Topic: Is African continent a cursed land? - page 2. (Read 559 times)
Africa is the mother of civilization as many of us know egypt is the birthplace of one of the oldest civilizations in the history of the world. Africa was a very developed country along the Nile including agriculture. The main auditorium of the mining industry was Africa, but later, when the founding of the Americans began they first introduced racism and were deprived of everything thus the continent of Africa gradually became a cursed land.
Given all of the above, Africa can change. It takes intelligence and bold moves on the part of their country leaders. All they have to do is get together and adopt something like the Constitution of the unites States, or whatever it is that holds the EU in place. The question is, are they up to it? Or are they going to continue to sell each other out for money?
The people might have to become smart and destroy their leaders to start this new type of nationalism.
The people might have to become smart and destroy their leaders to start this new type of nationalism.
they have been this ways since the time i learned about their country. nothing has changed over so many decades.
there is no leader that really has concerns to this land but if all of the leaders there can be unified and shall also commit to the development that is so far just looming in the land like the one belt one road of China, Africa might finally just find their way out of the curse.
there is no leader that really has concerns to this land but if all of the leaders there can be unified and shall also commit to the development that is so far just looming in the land like the one belt one road of China, Africa might finally just find their way out of the curse.
Despite having the most favorable landscape that is not tormented by natural disasters, they are lacking behind in term of development. They are endowed by lots of natural resources but hardly traceable to their mode of living, infact they are categorized as underdeveloped countries. Yes, indeed they are, due to the lack of the following:
I don't think Africa is a cursed land. The landscape might be beautifulm but it is definitely not favorable for growing things. There is a lot of heat and desert in Africa, which makes agriculture for basic food very difficult. It might be good conditions for Tea, Coffee or Bananas, but just he basics flower or rice is very difficult to grow. Just look at Egypt and how the people where only settle close to the Nil river thousands of years ago. The most important thing to develop Africa would be investments into education and infrastructure.
the problem is corrupt leadership and will continue for the next generation, if the chain is broken maybe we can see the development of Africa in the next few years.if indeed some of the plants like you said cannot grow, then they should be able to import it provided they also export quite a lot.
but in reality now people in Africa have minimal knowledge because of the actions of corrupt, selfish, and similar leaders.
Africa is a land of great potential, and many great projects are working to modernize it. For serious investors looking at Africa, all they see are incredible possibilities, and not a "cursed land".
An Eskimo might like Africa once he got used to it. But dump him there in a single instant, with his parka on, and he will hate it.
Europeans and Americans conquered many places in the African Land and tried to exploit a lot out of them. This is the reason why Africa is poor. They didn't want them to be free as there are a lot of minerals and crops in this continent.
If Africa was free, they will be dominant in the global economy.
AFAIK there is no territory in Africa still under colonial rule, many African countries gained independence some 50+ years ago and that's more than enough time for them to have developed their territories. Of course I know development comes with time, but half of a century is more than enough time to be on the path to achieving something good as a nation and in the larger picture, a continent, at the least providing a life worth living for their citizens.If Africa was free, they will be dominant in the global economy.
After 'outside' colonialism ended in Africa, a situation of "Africans colonizing Africans" began, and it is the product of failed/greedy leaders, After their hero's of the past struggled to attain freedom for them and they were then free, they should have taken the opportunity to make Africa great since they now ruled themselves. I wouldn't blame colonialism for Africas woes, but rather lack of good leadership and since this leaders still save their looted funds in foreign banks, pumping the economy of the Western world, whilst impoverishing their citizens back home, the light at the end of the tunnel is dimmer than ever for Africa.
You have nations made up of multiple nations which is difficult to govern and leads to corruption. Nations are being charged for debts owed to colonizing countries. The moment a leader like Ghadaffi tries to unite African nations and benefit the people, the colonizers come back to murder him.
