Is a Bitcoin mining virus, more powerful than mining farms? - page 3.

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Quote from: newIndia on February 03, 2015, 07:23:13 AM

Quote from: goozman96 on January 16, 2015, 12:10:12 AM

A better idea would be a virus that infects a miner so that it mines towards your personal address. That'd be more economical.

Miners are mostly run by tech people. It is almost impossible for them to get infected en masse...

not to mention every virus will get caught eventually, you will see if you earn less instantly

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Quote from: Ninjahitoko on January 08, 2015, 05:25:24 PM

For example a Bitcoin mining farm might have a few petahashes of mining power. Will a Bitcoin mining virus network have the same amount of power?

No, it will not have, at least not for long.

One of the core principles of botnetting is stealthiness. you cannot afford a high pitched noise from GPU fans to give that away. There is the reason why so far discovered viral miners are targetting CPU mined Altcoins. The Bitcoin hashrate is allready outside of their reach.

Remember not to buy "CPU-only" Altcoins.

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Quote from: goozman96 on January 16, 2015, 12:10:12 AM

A better idea would be a virus that infects a miner so that it mines towards your personal address. That'd be more economical.

Miners are mostly run by tech people. It is almost impossible for them to get infected en masse...

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Quote from: michinzx on January 23, 2015, 02:00:19 AM

youd have to infect an insane number of systems for this to produce any substantial income, and the idea isnt new; ESEA for counter strike had a scandal where their client was mining bitcoins while running on peoples machines, and this was back when gpu mining was viable too

You can hire botnets if you know where to look. People use them for DDOS attacks and things like that. I'm sure it would be easy enough to get one to mine bitcoin instead. Then it is just a case of how much it costs versus how much it generates.

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In any network that has ASICs for some while, such a virus can mine only a very small quantity.
A virus can "make money" on the newer algos, where there are no ASICs yet. Less than a year ago such a virus was mining Dogecoin. Now Scrypt has ASICs too, so the virus writes have to check something else - X13, M7, ...

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I don't think so bitcoin mining is a virus!!

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Never heard of it

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youd have to infect an insane number of systems for this to produce any substantial income, and the idea isnt new; ESEA for counter strike had a scandal where their client was mining bitcoins while running on peoples machines, and this was back when gpu mining was viable too

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Quote from: goozman96 on January 16, 2015, 12:10:12 AM

A better idea would be a virus that infects a miner so that it mines towards your personal address. That'd be more economical.

I am sure that would be detected easily, once the miner sees no money in the address he is mining with.

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No.

There was a time when mining viruses were abound in the days of CPU and GPU mining. But ASICs are by magnitude more powerful than CPU or GPU, it would take an army of 10s of thousands of PCs to even begin to touch what a single ASIC machine can do. People complained about ASICs but one thing they did do was totally eliminate these viruses because they were no longer very effective. Those kinds of viruses went off to hunt other coins that are still CPU or GPU driven.

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A better idea would be a virus that infects a miner so that it mines towards your personal address. That'd be more economical.

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Assuming it could be written and not detected. It would pull either part of the cpu or part of the discrete gpu.

neither part does a lot of hashing. Say you bleed 10 percent of the cpu or gpu. maybe 50mh a pc so 20 pc's for 1 gh.

2000 pc's for 1th

2,000,000 pc's for 1ph.

not much more can be bleed off without detection.

So is it possible to make a virus that infects 2mill pc's sure. and if you are never caught you hash at 1ph. my guess is it would be found out quickly. since all the pc's would be dedicating a decent amount of cpu/gpu/watts to the mining.

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For example a Bitcoin mining farm might have a few petahashes of mining power. Will a Bitcoin mining virus network have the same amount of power?

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