Yeah guys, but I am talking about our PT shares on Havelock. I can only believe that NEOBEE internal software is up to date with protocol.
TAT are you considering 1 free transfer per month/2months/1Q from PT to Directs ? Or no chance? You know, we early investors didn't have a chance to buy direct shares in first place. I would like to transfer all Havelock shares to Directs ASAP. But honestly I don't like to pay that huge fee for it. I just read in AM thread that one guy lost 150 AM shares with enabled 2FA on Havelock. Wild wild west ...
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Danny,
I hope your Traders are getting in some good practice. It's pretty wild out there!
I hope your Traders are getting in some good practice. It's pretty wild out there!
I did a research for past 48hours and it seems like that everybody who is running some bitcoin operation with off-chain 0 confirmations instant transactions (and is using txid for verification) like exchanges ( maybe Havelock(!) ) is vulnerable to malleability attack.
+1 for this
yes, i admit the negativity and conspiracy thinking in my recent posts ... but i hardly find something what makes me think different in bitcoin world in recent months, sorry about that. I am just careful.
+1 for this
IMHO a lot of vendors, exchanges etc just haven't been doing house keeping. Once Gox spread the news malleability has become a new source of exploit for the kiddyscriptors as well as a convenient excuse for scam artists.
yes, i admit the negativity and conspiracy thinking in my recent posts ... but i hardly find something what makes me think different in bitcoin world in recent months, sorry about that. I am just careful.
Careful is fine but if you only carry a hammer everything looks like a nail.
Another way of interpreting Danny's message is that Neo is (thank the heavens) more professional and conscientious than the operators of some of the exchanges and vendors in BTCland. (yes, Karpeles I'm looking at you)
BTC is a world changing protocol much like html was...but it is still in beta really and the infrastructure surrounding it needs to be improved significantly. My hope is that Neo will be one of those improvements.
+1.
I have met the NEO team and they are all great, and more importantly, more-then-capable. NEO will be revolutionary on many levels: For the 'Banking' Industry but more importantly for the Bitcoin.
I did a research for past 48hours and it seems like that everybody who is running some bitcoin operation with off-chain 0 confirmations instant transactions (and is using txid for verification) like exchanges ( maybe Havelock(!) ) is vulnerable to malleability attack.
+1 for this
yes, i admit the negativity and conspiracy thinking in my recent posts ... but i hardly find something what makes me think different in bitcoin world in recent months, sorry about that. I am just careful.
+1 for this
IMHO a lot of vendors, exchanges etc just haven't been doing house keeping. Once Gox spread the news malleability has become a new source of exploit for the kiddyscriptors as well as a convenient excuse for scam artists.
yes, i admit the negativity and conspiracy thinking in my recent posts ... but i hardly find something what makes me think different in bitcoin world in recent months, sorry about that. I am just careful.
Careful is fine but if you only carry a hammer everything looks like a nail.
Another way of interpreting Danny's message is that Neo is (thank the heavens) more professional and conscientious than the operators of some of the exchanges and vendors in BTCland. (yes, Karpeles I'm looking at you)
BTC is a world changing protocol much like html was...but it is still in beta really and the infrastructure surrounding it needs to be improved significantly. My hope is that Neo will be one of those improvements.
I did a research for past 48hours and it seems like that everybody who is running some bitcoin operation with off-chain 0 confirmations instant transactions (and is using txid for verification) like exchanges ( maybe Havelock(!) ) is vulnerable to malleability attack.
+1 for this
yes, i admit the negativity and conspiracy thinking in my recent posts ... but i hardly find something what makes me think different in bitcoin world in recent months, sorry about that. I am just careful.
+1 for this
IMHO a lot of vendors, exchanges etc just haven't been doing house keeping. Once Gox spread the news malleability has become a new source of exploit for the kiddyscriptors as well as a convenient excuse for scam artists.
yes, i admit the negativity and conspiracy thinking in my recent posts ... but i hardly find something what makes me think different in bitcoin world in recent months, sorry about that. I am just careful.
In other words, what is essential for us shareholders, is that : If Danny and co. knew about this issue 2 months ago, the whole NEOBEE was very well prepared and awaiting BTC crash. Possible in unregulated market? Sure. Illegal? No. Are we going to profit from this? IDK but I doubt that anybody else besides individuals behind this theater will profit.
That silence around finally make sense.
EDIT : Its good to be prepared for situation that Havelock is in trouble right now and they will potentially run with remaining BTCs and lock shares (look at recent SR2 bs news). I hope not, but who knows, history teaches us. So TAT, please make backup of database and I suggest to halt all share transfers until the malleability issue is done and we have a clear statement from Havelock that they are not affected in any way by malleability. I don't want to spread panic, but I am tired to see that community is losing coins because of this kind of 3rd party bullshits since 2011.
Also its very suspicious that Havelock still didn't implement the feature, that owner of shares can lock btc address to account. So our shares are not registered to btc address there, but to email.
That silence around finally make sense.
EDIT : Its good to be prepared for situation that Havelock is in trouble right now and they will potentially run with remaining BTCs and lock shares (look at recent SR2 bs news). I hope not, but who knows, history teaches us. So TAT, please make backup of database and I suggest to halt all share transfers until the malleability issue is done and we have a clear statement from Havelock that they are not affected in any way by malleability. I don't want to spread panic, but I am tired to see that community is losing coins because of this kind of 3rd party bullshits since 2011.
Also its very suspicious that Havelock still didn't implement the feature, that owner of shares can lock btc address to account. So our shares are not registered to btc address there, but to email.
I think it's set up so that TAT does get a list of Havelock NEOBEE passthru owners twice daily.