Israel is the exact opposite. They were given wealth and military equipment by the UK and US and a free pass to invade the region and kick out the palestinians. They are still being given unconditional aid and support despite human rights violations.
proper question is..
is the african continent a costly land?.. the answer is yes
the issues with africa are not that the land is cursed. but that it costs more to develop on it
with lack of machine manufacturing it takes alot off time to create things to then develop. or it costs alot to import stuff quicker
the reason for this is because developed countries had the machinary and so just brung it along with them to africa and ripped up the resources and took the resources back out
so africa didnt gain anything.
if other countries came into africa and made the factories to then make the machines. then when the other countries left, africans could continue using the machines.
for instance america went to china and helped build china's infrastructure of factories. and now china is succeeding far more than america
so america/saudi/europe dont want africa to turn out like china's conversion to capitalism as that will then stab america/euro/saudi in the foot after
even now the 'humanitarian aid' which is the compensation for stealing resources is not to provide africans with land and jobs, but to keep them dependant on the other countries supplying them with daily amounts
is the african continent a costly land?.. the answer is yes
the issues with africa are not that the land is cursed. but that it costs more to develop on it
with lack of machine manufacturing it takes alot off time to create things to then develop. or it costs alot to import stuff quicker
the reason for this is because developed countries had the machinary and so just brung it along with them to africa and ripped up the resources and took the resources back out
so africa didnt gain anything.
if other countries came into africa and made the factories to then make the machines. then when the other countries left, africans could continue using the machines.
for instance america went to china and helped build china's infrastructure of factories. and now china is succeeding far more than america
so america/saudi/europe dont want africa to turn out like china's conversion to capitalism as that will then stab america/euro/saudi in the foot after
even now the 'humanitarian aid' which is the compensation for stealing resources is not to provide africans with land and jobs, but to keep them dependant on the other countries supplying them with daily amounts
Europeans and Americans conquered many places in the African Land and tried to exploit a lot out of them. This is the reason why Africa is poor. They didn't want them to be free as there are a lot of minerals and crops in this continent.
If Africa was free, they will be dominant in the global economy.
AFAIK there is no territory in Africa still under colonial rule, many African countries gained independence some 50+ years ago and that's more than enough time for them to have developed their territories. Of course I know development comes with time, but half of a century is more than enough time to be on the path to achieving something good as a nation and in the larger picture, a continent, at the least providing a life worth living for their citizens.If Africa was free, they will be dominant in the global economy.
After 'outside' colonialism ended in Africa, a situation of "Africans colonizing Africans" began, and it is the product of failed/greedy leaders, After their hero's of the past struggled to attain freedom for them and they were then free, they should have taken the opportunity to make Africa great since they now ruled themselves. I wouldn't blame colonialism for Africas woes, but rather lack of good leadership and since this leaders still save their looted funds in foreign banks, pumping the economy of the Western world, whilst impoverishing their citizens back home, the light at the end of the tunnel is dimmer than ever for Africa.
You have nations made up of multiple nations which is difficult to govern and leads to corruption. Nations are being charged for debts owed to colonizing countries. The moment a leader like Ghadaffi tries to unite African nations and benefit the people, the colonizers come back to murder him.
Israel is the exact opposite. They were given wealth and military equipment by the UK and US and a free pass to invade the region and kick out the palestinians. They are still being given unconditional aid and support despite human rights violations.
In Mauritania in NorthWest Africa, lies an ancient structure called the Richat Structure. It is partially buried in the sands. But over the years the sands have blown away somewhat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richat_Structure Here is a satellite view of the thing (false color).
Here is a map of the location in Mauritania.
The interesting thing is that the Richat Structure seems to match the description of Atlantis that Plato gave us. In addition, Northern Africa was once a green, lush, paradise of a land.
Personally, I think that Atlantis was the hub of the original civilization of the world before the Great Flood of Noah's day. I think that the Flood actually came on the Earth because of God's anger against the people of Atlantis, even though the rest of the world wasn't exempt from God's anger. This is the reason why Atlantis was lost in the first place.
