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legendary
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March 03, 2017, 01:30:22 AM
Every investment comes with some degree of a risk, so I personally took as a rule for myself to never invest more than I can afford to lose. It's nice to have a passive income, but if you have invested a significant portion of your saving, than potential damage from losing your investment due to various reasons (exit scams, hacks, bitcoin crash etc.) would outweigh any potential gains. There nothing that can guarantee you safety for sure, even sites with long history can turn into scam in some day.
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 08:27:05 PM
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investing money in casino sight is good but still it is too much risky and specially if you do not know about the casino, because here are so much scam casino sights where they are just collecting money form the people and then disappear. therefore you need to have good study about the gambling site and only then you can invest money there.

It's risky if you are lack of experience and the risk taking ability. But believe me just do invest into reliable and reputable casino's. Many are making good interest from them monthly depending on how much you will invest with them. And the advantage will always on you because the we know that gamblers will always lose in the long run and the house will benefit.
This days when information is very open is very transparent, I don't think there are still people who will fall victim to invest in shady casinos. By using this forum you can already get important tips and information as a basis of your investing, and since casinos are increasing fast, you have more options where to invest and you can diversify your investments.

Of course there are still people that can possibly be a victim of those shady casino's. Don't think that all of the people has experience in investing there and knows that there are shady ones. There would be newcomers that will always be ignorant about this matters and it will be a negligence of that newbie if he didn't do some research before investing.
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 05:26:06 PM
It's better to invest in website which is most trustful and with huge traffic but there is only one problem. There doesn't exist fair casino investment, I don't say that they will lie you but there is possibility to manually play and lost some money in order to don't pay profit to investors. On another side everything is fine but if you have huge amount of money to invest in casinos, it's better to build new one for you with perfect team of developers.

True, by investing in a web site that consistently is the best and it will definitely give you an advantage for us. Because sites that have consistently good is a site that does really sites engaged in the investment and not a scam. But it would be better to keep a distance to the site of the investment have not even 1 year old, because sometimes there are a few sites fastening consistently but after getting very large funds finally they scam
hero member
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March 02, 2017, 03:55:30 PM
It's better to invest in website which is most trustful and with huge traffic but there is only one problem. There doesn't exist fair casino investment, I don't say that they will lie you but there is possibility to manually play and lost some money in order to don't pay profit to investors. On another side everything is fine but if you have huge amount of money to invest in casinos, it's better to build new one for you with perfect team of developers.
Creating a new bitcoin casino is not easy at all there are many established casinos already, there is a lot of competition and the market although it grows every single day is limited so I cannot blame those that you just want to invest their money and get some earnings instead of creating their own casinos.
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 12:47:16 PM
ahh fair enough , i just get it now lol . it is indeed a transparency needed , but how can a casino owner make it more transparent?[1] as there stated already about how much a casino profit isn't it?[2] i don't think there is a way to make it more transparent .

so you have to choose a casino that you really know well about the casino owner, and fully trust on them, interesting opinion from NLnico there btw[3].
[1]That's still questionable until now
[2]Yes, it is about how to prove real casino's profit.
[3]Yes, his explanation always great as always, but from his explanation, we must trust the auditor, not with site owner (Although you have long been acquainted with the owner). I think it's fair enough.
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Yeh, my idea was only "fair by audit" and not "provably fair" (so it only works if investors trust that the auditor is not colluding with the site owner.)
NLNico has that idea since 2014 , and so far there is no solution to make casino bankroll investment totally fair. there always pros and cons also advantage & disadvantage to take his idea to audit the casino profit , really a tough problem to solve .

so i can say that right now a casino owner could make a false profit calculation , nothing we can do to verify it right?
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
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investing money in casino sight is good but still it is too much risky and specially if you do not know about the casino, because here are so much scam casino sights where they are just collecting money form the people and then disappear. therefore you need to have good study about the gambling site and only then you can invest money there.

