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Topic: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings - page 4. (Read 658719 times)

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PGP 9CB0902E
from havelock: Units Outstanding   2647870
https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=NEOBEE

Seems like the shares are still there.
Be so kind and provide us with a source backing your claim of free shares by someone other than btcapples.
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"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
...and why were they were given away for free?....


source? or did you just add that in for effect?
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye
I am still waiting for an explaination as to what happened to the unsold shares, and why were they were given away for free?

When will the financial report come out? I stand by my statement, if there is no financial report within the first ten days of April then I will sell off all my shares.

I am disappointed that the only statement we have gotten is a second hand remark from a news source nobody has heard of, it would be much better if some sort of statement came through an official channel.

I am quite interested to see what the first financial report will look like.
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... I am TEMPORARILY out of the country ...

Because scammers always tell the truth, 'coz them's the lawz.  And stop it with the green text.  Green text = story.
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@source101

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“My silence is for a very valid and personal reason, all the rumors that are flying about are false and couldn’t be further from the truth. I haven’t moved from Cyprus or anything of the kind. I am TEMPORARILY out of the country resolving some big issues that were made much worse by people stating incorrect facts in a public forum.” -Danny Brewster
http://www.coindesk.com/neo-bees-suspends-btc-share-trading-due-abnormal-activity/
newbie
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For the love of god, when can we expect any serious statement about what is going on...

My gut says not for a while. Danny's latest

CEO of Neo & Bee, Danny Brewster, has yet to make any official statements towards the news. However, he says he is currently out of the UK “resolving some big issues that were made much worse by people stating incorrect facts in a public forum.”

from;https://coinreport.net/neo-bee-bitcoin-share-trading/

He is not coming back but it appears he wants people to think he is. Mr Danny Brewster, message me I will tell you who I am and how I know information and same to a moderator who wishes to keep deleting my posts which are facts given by Danny himself. If you ask me I will tell you.
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There we are. Got some dinner and finished cleaning up this thread.

Unlike other mods, I believe in the broken windows theory: This thread has gone unchecked for so long that people were pushed into off-topic trolling. So for the most part, I'll let this slide.

The next time an off-topic post is made, however, I will take serious consideration about banning its poster. Permanently.

You've been warned.

Want to reply to this post? Do so here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6010315
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For the love of god, when can we expect any serious statement about what is going on...
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It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye

Is there any specific regulation forbidding market manipulation on Havelock?  Is it a Havelock rule?  It is a panama rule?  I mean, I get the common sense idea that market manipulation isn't allow... and I haven't looked into this so I don't know, but is there really anything forbidding market manipulation here?

Exactly
 
and what the hell the   'Xfr' feature (on Havelock)  is for  anyway?

Transfer is to move shares between accounts.  Havelock forbids email changes, so you actually have to sign up for a new account to change the email.  Then you need a way to transfer your own shares to yourself.  It's also useful in a private sale if you know and trust your customer.  You could avoid havelock fees in that case, but not sure it's worth the extra trouble.  

Trading is frozen on Havelock right now, but can we still transfer shares between accounts?
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Is there any specific regulation forbidding market manipulation on Havelock?  Is it a Havelock rule?  It is a panama rule?  I mean, I get the common sense idea that market manipulation isn't allow... and I haven't looked into this so I don't know, but is there really anything forbidding market manipulation here?

Exactly
 
and what the hell the   'Xfr' feature (on Havelock)  is for  anyway?

Transfer is to move shares between accounts.  Havelock forbids email changes, so you actually have to sign up for a new account to change the email.  Then you need a way to transfer your own shares to yourself.  It's also useful in a private sale if you know and trust your customer.  You could avoid havelock fees in that case, but not sure it's worth the extra trouble.  
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how can you have a black market if the only way to move shares is through Havelock or LMB Holdings

Well if you are not trading any asset in the designated market, if you are trading on the streets and in forums, you are trading in the blackmarket.
easy as that.
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Jesus was a (Goddamn) hippy socialist

Is there any specific regulation forbidding market manipulation on Havelock?  Is it a Havelock rule?  It is a panama rule?  I mean, I get the common sense idea that market manipulation isn't allow... and I haven't looked into this so I don't know, but is there really anything forbidding market manipulation here?

