Topic: Investigation of possible 2 cheater accounts: Ezravdb & Jeway (Read 971 times)

LOL.  Honestly, I'm not even understanding the blockchain connection evidence between the two accounts as presented in the OP.  It doesn't look as though those two accounts were using the same address to receive payments, right?  That's what usually is used to link accounts together (or something similar).

But we all know account farms exist, and it does look mighty suspicious to me that these two accounts seem to be following each other around.  I know bounty hunters tend to apply to numerous bounties, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are indeed alts.

That is odd, is it not?

I understand your concern about this possibility, but realize it or not there are some very basic differences that you can use as the reason why I say the 16 accounts above are cheaters not collectors. Here's the logic.



Explanation:

Bounty cheaters: After the cheaters get paid from the bounty, most of them will sell to the exchange for fear of losing the price. To erase the traces of transactions, they try to move all those tokens or coins to a new wallet before selling them on an exchange. For some scammers who know how to get rid of the trail, they might convert all the token proceeds sold to another altcoin before they accumulate it to the main wallet. But in this case, all the cheaters don't convert BNB to other altcoins and they just sell and accumulate it to the main wallet and this keeps traces of the transactions discoverable.

Collector: They buy from bounty hunters, and any tokens or coins they buy will not be immediately sold to the exchange because usually they will wait for a higher price. All of these tokens or coins are more likely to be in one wallet ^{[temporary wallet]} before waiting for the price to worth it. They will sell to the exchange in a single transaction, not every time they buy from a bounty hunter. The reason collectors buy tokens or coins from bounty hunters is to hold them for a certain period of time and they want to maximize the potential of altcoins, not sell them immediately after they buy.

After all, the reason you are worried has actually become a common reason for every cheater who is caught accumulating their assets to the main wallet, especially because they are caught bounty cheats with multiple accounts. Marking the above 16 accounts obviously for one reason, they are bounty hunters who cheat by joining multiple accounts on the same bounty.

You can also do further research on the 16 accounts above. But I'll bet that you won't find social media connections between accounts and wallet connections between accounts because they are experienced enough people to avoid mistakes. But unfortunately, they forget that accumulating assets to the main wallet without converting them into other altcoins can be accurate evidence to get them tagged as cheaters.

Maybe I can still make the mistake of marking the above 16 accounts as cheaters, and if that's true then I'm still willing to remove or revise the tag. But unfortunately not many people like to look for cheaters from high ranking accounts but it seems they are very good at getting cheater accounts from newbie who just abuse social media campaigns for a few cents.

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As you can see in the thread, not many people are willing to do their research and get solid evidence about the first two accounts until I actually flag them, but about newbies a lot of people do the opposite. After all, we can't just sharp to down, right? This is free work, so anyway this is part of the contribution too.

Just as it was said in that image, his first negative trust was kinda irrelevant as he had no other account in the campaign but at the moment he received that second negative trust, while he was inside of it, then he surely could not be kept.
As I previously mentioned in a few forum threads, we have someone only taking care of these cases (negative trust & edited posts) since we have had recently 2 guys breaking these rules inside the campaign so we were aware of that -2 of JeWay still on Sunday, which made things easier for us not to be paying him for one more week. Also I can't deny that Mahdirakib's message on Telegram got me surprised as I had no idea how big this issue could become.

Also, one more time, I want to thank you guys for still being around & helping us to keep not only our campaigns but specially the forum clean of such things.


And last but not least, my name is "Carollzinha", not "Carrollzinha" and I am "her", not "him" 

the red tag you provided seems overkill. all accounts do have the same transaction pattern. but that doesn't provide solid evidence for the red tag you provided.
I know the tags you provide are private from your own research. but in my view a neutral tag indicating the possibility the account is part of a farm would make more sense. as @igehhh said, there is another possibility for a transaction to occur.

after that, everyone can look for other evidence to substantiate the blockchain transactions that have been published. such as the use of social media or the same address.

Funny how English Patrol Scuad started the thread but it's _BlackStar who is asking all the questions...  

_BlackStar, I don't know how you linked all of the above accounts as cheates and stabbed every single one of their ass with a red pen, that's something awful to see in my opinion. Some of the accounts are from the local Indonesian community and this is really sad for me to watch.

I'm not against how you expose cheaters accounts, but tagging the 16 accounts above still requires clear evidence to avoid being off-target. Maybe you need to consider some reasons before tag them all because as one of the local Indonesian community, I am very sad to know that some of the above accounts are red tagged if it is not proven to be true. Give them a chance to explain the problem, so there's at least a pause before you stab ass all of them. This is my friendly request to you, while I appreciate your forum contribution. Thank you.

Will you decide the fate of 16 accounts for a transactions outside of the forum? Do you know that some bounty hunters buy from other bounty hunters after distribution? Are you also aware that some bounty managers also buy shitcoins from hunters? All of this occurs outside of the forum. Not saying same thing happened here but this COULD be the case in the accounts below, I believe that painting red is overkill! I expected to see a bunch of newbies farming, but this is different. You might also want to slowdown buddy, you've been painting a lot lately.

I will investigate this case further and provide feedback if I discover anything new.

Why do you think so, did you try to do more research from the above transactions? Now let's see what I found based on the available evidence here: https://bscscan.com/address/0x2df9a2f3298d505fa87678c8bc9016acd7a55f41

16 accounts connected: account wallet in bounty => new wallet => main wallet

Strategy: Join the same campaign, get paid, sell it to the exchange, and accumulate all BNB to the main wallet.




1. cvasy

2. Ten98

3. davincicode666

4. adiebitsler

5. Ezravdb

6. domoy77

7. BlackBaron

8. JeWay

9. marcous

10. Surrapatt

11. 2tang

12. fadil46

13. imamusma

14. whiteblue

15. alisonwonder

16. arifteguhr

I really believe that all the accounts I got based on the evidence above are linked to each other and join the same campaign ^{[quite a lot of campaigns].} This is the big of farmers accounts, so I think they all deserve a negative tag now.

Maybe JeWay dumped 50 merits on ‘Little Mouse’ post as he is the only one who hasn't left negative feedback on JeWay's account . Anyway, he (JeWay) was aware of this thread. But he never tried to defend himself. Carrollzinha has removed him from the signature campaign, we have lost one spammer from gambling discussion board .

The above evidence won't be enough to connect those accounts with each other. Perhaps, the user has used ‘new address’ as a middleman so that no one can link those accounts directly. I hope you guys will find some direct evidence of those accounts connection. I appreciate your efforts.

And it looks like we're going to do another big cleanup now that you've discovered this oddity. I will do a thorough check of all the addresses in the above transaction, for sure we will get more accounts connected now. Thank you for telling, Will update the list soon.

if traced from the blockchain transactions of the two accounts. both accounts may be part of a fairly high-ranking farm account.

I'm still not sure about the blockchain transaction proof I got. but maybe this could be another clue for another investigation from @JeWay account.

transactions that occur are seen with almost the same pattern and time. all of them send using the new wallet before sending them to the main wallet.
account wallet => new wallet => main wallet

Proof: https://bscscan.com/address/0x2df9a2f3298d505fa87678c8bc9016acd7a55f41