It's risky if you are lack of experience and the risk taking ability. But believe me just do invest into reliable and reputable casino's. Many are making good interest from them monthly depending on how much you will invest with them. And the advantage will always on you because the we know that gamblers will always lose in the long run and the house will benefit.
This days when information is very open is very transparent, I don't think there are still people who will fall victim to invest in shady casinos. By using this forum you can already get important tips and information as a basis of your investing, and since casinos are increasing fast, you have more options where to invest and you can diversify your investments.
hero member
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March 01, 2017, 10:03:32 PM
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investing money in casino sight is good but still it is too much risky and specially if you do not know about the casino, because here are so much scam casino sights where they are just collecting money form the people and then disappear. therefore you need to have good study about the gambling site and only then you can invest money there.

It's risky if you are lack of experience and the risk taking ability. But believe me just do invest into reliable and reputable casino's. Many are making good interest from them monthly depending on how much you will invest with them. And the advantage will always on you because the we know that gamblers will always lose in the long run and the house will benefit.
hero member
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March 01, 2017, 03:31:33 PM
It's better to invest in website which is most trustful and with huge traffic but there is only one problem. There doesn't exist fair casino investment, I don't say that they will lie you but there is possibility to manually play and lost some money in order to don't pay profit to investors. On another side everything is fine but if you have huge amount of money to invest in casinos, it's better to build new one for you with perfect team of developers.
hero member
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March 01, 2017, 02:38:37 PM
it's not good to put all eggs into one basket. Because you need to maximize your bitcoins to get good profit from it. And if you are going to look on that way of investing you should relay on some experts on this type of investment like the thread that I gave. The higher amount you'll invest, the higher return will possible get back on you.
If you are going to put all your investment in one place so you will remain restricted and there will be more chance to lose most of your by investing your all money in one place.

But if you are going to  invest  your  money in different places so if your one investment goes there are more chance that your other investment will increase. So, it will be good decision to invest your money in different places.

Yes that's why I'm saying that putting all of your investments into one place is not going to be a good thing. We really need to maximize our time and investment when it comes to this matters. Because if you will into the same very places you are not going to be profitable with it and you can have more chance of losing of your capital.
If you have a small amount of money, you should only invest in one place. Analyzing will help you a lot in choosing the best place to put your money in. There are hundreds of casinos and I still can recognize that bitsler and crypto-games are one of the best in the gambling field. However, only Crypto-games accepts players to invest their money while Bitsler seems do not like this idea much

That's another case, having small amount of bitcoins and wanting to maximize it for investing with various casino's. Then that's a very hard thing to do, you can simply invest it on a specific legit and trusted casino. Bitsler and crypto-games are legit and good casino's to invest but there are also new aspiring ones like kingdice.

When one got a small amount than should start first with anyone trusted the site and slowly start investing profits on another site as well. But keeping all your money in any one site is not a good investment strategy. Becuase any time one can win big amount then all your profits may suddenly drain up. So you can start with one site but as soon as possible you start diversifying your funds.

Just like what we have discussed earlier, if you do have small amount it's fine to put on a single site. And to make those newbie investors pursue their investment with casino's it's better to follow some thread of experts on this type of investment. I do believe that not all newbies will start in small amount there are some that can invest on higher amount.
investing money in casino sight is good but still it is too much risky and specially if you do not know about the casino, because here are so much scam casino sights where they are just collecting money form the people and then disappear. therefore you need to have good study about the gambling site and only then you can invest money there.
hero member
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March 01, 2017, 11:42:42 AM
Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a topic but I really want some answers and it's connected to gambling in a way. I'm thinking about picking a casino and investing in it, so that I can have some small income every month (if everything goes okay). What I wanted to ask is if that is possible to see the information about casinos' income per day or month for now or is it private information nobod really gives that easily? And do you think investing in casino is a good idea, by the way? Thank you.

indeed invest casino can generate a decent income, but have a lot to choose and find information about the casino will be selected and the selection of casino licenses that are dicasino itself, if not choose carefully, it is a high risk will be obtained.

i am agree if we make invest in casino then in the long term we can make profit if we follow with the house. there are too many good reputable site that we could invest but they have different amount to invest so i think you need to determine how much you want to invest and remember don't invest the money that you don't prepare to loss if one day the site become to scam you.

