cryptostocks - but be careful because there are a lot of scams so make sure you research well and are prepared to take some losses along the way.

Good luck!

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Quote from: Zebra on August 02, 2014, 03:46:19 PM

1. As you say, you can run away at any time.

Thats right. I don't know how people can trust me.

Quote from: Zebra on August 02, 2014, 03:46:19 PM

2. The bitcoin price can change dramatically in a few years.

Its the basis of investment using Bitcoin. If one believes in price fluctuations, holding bitcoins is more economical. Investments should report profit as percentage of bitcoin earned. BTC/USD is out of question here.

Quote from: Zebra on August 02, 2014, 03:46:19 PM

3. The forex exchange rate can change dramatically.

This is also true. The IRR has been stable for a year, but there is always the possibility of price change.

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invest in you your personal banking or bitstampt , there more secure . slowly but oke to take a secure your money . without manipulation like website got hack . bla bla bla
there a lot of fraud

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Quote from: ed_teech on August 02, 2014, 04:28:37 AM

I am considering running a business to address Bitcoin investing. The whole idea is banks in different countries give out different interest rates. The country I live in (Iran) does have very high bank profits (result of inflation and high interest loans given). The standard banking profit is %10 a year, and can go up to %20 if the duration is more (5 years for example).

Bitcoin provides a good way to transfer money to Iran, as no international bank can handle low cost transactions here. If the added exchange rates of BTC/USD and USD/RLS are added I think it still may be profitable.

The main issue here is trust, as I know I couldn't have the trust of anybody here right now. If that can be handled, it is a sure investment, because the bank is building the profit not me Grin

Any ideas ?

Are you saying that your business will take btc, trade it for Iran local dollars, deposit the money in Iran local banks to get a high interest rate?
If that is the case, I see 3 big problems.
1. As you say, you can run away at any time.
2. The bitcoin price can change dramatically in a few years.
3. The forex exchange rate can change dramatically.

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Quote from: Victoo on August 02, 2014, 01:26:28 AM

Even if you don't invest anywhere else, you are already invested in bitcoins.....

This is true. If your daily income is in a fiat currency, then you have already made your investment by buying BTc.
Presumably you have bought Bitcoin for a mixture of reasons
1) To pay for stuff with
2) To profit on through price increase
3) Because you think it's ideologically cool.

That's fair enough, but BTc is the investment, not the investment currency. Fiat is the currency, BTc is the commodity you buy with it. It may be a commodity which has financial applications, but it is the investment/speculation in itself.
There is a parallel with gold here. People buy gold with fiat because they want their "wealth" to be diversified out of paper. They don't then get their ingot or Double Eagle or whatever and think, right, what can I do with this?
The vast majority of "investments" offered for Bitcoin are scams designed to appeal to the naivety and greed of holders who think they should be doing something more than just holding their Bitcoin.
Nobody actually needs Bitcoin, unless they want to buy something which is only available or preferentially denominated in it and, apart from SR dr*gs, not many things fit that bill.
Fiat interest rates in most of the world are very low, so why should Bitcoin magically be able to return 1%+ per day?

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Stock. There are plenty of securities which are generating a steady revenue. TRADER, DEBT, BIF (all currently on CryptoStocks).

ed_teech

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Jahaha

I am considering running a business to address Bitcoin investing. The whole idea is banks in different countries give out different interest rates. The country I live in (Iran) does have very high bank profits (result of inflation and high interest loans given). The standard banking profit is %10 a year, and can go up to %20 if the duration is more (5 years for example).

Bitcoin provides a good way to transfer money to Iran, as no international bank can handle low cost transactions here. If the added exchange rates of BTC/USD and USD/RLS are added I think it still may be profitable.

The main issue here is trust, as I know I couldn't have the trust of anybody here right now. If that can be handled, it is a sure investment, because the bank is building the profit not me Grin

Any ideas ?

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Even if you don't invest anywhere else, you are already invested in bitcoins. You can sleep on it and sell it when it doubles.

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Quote from: whiteflight31 on July 17, 2014, 03:16:09 PM

I would just trade BTC for USD and not investing, but it is only my opinion.

if he make a trade without knowing the existing foundation he not gain even greater loss, as my playing time early trade.

and the better he ber investments like many gambling sites are now providing services invest

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Quote from: FlutterPie on July 10, 2014, 10:32:38 PM

I have some bitcoins I am not using right now, and I was wondering if I can invest them to make a little extra money. I heard of a site called btcjam.com not sure if this is the site I should use though? Does anyone suggest this site, or even another one that I can invest bitcoins to make a % back?

I advice you to buy GHS could invest in one of the sites like eobot or cex.io and it and it will generate a little extra coin: D

you also can also its GHS to btc again at any time if you need

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You could invest in gambling sites but the site may close at any time, and so you should only invest it highly trusted sites.
You could lend it out to others but the borrowers may run away at any time, and so you should ask for collateral.

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Invest in reddcoin. Its going places.

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Try https://www.bitfinex.com/

There is a deposit section for investors (liquidity providers) who want to lend bitcoins/USD.

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