Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation - page 76. (Read 171575 times)

lol the answer to that is in the quote you added!

"I'm not selling any iota this year".

The point is not what IOTA is worth now (whatever people are willing to pay for it), the point is what they might be worth; the potential upside. This is what fuels investment decisions, not the amount someone else once paid for it. People don't refuse to buy shares in facebook or bitcoin simply because the earliest pool of investors are getting 10,000's%; they buy because they think the price will go up from where it is.

Anyway, you've made it clear you don't have the resources to make a bet interesting or worthwhile, so will set you on ignore now. Good luck with your fud campaign in the face of the first fully-functioning chainless, feeless, microtransaction-ready crypto. I think we'll be up in the top few market caps before the year is out and that's a lot of Xs for the people who did buy at the prices in here, so well done them imo; I still haven't sold one iota, despite following this thread from the start.

No more fuel for your troll-fire from me.  

I won't bet against that, it's probable.

Well then chuckle all the way, since i will be staying here for some time. Right now it looks like this thread is the main market for iota. Woohoo, a multi million dollar topic....

Again you guys are trying to scam me into putting about 10.000$ worth of BTC into escrow, while you cover with about 97,50$ initial investment. What is wrong with you? I know you are scalping others but please leave me out of it. Just stick with my initial bet. BTC is the reserve currency over here.

I am sticking with your original one, you are the one who has tried to change it. I only want to be paid in Gi for exactly the bet you describe (over 0.5btc for 100 Gi 24 hours post polo), and I can't be arsed betting peanuts, so 300 Gi or enough BTC to cover that buy 24 hours later. Why worry about the 15btc, if you're right you'll get it all back, there's no way IOTA will mewn too far is there? Even if you're wrong you'll get like 5-10btc back won't you? Unless of course you're very wrong, in which case I'll get all 15btc and still be short changed.

If you don't even have 15btc to cover the risk then what am I doing talking about making a bet with you? Go back to the playground and bet for stickers and gum. If you can't put up enough capital to be worth winning then stop challenging us to accept a bet for pittance.

I'm not selling any iota this year, so the only way you'll get any off me is with a bet on my terms; if that's no interest then just carry on fudding and see where it gets you lol. Markets don't move for silly little fudders, they move for millions of dollars of serious investment, so by all means, fud and warn away (as is your prerogative), I will continue to chuckle at you and poke fun at your stupidity (my idea of fun).

Deal or not? Asking me to put 15 BTC into escrow to cover for 300Gis (0,15 BTC, thank you for the correction^^)  is out of the question though. Quote a realistic bet or stick with my initial one...

PMSL, now you're quickly changing your bet by factor of 10 as well. No wonder you're so confused by all of this, you're numerically dyslexic.

Your bet is that it will be under 0.5btc per 100Gi 24 hours after hitting exchanges as above, not 5btc per 100Gi! I would need you to cover by that amount in case it does moon by 10x your silly bet, and I'LL COVER ESCROW FEES.

"BTW: what did you pay for your 300gi? 0,01 BTC?"

Your maths is pretty bad isn't it?

more like 0.15 btc, so you're only out by 15x!!!

You should see the ROI crowdsalers got from CFB's last project... ever heard of NXT? .

But listen; i will accept your bet. But im not going to put 15 BTC into escrow. Escrow fees might even surpass the earnings i gain from the 300GI.

This is a deal of honour now:

If IOTA is over 5btc per 100 Gi after 24 hours on Poloniex i will send you 15 BTC
If IOTA is under 5btc per 100 Gi after 24 hours on Poloniex you will send me 300GI

Deal?

Eh, no you dont have to buy iota now... did you not read what I wrote? you could risk it and cover with more btc than they cost to settle at the price they are after 24 hours... so by your reckoning you should be able to buy them cheaply and if you win you will be able to. If you lose you will have to buy 300 Gi at market price (or escrow will on your behalf) to settle the bet.

Thought it was pretty clear?

Totally fair bet... 300Gi, you can choose when to pay the iota price, now or 24 hours after going live on polo.

so you want me to buy iota at your crooked price so i can bet against you? Is this really your final offer? Reference currency is still BTC around here.

All i can say is: Buyers beware

BTW: what did you pay for your 300gi? 0,01 BTC?^^

Not being funny, I'm deadly serious... Although I'm an adult and 0.5btc is not worth my time with escrow hassle. I'll take the bet in Gi's, if you really want it you'll take it. I'd rather hold those and settling into those than BTC where possible because they have way more upside in the short term.

I'll go as low as 300 Gi, can't be arsed for any less than that... if all these sellers are going to dump at such low prices post-launch then you should have no problem finding someone to buy from and at a cheap enough price.

But, If you don't want to cover the bet with iotas now then I'll let you put 5 btc per 100Gi into escrow, so min 15btc to cover a 300Gi min bet, then escrow can settle winning amount into Gi for me and refund you any remainder? If IOTA is over 5btc per 100 Gi after 24 hours on Poloniex then I'll just take the the 300 Gi escrow buys for me, keep my iotas and there's no need to make up the difference, I'm a generous guy .

If you feel confident it will be under that price you should take the bet. Some free iotas for you, even better than cheap, free

And this is supposed to be what? Funny? Just accept the bet if you stand behind your prices...

Who wants to bet btc these days...?! Bitcoin is so last year. I'll bet you 500Gis that it is over that value 24 hours after going on poloniex. That way if it's down I lose less and if it's up I win more . Of course, you'd have to buy some iotas to send to escrow; don't ask me to sell you any, you won't like the price I'm charging .

Guys, please ignore Admiral_the_sociopath and stop quoting him.

Well no more buyers for you guys...^^

Again, i dont care how many sellers put me on ignore. This is for potential buyers:

Beware of price gouging!!!

I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.

There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators

It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.

As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.

Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:

1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI

Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity?  

You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....

Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.

Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...

They don't try, they are selling because there is some buyers out there.

What do you want? Just clarify the bet if it is too vague for you. I will accept it. OgNasty can be our escrow...