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Quote from: countryfree on October 19, 2015, 06:19:02 PM

Quote from: Raimonn on October 19, 2015, 06:02:14 PM

I think you can't buy stocks from regulated markets with bitcoins. With dollars you need to register on a trader or investing bank, how do you do it with bitcoins?

In some countries, you may form a trust or a company. In some other places, the broker may hide your identity, and all your investments will be done under his name. It's getting more and more difficult though, with the ever growing AML and KYC regulations.

Maybe you can manage to find a broker to accept your bitcoin to buy stocks. Maybe you manage to find a good deal and win on the stocks let's say 5% in a longer period of time. Maybe the broker is not charging you any fees for the transaction.
But how you can be sure that for that longer period of time the exchange rate of bitcoin won't change opposite you? If it only rises 5% only you won't win anything as soon as you buy bitcoins again for your money.
Maybe if you want to do daytrade you don't need to count with the BTC exchange rate, I don't know if it's so volatile in a day too

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for now I do not trust the site to invest bitcoin, I have some experience investing bitcoin, I very much miss bitcoin, hopefully there is a trustworthy site for bitcoin invest in the future

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Quote from: Raimonn on October 19, 2015, 06:02:14 PM

I think you can't buy stocks from regulated markets with bitcoins. With dollars you need to register on a trader or investing bank, how do you do it with bitcoins?

In some countries, you may form a trust or a company. In some other places, the broker may hide your identity, and all your investments will be done under his name. It's getting more and more difficult though, with the ever growing AML and KYC regulations.

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I think you can't buy stocks from regulated markets with bitcoins. With dollars you need to register on a trader or investing bank, how do you do it with bitcoins?

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Quote from: Borisz on October 19, 2015, 12:37:10 PM

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Quote from: Borisz on October 17, 2015, 11:39:43 AM

Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

I`m not a big fan of trading either.

I have a friend who trade stocks in day trading on the exchange not bitcoin. But he lost $30,000 but now doing it succesfuly making $80,000 now.

I dont think I can handle the emotion.

Well, I cannot and would not move around that kind of sums on a regular basis. Too much pressure.

It's OK if you start with smaller amount and you continue to increase the limit to reach to that amount. After some time it will be as natural as you pay for your coffee in the cafe every morning

Never mind, only kidding, but to start to trade with that amount without practice is a kind of suicide thing, for sure

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Quote from: mrhelpful on October 18, 2015, 11:07:12 PM

Quote from: Borisz on October 17, 2015, 11:39:43 AM

Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

I`m not a big fan of trading either.

I have a friend who trade stocks in day trading on the exchange not bitcoin. But he lost $30,000 but now doing it succesfuly making $80,000 now.

I dont think I can handle the emotion.

Well, I cannot and would not move around that kind of sums on a regular basis. Too much pressure.

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Quote from: snoweye on October 12, 2015, 09:51:35 AM

Hi everyone,
I will like to know if there us a legit websites one can use bitcoin in purchasing stocks or bonds online?

Thanks.
Richard.

I am wary of purchasing stocks or bonds using bitcoins. I do not know of any legit site that offers this.

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Quote from: Borisz on October 17, 2015, 11:39:43 AM

Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

I`m not a big fan of trading either.

I have a friend who trade stocks in day trading on the exchange not bitcoin. But he lost $30,000 but now doing it succesfuly making $80,000 now.

I dont think I can handle the emotion.

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Quote from: Lay-z on October 16, 2015, 04:46:40 PM

Try 1broker.com like others suggest. I am a member for the past few months and only once I faced an issue when my order was executed at wrong price. Support responded in timely manner and corrected it on the same day.

I never heard of that site before, but if most have already then id assume its safe?

Anyways, I suggest people who have bitcoin to cash out then invest the tradtional stock exchange instead, but this is my view.

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Quote from: Borisz on October 17, 2015, 11:39:43 AM

Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

Thanks for the URL. I have been looking for investment into stocks with bitcoin payments. But I guess I need to submit my age proof and other identifications documents along with my account opening. I have been looking for an anonymous buying of stocks with bitcoin.

