Topic: Investing Urge or Trading Surge (Read 427 times)

At the end of the day everything depends on what you think it is going to be the performance of that project you are talking about, it is true the market of altcoins is doing well but that should be a point against investing in the project you are talking about, dogecoin now is the fourth coin in terms of market cap and it may even reach the third spot in no time at all, and when the market is moving like that it is preferable to invest in altcoins that people are interested in at the moment as this excitement is not going to last forever and you could miss on some impressive profits.

I would never recommend that; why should we go for do-or-die kind of risk?

There are a lot of opportunities are available which will be helping us to diversify our portfolio so that we could earn in definite way rather than risking all at one opportunity which may hit or may not.

Both investments and trading are highly unpredictable which is the reason we are going for multiple options to ensure we are having good returns in average at least.

I'm seeing a lot of people are going all into bitcoin and sharing like they are enjoying good profits because of bitcoin's strong rally on every four years. Still, I agree with them because they are planning for long-term like for decade of holding and not just one or two years. It means we can go for investing into only one thing but that should be bitcoin and more importantly should be for very long period of holding like 10 or 15 years.

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Your capital to be invested or trade should also be considered in the factors to make a reasonable choice. Though given the statements you said, I would say that, it seems that you know the investment will be long term and you are positive with the trading route, then;

Go seperate your capital 3/4 to 1/4.

3/4 to trading cause it seems that you're postiive that it will give you positive results, plus it is short term, and;

1/4 to investment for now, cause its long term, then invest your profits from the trading you done to this.

WIN WIN

- Knowledge in stocks is difficult to understand when the influences in this market always start from different corporate regulations, strategies, politics and economic perspectives, there are almost a lot of factors that require us to have a clear explanation in order to be able to invest. Crypto is more about demand and novelty, it doesn't stick to too many regulations, people like it and it will increase in price, investing is also easier to understand, if crypto disappears in the future, I will be able to redirect but otherwise, here getting benefits is still a good plan

If you are very confident about the project and willing to hold it long term, then go ahead, invest all. You would be risking everything. Either its going to change your life or you are going to drown in regrets (and financial problems).
But if you have doubts, then instead of investing everything on that "potential" project that you found, how about spreading your investment? Invest like 50% on the project and trade/invest rest in bitcoin and other well known altcoins. At least you won't be risking everything.

That is best the decision to take but I don't chase having a huge return like 100-200%, I felt so bad with that knowing that not all the time the market is in the bullish season. And I don't want to fool people who think that they can easily make money in Bitcoin and multiply their investment quickly. No, because it was not the real happening inside.

15 years holding? I can't imagine if someone could do that without having some temptation to sell?

These are some confusing moments for investors when there is dilemma where to invest money to seek high returns in future.Here are some options you can choose as per my opinion(it's just advice as I am not professional trader):

1)If the project you are talking about has potential and offers stable and high returns and it's worth risk taking then you can surely invest your money in that project after all your judgements.

2)Bull run seems to be over and you can invest some portion in altcoins also as they are rallying very high this time and touching ATH like ETH,ETC,DOT,BNB.They are potential coins and can provide you short as well as long term profits if you trade effectively between the candles.

3)If you want and can Hold Bitcoin for long term then it's one of the best option because we have seen high returns of 100-200% this pandemic so just imagine returns in 15 years when we will pass 3 halvings also and there is no risk of 25% but 2500% return can be there for you.

4)Don't invest in Mutua funds at this time because economies are hardly effected and stock market will take some time to grow and same is th case with your funds.Moreover you will be getting 10-15% annual returns which are far less than crypto market keeping in mind risk and volatility factor.

but diversify our assets need to do , we know bitcoin or cryptocurrency provide huge profit potency , but in stock did it too. personally i will split some my money into stock although i am already get alot from bitcoin and other coins. remember, in crypto we still facing hacking problem which is could suffer us anytime. maybe in our exchange or our own wallet.

I am sure that you will never need to know about stock trading as I'm seeing you are already doing great with the cryptocurrency trading. I mean only if you are not good with cryptocurrency trading in terms of level of profit making from it, you might need to think about switching over or extending your trading into stocks.

But, when you're investing/trading only with good potential coins then I believe you will never need to go beyond cryptocurrency trading. For example, I am comfortable with my bitcoin holding even I am making good profits only after years of holding and waiting; I guess I will never think about extending my investments into stocks. But, I may choose the real estate kind of the traditional investment as part of business and investment as well.