In other words, what is essential for us shareholders, is that : If Danny and co. knew about this issue 2 months ago, the whole NEOBEE was very well prepared and awaiting BTC crash.
I wish people would do some reading about the malleability issue rather resort to comments like this.
Read the interview with Greg Maxwell for a start and also
http://falkvinge.net/2014/02/11/the-embarrassing-fact-mtgox-left-out-of-their-press-release/
IMHO a lot of vendors, exchanges etc just haven't been doing house keeping. Once Gox spread the news malleability has become a new source of exploit for the kiddyscriptors as well as a convenient excuse for scam artists.
NeoBee has obviously kept up to date with its BTC clients but rather than say well done for being conscientious bitcoin.newsfeed (who lets face it sees the negative in everything) sees it as some sort of conspiracy.
In other words, what is essential for us shareholders, is that : If Danny and co. knew about this issue 2 months ago, the whole NEOBEE was very well prepared and awaiting BTC crash. Possible in unregulated market? Sure. Illegal? No. Are we going to profit from this? IDK but I doubt that anybody else besides individuals behind this theater will profit.
That silence around finally make sense.
EDIT : Its good to be prepared for situation that Havelock is in trouble right now and they will potentially run with remaining BTCs and lock shares (look at recent SR2 bs news). I hope not, but who knows, history teaches us. So TAT, please make backup of database and I suggest to halt all share transfers until the malleability issue is done and we have a clear statement from Havelock that they are not affected in any way by malleability. I don't want to spread panic, but I am tired to see that community is losing coins because of this kind of 3rd party bullshits since 2011.
Also its very suspicious that Havelock still didn't implement the feature, that owner of shares can lock btc address to account. So our shares are not registered to btc address there, but to email.
That silence around finally make sense.
EDIT : Its good to be prepared for situation that Havelock is in trouble right now and they will potentially run with remaining BTCs and lock shares (look at recent SR2 bs news). I hope not, but who knows, history teaches us. So TAT, please make backup of database and I suggest to halt all share transfers until the malleability issue is done and we have a clear statement from Havelock that they are not affected in any way by malleability. I don't want to spread panic, but I am tired to see that community is losing coins because of this kind of 3rd party bullshits since 2011.
Also its very suspicious that Havelock still didn't implement the feature, that owner of shares can lock btc address to account. So our shares are not registered to btc address there, but to email.
I know this is wrong thread for this, but i want to address NEOBEE developers to watch out for this in creating software for NEOBEE operations. Thanks
The "Gox" problem has been addressed by our developers and it will not affect any of our technical operations.
Listen guys. I just got an idea.
Don't you see connection between current malleability issues and Bitfunder ? Maybe Bitfunder was first victim of "malleability feature" in bitcoin protocol? I know you can't transfer any coins between wallets without confirmations of the network ... UNTIL you don't use custom made software with hot wallets and off chain transactions in your system which allows exactly this kind of instant transfers, which are crucial for exchanges like bitfunder.
I just remembered : "The bitcoins are simply not there." - Danny
I know this is wrong thread for this, but i want to address NEOBEE developers to watch out for this in creating software for NEOBEE operations. Thanks
Don't you see connection between current malleability issues and Bitfunder ? Maybe Bitfunder was first victim of "malleability feature" in bitcoin protocol? I know you can't transfer any coins between wallets without confirmations of the network ... UNTIL you don't use custom made software with hot wallets and off chain transactions in your system which allows exactly this kind of instant transfers, which are crucial for exchanges like bitfunder.
I just remembered : "The bitcoins are simply not there." - Danny
I know this is wrong thread for this, but i want to address NEOBEE developers to watch out for this in creating software for NEOBEE operations. Thanks
Yes the branch will open on the 24th February 2014. 
Know if main branch will open according to announced date, on the 24th?
That's all we've heard here(on this thread). I wouldn't think any different. There are conferences, press releases, and workshops scheduled for the 23rd and 24th. Sounds like 'it's a go' on the 24th.
Reveal advertisements should be starting sometime soon.
Know if main branch will open according to announced date, on the 24th?
Reveal advertisements should be starting sometime soon.
been out of the loop for a while... so, has the Nicosia main branch opened yet? Are there photos/testimonials of clients?
Opens on the 24th I believe
Is this ETA valid?
Standark Bank throws out Bitcoin idea
http://businesstech.co.za/news/banking/53087/standark-bank-throws-out-bitcoin-idea/
http://businesstech.co.za/news/banking/53087/standark-bank-throws-out-bitcoin-idea/
been out of the loop for a while... so, has the Nicosia main branch opened yet? Are there photos/testimonials of clients?
Opens on the 24th I believe
been out of the loop for a while... so, has the Nicosia main branch opened yet? Are there photos/testimonials of clients?
Switchless' Solution Helps Banks Enable Users to Buy, Sell, Save, and Spend Bitcoin
http://finovate.com/2014/02/switchless-solution-helps-banks-enable-users-to-buy-sell-save-and-spend-bitcoin.html#.Uvqbwe6ZTYk.twitter
https://switchless.com/
http://finovate.com/2014/02/switchless-solution-helps-banks-enable-users-to-buy-sell-save-and-spend-bitcoin.html#.Uvqbwe6ZTYk.twitter
https://switchless.com/
Aussie Technologists Plan To Open The World's First Bitcoin-Based Bank This Year
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/aussie-technologists-are-opening-the-worlds-first-bitcoin-based-bank-this-year-2014-2
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/aussie-technologists-are-opening-the-worlds-first-bitcoin-based-bank-this-year-2014-2
great ... but the pie is big for everyone, right?
... i hope that NEOBEE will deliver something very soon, not just promises and delays ...
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