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Quote from: yayayo on October 16, 2015, 02:33:28 PM

Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

2. it's overly complicated and expensive to go fiat -> Bitcoin -> stocks, when you can instead go fiat -> stocks

I presumed that you want to invest in "ordinary stocks" at the general markets (NYSE, Nasdaq...). In case you want to invest in Bitcoin stocks traded at havelock, cryptostocks, mpex and the like, you should be aware that a large percentage of these so-called "stocks" are in fact unregulated junk bonds with an insanely high probability of scam, because many of these "companies" don't even have a valid address.

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here we are referring to website like 1broker when you can invest in stocks/forex via cfd, not real stocks/forex, so the passages is only bitcoin-> your desired investment-> cash out in bitcoin, there is no fiat involved

and when someone want to invest in bitcoin, is obviously to have more bitcoin, aside from the intrinsic investment element that bitcoin already offer, like speculating...

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Well, not big of a trading, not sure how you would like it, but you can have a go and look at cryptostocks.com

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uhh thers this app called robinhood i think with 0 commision stock trading, although they dont accept bitcoin. you can sell your btc for money in the bank then use that to fund your account

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Quote from: jaysabi on October 17, 2015, 10:35:36 AM

Quote from: yayayo on October 16, 2015, 02:33:28 PM

Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

This is not true at all. If you're buying bitcoin as an "investment" you're only speculating; basically gambling. Investing and gambling are not the same thing. When people go to the blackjack tables, they don't say they're "investing" (actually, some of them do, but they're delusional gambling addicts who can't admit they have a problem). Bitcoin is speculation and not an investment because bitcoin doesn't generate income or profit. Investing in actual companies gives you an ownership stake in the company and a share of the profits. Bitcoin doesn't, it just appreciates or depreciates based on supply/demand and inflation. (If bitcoin is appreciating in value only due to fiat's inflation causing the value of the dollar to drop, then you haven't "made" any money, you only kept what you had before inflation.) Therefore, investing in real companies is a better investment than bitcoin because there are actual profits underlying the business. To the extent you earn higher returns with bitcoin during any period of time, you're just lucky your gamble paid off, it's still not an "investment."

That is to say, you can absolutely earn higher returns gambling than investing. But that still doesn't make gambling a good idea. Be aware of the risks of gambling vs. investing. Many investments aren't even a sound idea, and no investment is guaranteed to make money. Gambling is one step further down than that on the spectrum uncertainty.

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Quote from: yayayo on October 16, 2015, 02:33:28 PM

Investing in stocks using Bitcoin makes no sense, because:

1. Bitcoin is likely to be a better investment

This is not true at all. If you're buying bitcoin as an "investment" you're only speculating; basically gambling. Investing and gambling are not the same thing. When people go to the blackjack tables, they don't say they're "investing" (actually, some of them do, but they're delusional gambling addicts who can't admit they have a problem). Bitcoin is speculation and not an investment because bitcoin doesn't generate income or profit. Investing in actual companies gives you an ownership stake in the company and a share of the profits. Bitcoin doesn't, it just appreciates or depreciates based on supply/demand and inflation. (If bitcoin is appreciating in value only due to fiat's inflation causing the value of the dollar to drop, then you haven't "made" any money, you only kept what you had before inflation.) Therefore, investing in real companies is a better investment than bitcoin because there are actual profits underlying the business. To the extent you earn higher returns with bitcoin during any period of time, you're just lucky your gamble paid off, it's still not an "investment."

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Seems like there is not a clearly reliable way to do this.

Too bad. However it is always possible to exchange for fiat then buy bonds or stocks...

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Well, there's one reliable company

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Quote from: yayayo on October 16, 2015, 02:33:28 PM

I presumed that you want to invest in "ordinary stocks" at the general markets (NYSE, Nasdaq...). In case you want to invest in Bitcoin stocks traded at havelock, cryptostocks, mpex and the like, you should be aware that a large percentage of these so-called "stocks" are in fact unregulated junk bonds with an insanely high probability of scam, because many of these "companies" don't even have a valid address.

So much this. There are already fake stocks on the actual stock market - but Bitcoin is an unregulated space - giving money over for promised returns without actually knowing the people behind it (i.e. accountability) is literally a decision to toss your Bitcoin away. If people really needed funding and they had a viable project they wouldn't have a lot of difficult in securing decent funding (i.e. venture capital).

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