When you study the time that archaeologists suggest that Northern Africa was green, they estimate it to be 5000 to 6000 years ago. The time of the Great Flood is listed by Josephus (34 - 101 A.D. Jewish Bible scholar) and the Septuagint (ancient Greek Bible) as being about 5000 years ago.
Here is a map of the location in Mauritania.
The interesting thing is that the Richat Structure seems to match the description of Atlantis that Plato gave us. In addition, Northern Africa was once a green, lush, paradise of a land.
Personally, I think that Atlantis was the hub of the original civilization of the world before the Great Flood of Noah's day. I think that the Flood actually came on the Earth because of God's anger against the people of Atlantis, even though the rest of the world wasn't exempt from God's anger. This is the reason why Atlantis was lost in the first place.
When you study the time that archaeologists suggest that Northern Africa was green, they estimate it to be 5000 to 6000 years ago. The time of the Great Flood is listed by Josephus (34 - 101 A.D. Jewish Bible scholar) and the Septuagint (ancient Greek Bible) as being about 5000 years ago.
It was one of the most richest empire in the world in the past, Did you know Mansa Musa? Probably he is the most richest individual until now but later their resources are looted by the betrayal from the other government's greed so the real cursed lands are the so called developed countries. 
But that's the way it always is. Even in the so-called developed societies, just look around. You can find Americans and Europeans who are dying from hunger and lack of proper medicine all over the place. They are being preyed upon by other Americans and Europeans, and even people from other countries.
Yes you have a good idea on this and
I want to take an exceptional view on this thread.
Anyway, I want to tie my response to ops titling of this thread as derogatory to Africans. Africans have produced so many great men and women, astute and well respected world leaders., poets alike example, Wole Soyinka and other Noble prizes awards. In medicine, Africans have been a huge export in support to humanity.
Africans are not bereaved of ideas that is to say. the challenge has been colonization, corruption and lack of structure/political will to mealt down punishment to persons in high places.
I read someone writing that natural disaster and location of Africa is the challenge but I don't succumb to that; location or where Africa is situated is not the challenge rather it is a blessing because raw material for production is found in commercial quantity in Africa.
Africa is a great continent. It will get there. America had independence in 1776 we need to know that. Bridges are not built in a day. We are still in the process. We are going to get there.
We all remember Martin Luthera quote ?
Keep hope alive for Africa.
Why your topic centers on either African continent being a caused land,
What would you expect from a people that have had it's people and culture savaged by a lot of other nations and with it's leaders to have learnt from the various lifestyle thought to them by colonial rulers which were basically based on acquisition. Of cause they learnt, passed it down through generations and it's not been easy to abort the bad seed just yet.
Like the underdog, Africa will be brought to the light one day and the world we appreciate it's beauty.
Despite having the most favorable landscape that is not tormented by natural disasters, they are lacking behind in term of development. They are endowed by lots of natural resources
Ironically, it still points out that the land is wealthy in itself. This means, the land has got nothing to do with the situations the African people face but the people has everything to do with it. This also points out that, the resources beneath and above the soil doesn't make a nation reach, but the ability of the people to convert that which they are endowed with to something valuable does. Again, what could be really expected from a continent that continues to be affected by the effort from the western world both past and present to ensure Africa remains what it seems to be now...What would you expect from a people that have had it's people and culture savaged by a lot of other nations and with it's leaders to have learnt from the various lifestyle thought to them by colonial rulers which were basically based on acquisition. Of cause they learnt, passed it down through generations and it's not been easy to abort the bad seed just yet.
Like the underdog, Africa will be brought to the light one day and the world we appreciate it's beauty.
Just remember one thing about Africa. In all the damage done to them by people from other continents, their own people did it to them just as much. They did it to themselves. The only thing left is to figure out why and how.
