Topic: invest what you can loss. (Read 219 times)

Exactly my mindset. I already acknowledged the risks on whatever amount that I have committed to lose and I just treat them as “dead money”. Whether if it’s for trading (spot, futures, etc.), buying BTC and altcoins, adding/farming LPs, NFTs, spending gas for retroactive drops and more, my mindset is already like that.

The reality is that if you want to avoid risks, better not invest in crypto, NFTs, etc. No promises or astronomical guaranteed returns is what we are in right now because of the unpredictable market volatility. It’s just that we should learn how to manage it, starting off with an amount that we can afford to lose and do not go all-in.

I disagree with this statement, because if I take bitcoin seriously, I believe in it, then I will invest in it for a lot more than a couple of hundred or thousand dollars. After all, if you can realistically assess the potential of bitcoin, then you will agree that it is unlikely that it will be able to grow by 200k or higher in this bullish cycle, which means that an investment in bitcoin can give you x3-x4 if you do everything right, and what in this case, will your investment bring you if you buy bitcoin  $2000?

This is also not a bad profit, it is not something that can create capital for you. Of course, there is a risk of losing the money invested, risks exist in many investments, but only by taking risks can we achieve truly significant profits.

No one wants to lose anything. People know about the risks of investing in crypto yet they do not fear to do it because the reward ratio is so high that no other investment can match it. Everybody wants to be rich in their early life so that they don't need to work in their old age. And if you are risking something then early life is the best time don't you think? If you break you will have more time to rebuild which you will not get at old age.

Every investment has a level of risk and taking risk is in human nature. It doesn't mean you will throw away your money into anything. Take risks with knowledge.

I don't really consider Bitcoin as an investment per se, for me it's a store of value.

Bitcoin has a volatility and it will make the price can go down or up every second, but I have converted all of my money into Bitcoin because it's the most safest asset or currency. I view Bitcoin is same like most of people view fiat is safe since it's regulated and assured, but I can trust Bitcoin without the regulation and assurance aspects.

Whenever I need fiat to pay something, I can easily convert my Bitcoin to fiat.

All businesses have risks that every investor must take. The recognition of this risk will determine how much you are willing to put into the business. Some people are so carried away by the projected profit that they fail to do a risk management analysis to ascertain their investment limits. I have seen people take loans or credits to invest in some businesses because of greed. Some are lucky to make profit while others have themselves to blame.

Kudos @franky1, I think this is the perfect term to use because nobody is planning to lose. We should invest the amount that will not make us suffer lack and want even if we lose. Some people invest with all they have and when they lose they can not feed,  pay rent, and take care of other expenses. Most people fall sick or even commit suicide because the exceeded their investment capacity. I want to add that we should invest not only what we can afford but we can endure in the case of loss.

I don’t check your post history, but if truly you are reminding people about this, then you are trying because investing what you can afford to lose is what will make you leave your investments for a long period of time until you get your money back in return with profits as targeted, not only in the crypto space but in any other thing that you will do as far as its business and its focus is on market price. You need to take precaution and invest the amount you can afford to lose to avoid unnecessary stories at the end of the day.



Some people do this because they are greedy to get plenty of return from their investment, which is not appropriate, and those who were told to invest the amount they could afford to lose but it didn't work with what they were told will have themselves to blame at the end if the market doesn’t work for them as expected.

However, selling what you have already invested can be done if you have a financial problem and don’t have any other way to get money to solve it, which I believe even people who have spent years in bitcoin investment do. But if someone sells his or her investment because the price is dropping, I believe that will be the worst mistake they will make in their crypto investment journey.



Which will also reduce the losses in their investment because most people are aware of the investment but don’t know about the risk involved, which is why once they see the price is dumping, they start panicking and sell their investment without getting their money back in return. So it’s good that when you tell people about the positive side of bitcoin, they should also be aware of the negative side of it.

I liked the phrase that the OP is tired of repeating a million times... OP, are you really new to this platform?
In this case, you understand that by creating a similar topic, you did not discover anything new but only allowed people to repeat what they write almost daily.
But no, I read your posts and didn't find even half of your warnings.
But seriously, you are too enchanted with Bitcoin. If you do not have free funds, and in more than a good amount, it is in vain to expect that it will change your life.


How is this topic different from today's?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/think-before-investing-5462582



OP, stop fantasizing.

I would probably be on a private island right now, sipping something refreshing and taking in the sunset if I had a Bitcoin for each time someone advised me to "only invest what you can lose." But its not that easy in life! Going big or going home is sometimes the only option.

Imagine if the forefathers of our country had taken the safe route and only "invested what they could afford to lose". Most likely, we'd be drinking tea and speaking with British accents. A small investment and leap of faith could ultimately bring about the change we need. Life itself is a little bit of a gamble, after all.

And from there one should realize that it is better to do some preparation and planning first before starting their investment, not just in crypto but I say this in anything. But in fact there are still many people who are too hasty, when in fact, they are not fully prepared in the planning that they do, or even they invest without doing any preparation, especially I see that still often done by beginners.