You know recently i invest in some investment site, and they said they will give me double amount, with month and in one week they pay me and than stop to paying, its mean it is scam site, that's why i have no interest on it.
But i am agree on casino investment, because i never hear anything bad about gambling sites. These all are trust-able sites and mostly gambling sites are popular, So if we invest on casino sites than i think it is better than invest in investment sites.     
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 10:27:39 PM
Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a topic but I really want some answers and it's connected to gambling in a way. I'm thinking about picking a casino and investing in it, so that I can have some small income every month (if everything goes okay). What I wanted to ask is if that is possible to see the information about casinos' income per day or month for now or is it private information nobod really gives that easily? And do you think investing in casino is a good idea, by the way? Thank you.

indeed invest casino can generate a decent income, but have a lot to choose and find information about the casino will be selected and the selection of casino licenses that are dicasino itself, if not choose carefully, it is a high risk will be obtained.

i am agree if we make invest in casino then in the long term we can make profit if we follow with the house. there are too many good reputable site that we could invest but they have different amount to invest so i think you need to determine how much you want to invest and remember don't invest the money that you don't prepare to loss if one day the site become to scam you.

I also agree with you, no efforts are not in decline or loss, may not be scams, but suffered a loss or not sold
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 10:17:53 PM
Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a topic but I really want some answers and it's connected to gambling in a way. I'm thinking about picking a casino and investing in it, so that I can have some small income every month (if everything goes okay). What I wanted to ask is if that is possible to see the information about casinos' income per day or month for now or is it private information nobod really gives that easily? And do you think investing in casino is a good idea, by the way? Thank you.

indeed invest casino can generate a decent income, but have a lot to choose and find information about the casino will be selected and the selection of casino licenses that are dicasino itself, if not choose carefully, it is a high risk will be obtained.

i am agree if we make invest in casino then in the long term we can make profit if we follow with the house. there are too many good reputable site that we could invest but they have different amount to invest so i think you need to determine how much you want to invest and remember don't invest the money that you don't prepare to loss if one day the site become to scam you.
legendary
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February 28, 2017, 09:28:58 PM
ahh fair enough , i just get it now lol . it is indeed a transparency needed , but how can a casino owner make it more transparent?[1] as there stated already about how much a casino profit isn't it?[2] i don't think there is a way to make it more transparent .

so you have to choose a casino that you really know well about the casino owner, and fully trust on them, interesting opinion from NLnico there btw[3].
[1]That's still questionable until now
[2]Yes, it is about how to prove real casino's profit.
[3]Yes, his explanation always great as always, but from his explanation, we must trust the auditor, not with site owner (Although you have long been acquainted with the owner). I think it's fair enough.
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Yeh, my idea was only "fair by audit" and not "provably fair" (so it only works if investors trust that the auditor is not colluding with the site owner.)
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 09:24:03 PM
Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a topic but I really want some answers and it's connected to gambling in a way. I'm thinking about picking a casino and investing in it, so that I can have some small income every month (if everything goes okay). What I wanted to ask is if that is possible to see the information about casinos' income per day or month for now or is it private information nobod really gives that easily? And do you think investing in casino is a good idea, by the way? Thank you.

indeed invest casino can generate a decent income, but have a lot to choose and find information about the casino will be selected and the selection of casino licenses that are dicasino itself, if not choose carefully, it is a high risk will be obtained.
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 09:12:25 PM
it's not good to put all eggs into one basket. Because you need to maximize your bitcoins to get good profit from it. And if you are going to look on that way of investing you should relay on some experts on this type of investment like the thread that I gave. The higher amount you'll invest, the higher return will possible get back on you.
If you are going to put all your investment in one place so you will remain restricted and there will be more chance to lose most of your by investing your all money in one place.

But if you are going to  invest  your  money in different places so if your one investment goes there are more chance that your other investment will increase. So, it will be good decision to invest your money in different places.

