Iraq's second largest city, Mosul, captured by Islamic State of Iraq and Syria - page 4.

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Quote from: RiverBoatBTC on June 10, 2014, 10:00:16 PM

Here you go again lol, He did not unite them, he suppressed them. Pretty sure the North of Iraq was not even under his control at the time of occupation.

He suppressed the Islamists, just like what Abdel Fattah el-Sisi is doing in Egypt right now. That's why the Saudis and the Qataris were against him, although he was a Sunni. And the Northern part was controlled by the Kurds, who were also secular.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 10, 2014, 09:58:40 PM

Iraq is a deeply polarized society, with Sunnis, Shias, Kurds and other minorities deeply distrustful of each other. Despite this, Saddam Hussain was able to unite them, although by applying force. He suppressed the radical Islamists as well, making the lives of minorities (Christians, Yazidis, Mandeans.etc) easier. Once the Americans overthrew him, the Islamist radicals immediately rose to power and caused problem for the minorities. 80% of the minority population has vanished from Iraq during the last decade.

Here you go again lol, He did not unite them, he suppressed them. Pretty sure the North of Iraq was not even under his control at the time of occupation.

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Iraq is a deeply polarized society, with Sunnis, Shias, Kurds and other minorities deeply distrustful of each other. Despite this, Saddam Hussain was able to unite them, although by applying force. He suppressed the radical Islamists as well, making the lives of minorities (Christians, Yazidis, Mandeans.etc) easier. Once the Americans overthrew him, the Islamist radicals immediately rose to power and caused problem for the minorities. 80% of the minority population has vanished from Iraq during the last decade.

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Quote from: RiverBoatBTC on June 10, 2014, 06:02:25 PM

It was not obama, it was the Iraqis that failed to sign a security agreement same shit that is going on in afgan today. They do not sign security extensions we do not stay.

What a nonsense... "Bush the Great, came to us and take our natural resources, please. We need a democracy!". Occupation isn't an act of philanthropy. You speak as if somebody in Iraq asked Bush to organize the occupation and install a puppet government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10731708/Russias-Lukoil-opens-giant-Iraq-oil-field-adding-to-crude-glut.html

Russia's Lukoil has opened a giant untapped oil field in Iraq that will play a major part in driving up production to new highs in the Middle Eastern country and potentially force down the price of crude.
Spigots in the West Qurna-2 field, Iraq’s second-biggest, were opened officially over the weekend in a move that will release 120,000 barrels per day of crude oil onto international markets. The field in Southern Iraq near Basra will eventually pump out 1.2m barrels-per-day (bpd) of oil.

Those damn american companies drilling iraq oil for free:)

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 08:41:02 PM

Quote from: Welcome to the machine on June 10, 2014, 08:27:08 PM

Not surprised by this, after all the entire country is comprised of cowards.

They Won't fight, they drop their weapons and shed their uniforms when confronted but yet they are brave enough to stone women to death.

Cowards.

uh, good job generalizing a nation of people. america can do no wrong and iraqis are a bunch of freeloaders, right?

I didn't say freeloaders I said COWARDS every last one of them.

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Quote from: Welcome to the machine on June 10, 2014, 08:27:08 PM

Not surprised by this, after all the entire country is comprised of cowards.

They Won't fight, they drop their weapons and shed their uniforms when confronted but yet they are brave enough to stone women to death.

Cowards.

uh, good job generalizing a nation of people. america can do no wrong and iraqis are a bunch of freeloaders, right?

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Not surprised by this, after all the entire country is comprised of cowards.

They Won't fight, they drop their weapons and shed their uniforms when confronted but yet they are brave enough to stone women to death.

Cowards.

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Keep it dense, yeah?

Quote from: newflesh on June 10, 2014, 03:39:24 PM

All thanks to bush & blair and their cronies in the oil industry. These parasites should be locked up for war crimes.