The market will always move, and it can't always be what we want it to be. We always want to see the market go up, and that's an impossible thing to see. In investing we will always be faced with a risk, and that risk must be taken and we must prepare for it before actually entering the market. We can't just move around in this space, meaning that our movements must always be organized.

What's on my mind right now is that people who mourn their losses through investing in BTC and other crypto to you are Newbies, because I don't think those who are experienced in investing will lament you by sobbing. Indeed, what you say is not wrong because everyone who wants to invest clearly has to be in accordance with their respective abilities and it will be proven when they are able to survive when they experience losses.

Apart from that, it's good if you want to give advice to everyone about investing, try to provide a little education about the risks that are in every investment now. Because there are some people who are very passionate about investing in BTC and other crypto, they themselves don't even know about the risks involved in investing so they will always make people around them lament when they experience losses. So besides having to understand and learn the advice from other people, it's a good idea for them to also understand any risks that can arise through investment.

Don't expect people to listen on your advice since you don't have any credentials for people to believe immediately on what statement you are saying. But I kinda agree with since we should never invest the amount we can't afford to lose since we cannot decide properly with it and might we do stressful spending on our investment and cannot react when critical situation happen since we always got afraid to lose our money if the movement we see is not in favor to us or we didn't expect to happen.

This applies everywhere without exception, not only when talking about bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, because what we do requires the ability to be responsible before making a decision. The concept of life that we live at a certain level will be much more directed and developed if someone can be responsible for all the efforts that he does and because most people talk about the ability to improve financial levels, we often ignore that process. Don't jump to conclusions just because it can provide quick returns and there are times when we need to see the process before achieving that success.

When talking collectively, the bigger the risk you take the bigger the profit you will get. That's the real concept of economics? The problem is whether we can be responsible or not if we want to take every risk, the pattern is to increase knowledge that can minimize risk, not to find a comfort zone to make money.

I disagree with you. The word investment is deep and its dimensions are greater than Bitcoin. There are investments with low returns and close to zero risks here. You can invest, which is what some people do by putting their money in banks or buying treasury bonds or the debts of some countries with a high credit rating. Medium risk investments in Forex trading and in gold and medium risk investment all require the investor to take more risk.
High-risk investments such as Bitcoin must act wisely and then always invest only what you can lose, invest in a certain range and know that the profit consists of the moment of purchase and not when the decision to sell is made.

Altcoins, gambling, and staking are all not considered investments due to the difficulty of predicting the future in them, and you are closer to losing your money than achieving an expected profit.

That is the right attitude, if you look "normal" at it, and I think it is the most sensible one. But if you believe in bitcoin and have been in for many years, then there ist many more. Bitcoin should not bejust an ivestition, bitcoin is independence from our financial system. No bank will own your money, you own it yourself and can use it at any time. So it is not only investment, also freedom over your money. That is the reason bitcoin exists.

We repeat this like a mantra on this forum and to our family and friends... but nobody listen. The moment when they buy coins with money that they cannot afford, then they need that money and have to sell prematurely and that is when they occur losses.

You have to "time" the market to sell exactly at the right price to maximize your profits, if you are forced to sell before that time... then you have to expect that you are going to have losses or a very small profit.

The people who do this..... blame Bitcoin for their losses or small profits and they turn into haters.  

When it comes to investments, it's not only about bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. Since it is someone else's money, not your own, you cannot afford to lose the money, hence most firms started with borrowed money typically expand without confidence, if the business grows, and with the stress of not losing the capital.

The recommendations to "invest the amount you can afford to lose" and "do not take a loan to invest in bitcoin" are vital, and if adhered to properly, we won't experience troubles with feelings around bitcoin investment.

Also invest in what you understand, many individuals don't understand that not every cryptocurency will be successful in future like Bitcoin so they shouldn't be investing in everything they see and it's wrong to take loans or sell your properties to invest in Bitcoin other altcoins. Investing in Bitcoin should be done with only spare money but some individual still won't listen and they'll think they're smarter than others and go to use loans to invest.

Investing with the amount that you can afford to lose doesn't mean that when you invest, you'll lose it but it helps you in a situation when you don't get the results that you expected from the investment to stay calm and rethink on your next investment instead of panicking.

Well, if it wasn't for crypto most likely the would do the same in a casino or some obvious scam. It's not crypto's problem.

Crypto would be a better place if people don't take loans to buy shitcoins and after shoot themselves

It's interesting that people are always giving this advice to others, but I want to know how many people are doing this. Because I think everyone wants to get a high profit and to do that we need to invest a lot of money in it, maybe more than we can lose. But I know no one will admit it because no one wants to be embarrassed.

I am also investing more than I can afford to lose, and I still fear that investment will be lost. But I'm sure it won't crash me and I can start over if it really fails. For me, success requires risks and trade-offs.