I haven't tried to invest in stocks yet as it's hard for me to understand it. I am more into cryptocurrency trading. It's much easier for me to trade/invest in altcoins that have potential and promising to rise. In the future, If I get a chance and got a good budget, I want to know more about stocks trading as I think it's needed more money for stocks trading compared to cryptocurrency trading.

Since it's a long term project I would rather give it a 40% investment while I trade with the remaining 60%. Chances are, if I'm focused and that good at trading, I'll probably double my capital in no time and now I'll have more funds to invest in the project. The initial investment was just incase the coins skyrocket so I won't be left out of the party.

Now if when you want invest, the coin has risen to some incredible price then you'll just have to wait for a correction, it might not fall to your initial buying price but at least it'll give you an opportunity to enter the trade and don't forget you're in for long term so the profits will always be certain provided you made the right selection of coins.

If it might start to bullish then you should check it if its already at the dip before it starts because once you put in a very critical level it might go down constantly as well.. Remember to follow the basic rules even its for long run investment coz that's how it really work. So to prevent losses instead of gaining massive profits better to study the coin itself.... And invest what amount you can afford to lose coz in such coin it still unpredictable how much you can make in the future and still very unpredicted what will be the situation afterwards..

I mentioned before that I was leaning a little bit into investing in stocks, but I heard as well that it was falling when the pandemic started that's why I didn't bother to continue.
Somehow both are obviously different, but due to convenience that I can invest in crypto, specifically Bitcoin, I just went along with it and didn't bother investing in stocks anymore.

The more the better right? but dealing with both markets would turn out to be stressful even though you are fully aware with the market but doesnt mean that executing trades would be that easy.

If you are a type of trader who do make out swing trades then it wont be an issue but being active on both markets then that would be an another story. Honestly, you can make out

comparison in terms of profit between those both markets and im much sure that you would take seriously on dealing with crypto yet its no denial on how much it can possibly give gains on you.

15 years is a very long time we are talking about. Even if you blindly trust the project and even trust the promoters even a single mistake can lead to abandoning of the projects. I am saying this keeping at par with most of the startups in the world. Most of them have great ideas but it doesn't just require a great idea to succeed. So putting all your investment in that particular project for a period of 15 years is nothing less than stupidity. That also at the time of a bull run because we know for a fact that when BTC prices would go south in bear market the whole market would go red.

Also seeing your risk aversion which is good 25% I think you can try to trade your way out. In just 1 year or so you would be enough trained to take money anytime out of market. Then in future you can invest this money in that potential project at time of bear run where you might find better prices.

Stocks is something I have never tried. Good to know, these days people are investing into both stocks and cryptos as a time; because people will choose higher ROI based only; in that way crypto must be the choice for many people nowadays.

Yeah, I am also coming across many such news. Honestly I am not getting surprised on seeing them. Moreover in my view, they are in right direction to buy back 2 or 5 houses after some years of holding cryptos.

I have seen and read about people selling their houses all in an effort to have enough money to buy crypto and if am to answer OPs question with this example, this has to be an investing urge though there isn't much of a difference with having a trading urge.

Putting risk into the picture, this is a nice strategy!

Very true !

If someone is good at both stocks as well as crypto then it's only a good thing as he will be able to gain profits from multiple sources.
It's not about belief but about what suits the needs of one and how it benefits him.
I am personally exploring both stocks and crypto and right now I am more into crypto.
Investing more and trading with a short amount for now.

I believe this is the common scenario of most people here. I mean most of the people here are already into investment but very rarely keep trying in trading because of lack of knowledge and skills in trading and at the same time they might be profitably doing with investments as bitcoin is a proven asset for long-term investment.

I am having my portfolio based on 90% into investments and I have only less then 10% into active trading. This doesn't mean I am good at trading because I am making use of long-term trends which may be lasting more than a month of time whereas my holdings are just sleeping for years to get me massive profits after 5 to 10 years.

Well, that also depends on your capability and since we know that trading could really hard if you don't have an interest about this. If I'm going to choose which once either trading or investing, I should have to choice investing since I already know myself that I'm not good in trading. Maybe I look to that someday but as I've said, that only happen if the interest still there. Because you can't underestimate trading and you can't tell that was an easy job coz mostly many were ended badly.