Topic: [IPO 1/2] Munich Project first IPO dedicaced thread (Read 1482 times)

IPO = garbage scam .

This is not a Regulated Stock Market trading scene.

The term IPO has been applied to a new wave of digital Ponzi / pyramid schemes.. AKA: The clone coin.

What much of the guys do around this scene from EXCHANGE staff to Coin cloners pushing IPO's etc would land them jail time in a regulated market.

this is a fact period .

Ask Martha Stewart who did time for insider trading or Berni Madoff who is serving time right now for the world biggest PONZI SCHEME.

ALL the excuses and games and bullshit does not change this reality.

and since you took the concept from a regulated stock market where people are protected from theft,
you forgot to include one thing.. something to IPO hhahahhaha
you see an IPO on a REAL business is in a regulated market is one thing
and an IPO scam in an UN-Regulated crypto-scam infested scene with no real business is another !

These digital coins with no real tangible product you can hold in your hand are not like a business that sells stocks etc..
This scene is swiss cheese with scammy behavior and IPO's are the flavor of the month for them..
IPO = Scam.
People, that get involved with them are idiots and guys that post them are fucking scammers.

Thanks for making all of crypto look a 100x worse than it already did with all the scammy behavior and cloning that was already going on
thanks you sure are helping our scene out lots  

Guys running exchanges adding them are greedy excuse making sleazeballs too.. screw you guys and i hope you get burned or arrested by the FBI idiots lol
can yous say fraud dumb ass's ?

you copied and pasted a github repo ? sorry whacko's that does not mean you are running a business you can IPO lol

edit:
You guys are like masked/anonymous greedy junkies asking for drugs on a front.. trust me i'll pay ya later . uhh ....maybe lol
Would you scammy fuckers use a Bank Teller if they were wearing a ski mask ?

oh Crypto your such a funny clown lol

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Hello,

After many suggestions we received about the fact the IPO is not interesting in terms of volume reserved, we decided after a long discussion with the team to suspend our IPO program right now, and to let you choose what sounds better for you.

Our calendar will be updated soon.

You will choose :

- How much percentage of the total coins should be allowed to the IPO

- The method of distribution (even if we believe the current method is the good one)

- The percentage per year if we stay on the original method of distribution over the time

Associated thread for the poll : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-we-need-you-finding-a-goodbetter-way-for-the-munich-project-ipo-program-569468

We are awaiting your comments and opinions.

Thanks you,

Donn.

Another IPO scam.

Because only less than 1% of all coins will be distributed in the IPO.

Hello,

Can you please explain us why it is not a good form to you ?

Any suggestion will be much appreciated

Thanks you,

Donn

The IPO in this form is not a good investment, maybe that´s the reason.

Hello,

The IPO is still ongoing, for now there is not many interest about the IPO -- or maybe investors are waiting the end to have a better vision of what will happen in terms of total volume.

However, we received few investors propositions outside the IPO, but we have not acted about this now.

We'll communicate more later in case the IPO is not successful.

Please ask us any questions if you want,

Donn.

Here hopefully this will help you

Any news, Donn?

Well, it really depends of the amount of the total investment done in each IPO.

I think the good "strategy" is to think about a potencial market cap over the time for the coin, and the minimal profit you want to make considering the "risks".

But clearly, anything less than 15 BTC total per IPO is nearly risk-free, considering the work we are doing, and comparing our project to the other alts we've seen these last months.

Donn

Hello,

FYI, maths are not "twistable", you are forgeting one major thing : the coin repartition over the time (100 years to mine 96% of the total supply).

4 years is an eternity in the crypto world. Providing 4% of the supply during this time for the IPO is, in our opinion, very balanced.

Also, I think you misunderstood the conception of an IPO.

But I suppose you're the kind of guy who will refuse 4% of Bitcoin, Litecoin, PPcoin, etc... during 4 years.

Anyways, as always, we are very open to constructive comments. If the supply dedicaced to the IPO seems not enough, we will be very happy to discuss this thing with you.

However, considering the market cap we are targeting, we thinks 4% on 4 years is very good, and can make very good profits considering the "risks" involved in a new project.

Donn

To be fair, the fact that the IPO gives such a small fraction of the coins, to me actually suggests that this isn't a scam. Maybe still a bad investment though.