Yes that's why I'm saying that putting all of your investments into one place is not going to be a good thing. We really need to maximize our time and investment when it comes to this matters. Because if you will into the same very places you are not going to be profitable with it and you can have more chance of losing of your capital.
If you have a small amount of money, you should only invest in one place. Analyzing will help you a lot in choosing the best place to put your money in. There are hundreds of casinos and I still can recognize that bitsler and crypto-games are one of the best in the gambling field. However, only Crypto-games accepts players to invest their money while Bitsler seems do not like this idea much

That's another case, having small amount of bitcoins and wanting to maximize it for investing with various casino's. Then that's a very hard thing to do, you can simply invest it on a specific legit and trusted casino. Bitsler and crypto-games are legit and good casino's to invest but there are also new aspiring ones like kingdice.
While diversifying where your money is invested is great if your capital is too low you run the risk of your small earnings being eaten by fees so it is better in that case to just invest in a single casino, it is more risky but there is not much you can do.

There are people that are still starting when it comes to investing in casino's and they don't want to maximize what they got. So as a starting amount for trying, they are just investing small amount which is a very good thing for them. Because they'll know that the smaller amount you'll invest, smaller returns you also get.
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 04:46:41 PM
it's not good to put all eggs into one basket. Because you need to maximize your bitcoins to get good profit from it. And if you are going to look on that way of investing you should relay on some experts on this type of investment like the thread that I gave. The higher amount you'll invest, the higher return will possible get back on you.
If you are going to put all your investment in one place so you will remain restricted and there will be more chance to lose most of your by investing your all money in one place.

But if you are going to  invest  your  money in different places so if your one investment goes there are more chance that your other investment will increase. So, it will be good decision to invest your money in different places.

Yes that's why I'm saying that putting all of your investments into one place is not going to be a good thing. We really need to maximize our time and investment when it comes to this matters. Because if you will into the same very places you are not going to be profitable with it and you can have more chance of losing of your capital.
If you have a small amount of money, you should only invest in one place. Analyzing will help you a lot in choosing the best place to put your money in. There are hundreds of casinos and I still can recognize that bitsler and crypto-games are one of the best in the gambling field. However, only Crypto-games accepts players to invest their money while Bitsler seems do not like this idea much

That's another case, having small amount of bitcoins and wanting to maximize it for investing with various casino's. Then that's a very hard thing to do, you can simply invest it on a specific legit and trusted casino. Bitsler and crypto-games are legit and good casino's to invest but there are also new aspiring ones like kingdice.
While diversifying where your money is invested is great if your capital is too low you run the risk of your small earnings being eaten by fees so it is better in that case to just invest in a single casino, it is more risky but there is not much you can do.
legendary
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February 28, 2017, 10:59:54 AM
This would be the right place for the discussion IMO, anyway investing is better mathematically than gambling since the house edge is in your favor, the tough question is the place to invest in, Just-dice was the obvious pick before but now it's not as easy as before to choose where to invest.

Yup, where investments are indeed provide us with an advantage. But if we are wrong in taking the place for investment then everything will end up at a huge disadvantage, the Casino is a very profitable place for each investment, but also very dangerous for all people who do not understand how game (investment), better before committing investment in Casino learn it to understand the new do
if you take a look on how a lot of casino making profit then you don't have to feel confused to understand how investment works , simply you will get profit sharing when you decide to inject your money to their bankroll .

casino get profit = you get it too , what else you should to be understand?
I think what he means we should understand how investment work first is not about how we can get profit, but rather how "transparency" between investor and casino once we invested our money in a gambling/casino site. This is why Baryom, as Bitsler's admin also curious about this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitsler-invest-1787647
And about "Huge disadvantage" what he said too, i am sure he means we must know which site we want to invest (that site must trusted obviously), or our investment will gone when admin from that site ran away.
ahh fair enough , i just get it now lol . it is indeed a transparency needed , but how can a casino owner make it more transparent? as there stated already about how much a casino profit isn't it? i don't think there is a way to make it more transparent .

so you have to choose a casino that you really know well about the casino owner, and fully trust on them, interesting opinion from NLnico there btw.
newbie
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February 28, 2017, 03:04:21 AM
Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a topic but I really want some answers and it's connected to gambling in a way. I'm thinking about picking a casino and investing in it, so that I can have some small income every month (if everything goes okay). What I wanted to ask is if that is possible to see the information about casinos' income per day or month for now or is it private information nobod really gives that easily? And do you think investing in casino is a good idea, by the way? Thank you.
Investing in casino is actually a very good idea. Remember the house always wins in the long run. Make sure you invest on a popular and legitimate casino.
You can try investing on crypto-games.net. Check their FAQ for more information about investing. You can check all the information about the casino, how much profit/loss per day, how much they made/lost in a month and so on.