Hear hear. What they started is an atrocity, just as 9/11 was an act of terror, so too should the decision to screw the UN and start bombing countries in the name of 'WMDs' and 'national security'.

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What are you talking about? I am just stating the facts lol
Fact Iraq did not sign a security agreement with the U.S. to extend security forces.
side note - The gov that voted not to sign the agreement was elected by the iraqi people, in essence saying they did not want us in that country.
Fact the same thing is about to happen in afgan if the new president of afgan does not sign the agreement.

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Quote from: RiverBoatBTC on June 10, 2014, 06:02:25 PM

It was not obama, it was the Iraqis that failed to sign a security agreement same shit that is going on in afgan today. They do not sign security extensions we do not stay.

What a nonsense... "Bush the Great, came to us and take our natural resources, please. We need a democracy!". Occupation isn't an act of philanthropy. You speak as if somebody in Iraq asked Bush to organize the occupation and install a puppet government.

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Quote from: RiverBoatBTC on June 10, 2014, 06:02:25 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 03:07:36 PM

wasn't this inevitable.. from the day that obama decided to withdraw troops? i'm not saying this is on obama though, but this is just the consequence of a very hard decision he had to make.

It was not obama, it was the Iraqis that failed to sign a security agreement same shit that is going on in afgan today. They do not sign security extensions we do not stay. Then everything reverts back to the way it was before we got their if not worse.

That and we have a few million more people pissed at us. Neither administration did us any favors in those wars.

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 03:07:36 PM

wasn't this inevitable.. from the day that obama decided to withdraw troops? i'm not saying this is on obama though, but this is just the consequence of a very hard decision he had to make.

It was not obama, it was the Iraqis that failed to sign a security agreement same shit that is going on in afgan today. They do not sign security extensions we do not stay. Then everything reverts back to the way it was before we got their if not worse.

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Glad to see all the money and mangled lives made a better Iraq. Roll Eyes

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The revolution will be monetized!

Well we broke Iraq into pieces then got mad and went home with our toys. What did we think would happen? This did not even happen in Iraq. This is Kurdistan. You may not know of Kurdistan if you live in the U.S. We like pretending it's still part of Iraq. but they have their own flag, money, government, etc. That split with Baghdad has made it easier to take Mosul.
Now ISIS (formerly part of Al Qaeda but deemed to radical) has control of vast areas near Al-Falluja. This is going to take many years to play out.

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All thanks to bush & blair and their cronies in the oil industry. These parasites should be locked up for war crimes.

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 03:07:36 PM

wasn't this inevitable.. from the day that obama decided to withdraw troops? i'm not saying this is on obama though, but this is just the consequence of a very hard decision he had to make.

it's been a known consequence since Alexander. probably past him

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wasn't this inevitable.. from the day that obama decided to withdraw troops? i'm not saying this is on obama though, but this is just the consequence of a very hard decision he had to make.

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Insurgents seize Iraqi city of Mosul as troops flee

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All key facilities are now controlled by the insurgents, including the airport and the prisons, said Nujaifi, who is from Mosul.

The capture of the airport, which had served as a major hub for the U.S. military, could not be independently confirmed, but Nujaifi said it had been seized and that all of the aircraft there also were captured.

Maliki is urging the United States to deliver more advanced weaponry, but ISIS fighters have already been seen riding round in U.S.-supplied Humvees in other areas they control, and much of the weaponry captured in this latest battle is likely to be American, Lister said.

The speed with which one of Iraq’s biggest cities has fallen under militant control is striking and suggests the U.S.-trained Iraqi security forces are even more vulnerable than had previously been thought.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/insurgents-seize-iraqi-city-of-mosul-as-troops-flee/2014/06/10/21061e87-8fcd-4ed3-bc94-0e309af0a674_story.html
Let's face it, it's not like this US trained Iraqi Security force would want to die for some false state of alleged democracy setup by some illegal war for the last decade. Geez, did these middle east wars get rid of the terrorists or summon up that much more of them? Way to go, Dubya!

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