Scammers would typically offer 10-90% because they know it's more appealing and they're never going to have to actually pay it.

Twist the math all you want buddy, the fact still remains that you want people to invest hundreds of dollars for only a fraction of less than 1% of total coins.


High, medium or low amount of success later is completely irrelevant when you're asking for money up front.

You think this is the Wimpy forums? "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today".

You seriously are pathetic.

A little more easy maths for haters -- some possibles cases :

- Success of the project -

If this project is a success, with $4M of market cap in 1 year :

Investments in one of the IPO are returning profit the first year, until the total of 1 of the 2 IPO makes more than 182 BTC

- Medium success of the project -

If this project is a medium-success, with $400K of market cap in 1 year :

Investments in one of the IPO returning profit the first year, until the total of 1 of the 2 IPO makes more than 18 BTC


- Failed success of the project -

If this project is a fail (not even listed in the coinmarketcap top 100), with $40K of market cap in 1 year :

Investments in one of the IPO are returning profit the first year, until the total of 1 of the 2 IPO makes more than 1,8 BTC

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It's also quite impossible to know what will happen in 2, 3 or 4 years after the launch, but if the initial investment is returned the first year, we can say it's just free extra profits anyways.

Maybe more than just "free extra profits", the time will tell us.

On our side, our plans are something between $500K and $2M of market cap the first year. We believe this objective is quite possible considering all the work we are doing to make this happen.

Donn

Hello,

It seems your maths are not the best I've seen so far,

Let me take a little of my time to respond to your rudeness :

Let's say a successful alt project is around $4M market cap these days,

Let's also say a not-so-successful project is around $400K

And a failed project $40K.

The 2 IPO are representing 4% of the total supply for the 4 first years :

4% for the first year,
4% for the second year,
4% for the third year,
4% for the fourth year,
and that's it.

Considering all the alts I am talking about are under the 1 year lifetime, it means 4% will worth :

- 4% * $4M = $160.000 in case of a successful project
- 4% * $400K = $16.000 in case of a not-so-successful project
- 4% * $40K = $1.600 in case of a failed project

So, yes, if you are investing 1 BTC at $440, and you have the full return of the coins generated for the IPO, it looks like it's a good deal in any case, isn't it ?

(info: not totally true anyways, bounties of 0.5 BTC in the first IPO and 1.0 BTC in the second IPO are planned for the name choose, and the first logo creation)

And I'm ONLY talking about the 1rst year of existance, the generated coins will also come the 2nd year, and so on.

Now, please stay away of this thread if you want to continue to be rude and stupid.

Read carefully our original post, make your maths, and you'll see our IPO concept is not that stark raving mad.

All the best,

Donn

PS: We 100% agree with you roozifus, thanks you for your comment

Let me break it down for you since you seem to think people here are dumber than you think.

If I invest 1 BTC and happen to be the only investor in the IPO, I get 0.91% of all the coins to ever exist of your stupid shitcoin. Are you fucking stark raving mad? The IPO is less than 1% of all coins and you expect people to invest BTC which is currently $400+? In other words you want people in invest hundreds and hundreds of dollars to get a fraction of less than 1%?

All cryptocurrency IPOs are scams, period. If you the dev want to make money by creating a successful cryptocurrecy, then make it successful and money will come; but don't fucking think the users should pay your bills on your little experiment.

Now fuck off.

Nobody is saying that you are forcing people to give you money, none of the previous IPO scams forced people to give them money.

If you launch an IPO the community has an obligation to point out that it could very well be a scam, and statistically most IPOs have indeed been scams.


The answer on the previous thread seems to be "nobody has to give us money" and "we have written a lot of info about the project".

Both these points are the same for most of the other scam IPOs.

Hello,

We already had this kind of comment on our original thread, I suggest you to check it to see our answers about that.

And again, nobody forces anybody to invest into our project. We are taking all our time to provide the more "proofs" we can during the next weeks.

This way, the investors will know better about us, and our work.

Donn

Well, I hope you're English is good enough to understand this:

IPO = SCAM ALERT

Please take your IPO and GTFO of here, shove it where the sun don't shine.

Good day sir.