Exactly
 
and what the hell the   'Xfr' feature (on Havelock)  is for  anyway?
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its not a "not allow" thing, this is Bitcoinland, nothing is forbidden.

It is market rules. When *any asset* is traded in a centralised platform (like havelock is)
and somebody is shelling the asset in the blackmarket at a lower price, this happens.

Trolls are trying to make it look as if apples had nothing to do with it.
If apples was in the makret for the sale, he would have to abide with the market rules,
meaning someone could stop his offer by placing another one.

He played the game, that is what happened. The trolls are just support,
pretty much like the tweeter pumpers
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ICO is evil
Havelock IS the only market this asset is traded now.
The apples guy made the forum sale, and that itself constitutes market manipulation.

One party, apples, acting in bad faith is sellong shares of the asset offmarket, essentially the "black market" if one could say something like that.
He lied as to what his motives were at the beginning (nothing wrong with that on the web), but the action itself(the blackmarketing)
is a reason for a trade stop, and an inquiry.

He probably was just trying to break his share into more smaller chunks and move it out to havelock, but his actions messed the game.
So now we wait.


Is there any specific regulation forbidding market manipulation on Havelock?  Is it a Havelock rule?  It is a panama rule?  I mean, I get the common sense idea that market manipulation isn't allow... and I haven't looked into this so I don't know, but is there really anything forbidding market manipulation here?
hero member
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Jesus was a (Goddamn) hippy socialist
Havelock IS the only market this asset is traded now.
The apples guy made the forum sale, and that itself constitutes market manipulation.

One party, apples, acting in bad faith is sellong shares of the asset offmarket, essentially the "black market" if one could say something like that.
He lied as to what his motives were at the beginning (nothing wrong with that on the web), but the action itself(the blackmarketing)
is a reason for a trade stop, and an inquiry.

He probably was just trying to break his share into more smaller chunks and move it out to havelock, but his actions messed the game.
So now we wait.


how can you have a black market if the only way to move shares is through Havelock or LMB Holdings

I bought some for a friend and transferred them to him after he created an account , does that make me a black-market-seller(?)
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@GreekGeek:  Absolutely.  Glad someone else notices the obvious.

@SZZT:  GreekGeek is doing exactly the same thing.  Teh Forces of Evol are everywhere...
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Havelock IS the only market this asset is traded now.
The apples guy made the forum sale, and that itself constitutes market manipulation.

One party, apples, acting in bad faith is sellong shares of the asset offmarket, essentially the "black market" if one could say something like that.
He lied as to what his motives were at the beginning (nothing wrong with that on the web), but the action itself(the blackmarketing)
is a reason for a trade stop, and an inquiry.

He probably was just trying to break his share into more smaller chunks and move it out to havelock, but his actions messed the game.
So now we wait.
hero member
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Jesus was a (Goddamn) hippy socialist
@GreekGeek:  I was speaking tongue-in-cheek.  Another guy who did basically the same thing you are doing was accused of manipulating the market & being the cause of halted trading.  Sorry If it wasn't obvious, no offence meant.


no offence taken

but wouldn't it be the same if this guy sold the shares on Havelock?
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@GreekGeek:  I was speaking tongue-in-cheek.  Another guy who did basically the same thing you are doing was accused of manipulating the market & being the cause of halted trading.  Sorry If it wasn't obvious, no offence meant.
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@NotLambchop can you even read?
"I HAVE NOT MOVE FROM CYPRUS"

You claimed that he was in Cyprus, in daily contact with his lawyers.  He has stated that he was not in Cyprus.
One of you is lying.
Which one?


Yes he cannot go for trip? (block passport)
Yes he cannot call he lawyers (block phone number)

Tell us more about the fleeing with his family
I have time for entertainment

Yes, he can go on a trip and leave Cyprus.  That requires leaving Cyprus.  Not being in Cyprus.  Not being in two places at once.
Like talking to a frickin' banana Angry

Guys, you missing the point:
Its one thing Leaving Cyprus (say for a week)
and a completely different thing moving out of Cyprus (say forever).
Can we start discussing as grownups know? Wink

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