It can be a good idea only if you analyze it the same way as investing in any other bussiness. The house always wins rule doesn't apply here at all.

The house wins vs. the player. Not in total. There are plenty examples in Atlantic City in recent years. The casino has plenty of expenses to cover  - royalties to software provider, processing fees, winners, fraud, support and marketing which can take 50% of the budget. Not to mention that most won't share all the details with you so you are kindof blind.

If you think online casinos are such a good investment then the best way is through the stock market. I have stocks of 888 since they were in 100p area (now at 234) and Playtech. For example investing in NetEnt 5-6 years ago when their slots where added to almost every non-usa casino was a good idea (the stock is 5x since ).
hero member
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February 27, 2017, 09:10:36 PM
it's not good to put all eggs into one basket. Because you need to maximize your bitcoins to get good profit from it. And if you are going to look on that way of investing you should relay on some experts on this type of investment like the thread that I gave. The higher amount you'll invest, the higher return will possible get back on you.
If you are going to put all your investment in one place so you will remain restricted and there will be more chance to lose most of your by investing your all money in one place.

But if you are going to  invest  your  money in different places so if your one investment goes there are more chance that your other investment will increase. So, it will be good decision to invest your money in different places.

Yes that's why I'm saying that putting all of your investments into one place is not going to be a good thing. We really need to maximize our time and investment when it comes to this matters. Because if you will into the same very places you are not going to be profitable with it and you can have more chance of losing of your capital.
If you have a small amount of money, you should only invest in one place. Analyzing will help you a lot in choosing the best place to put your money in. There are hundreds of casinos and I still can recognize that bitsler and crypto-games are one of the best in the gambling field. However, only Crypto-games accepts players to invest their money while Bitsler seems do not like this idea much

That's another case, having small amount of bitcoins and wanting to maximize it for investing with various casino's. Then that's a very hard thing to do, you can simply invest it on a specific legit and trusted casino. Bitsler and crypto-games are legit and good casino's to invest but there are also new aspiring ones like kingdice.

When one got a small amount than should start first with anyone trusted the site and slowly start investing profits on another site as well. But keeping all your money in any one site is not a good investment strategy. Becuase any time one can win big amount then all your profits may suddenly drain up. So you can start with one site but as soon as possible you start diversifying your funds.

Just like what we have discussed earlier, if you do have small amount it's fine to put on a single site. And to make those newbie investors pursue their investment with casino's it's better to follow some thread of experts on this type of investment. I do believe that not all newbies will start in small amount there are some that can invest on higher amount.
sr. member
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February 27, 2017, 03:19:46 PM
Finding a reputable casinos is not a hard job to do, we have threads here dedicated for a specific casinos running their business and we can always read the feedback of the people, and we have already a good understanding on where to invest. Though it does not guarantee that we are scam free but at least we are confident with what we are doing. Moreover, we need to diversify our investments.
Although it is not such an easy job to find a trusted casino, but I think bitcointalk can make it easy for you to find a trusted casino, where you can invest your money in a trusted casino. But still you also need to do some investigation about the casino where are you are going to invest our money.

Bitcointalk community are active in determining what is a scam Casino site and what is not.  This is also the reporting spot of those who are scammed and give warning to the possible victim of the scam.  About investment I think there is some thread here that updates its statistics on different casinos that they put an investment.  I just forgot the link though sorry for that.
yes here we can get some help about bitcoin, as most of the people here are actively playing gambling, therefore we can get good help from bitcointalk about gambling.
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