But that's the way it always is. Even in the so-called developed societies, just look around. You can find Americans and Europeans who are dying from hunger and lack of proper medicine all over the place. They are being preyed upon by other Americans and Europeans, and even people from other countries.
Africa isn't any different than other nations of the world... except, maybe, Singapore.
But that's the way it always is. Even in the so-called developed societies, just look around. You can find Americans and Europeans who are dying from hunger and lack of proper medicine all over the place. They are being preyed upon by other Americans and Europeans, and even people from other countries.
Africa isn't any different than other nations of the world... except, maybe, Singapore.
Colonialists essentially drew made up borders in a continent with some of the most diverse language and cultural heritage. Some countries are still plagued by civil war and lack of democracy. It's good that colonialism ended, but the world is still battling with its consequences.
Indeed, and not just Africa. Problems today in Syria, Iraq and the wider Middle-East are due to how the British and French agreed to carve up the carcass of the Ottoman Empire after WW1. Imperialism/colonialism casts a long shadow down the decades. Nations, lands and tribal groupings have been carved up with absolutely zero regard for any local considerations. Any then these nations leave without cleaning up any of the mess they created.
Colonialism leaves deep scars, and yes, even 50 years may not be long enough. Much of the instability in the Middle-East today can be traced back to the arbitrary divisions created by the British and the French more than a century ago, in the Sykes-Picot agreement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement).
Africa got majorly fucked over by colonial powers. Ever seen what Belgians did to Congolese people? Some major atrocities even in the 20th century.
Colonialists essentially drew made up borders in a continent with some of the most diverse language and cultural heritage. Some countries are still plagued by civil war and lack of democracy. It's good that colonialism ended, but the world is still battling with its consequences.
Colonialists essentially drew made up borders in a continent with some of the most diverse language and cultural heritage. Some countries are still plagued by civil war and lack of democracy. It's good that colonialism ended, but the world is still battling with its consequences.
I'm not expecting Africa to do that good between their time of independence and now; but obviously closing the gap is something they should have achieved somewhat. Colonialism doesn't end outrightly and the former colonial powers still have some form of authority in their former colonies only because the greedy African leaders let it be so
It's a fair point. I suppose my response would be that a lot of the problems are due to the way that colonial powers depart. They tend to just leave abruptly, rather than carefully managing the transition. This dramatic and sudden shift to a new society causes civil unrest and often a power vacuum. This sort of society is then much easier to exploit than a mature democracy would be. This is why we so often see the military sweeping to power in Africa, and once that happens it is difficult to establish any form of democracy.
However there are some signs of improvement. Wikipedia only lists two current military dictatorships across the continent, compared to a huge number in recent history:
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Current cases:
Sudan 2019-
Mali 2020-
Former Cases:
Algeria (1965–1976; 1992–1994; 2019)
Benin (1963–1964; 1965–1968; 1969–1970; 1972–1975)
Burkina Faso (1966–1980; 1980-1982; 1982-1983; 1983-1987; 1987-2014)
Burundi (1966–1974; 1976–1979; 1987–1992)
Central African Republic (1966–1979; 1981–1986; 2003–2005; 2013–2014)
Chad (1975–1979; 1982–1990)
Ciskei (1990–1994)
Comoros (1999–2002)
Democratic Republic of the Congo (1965–1997)
Republic of the Congo (1968–1969; 1977–1979)
Côte d'Ivoire (1999–2000)
Egypt (1953–1956; 1981-2011; 2011–2012; 2013-2015)
Equatorial Guinea (1979–1992)
Ethiopia (1974–1987)
The Gambia (1994–1996)
Ghana (1966–1969; 1972–1975; 1975–1979; 1981–1993)
Guinea (1984–1990; 2008–2010)
Guinea-Bissau (1980–1984; 1999; 2003; 2012)
Lesotho (1986–1993, 2014)
Liberia (1980–1986, 1990–1997, 2003–2006)
Libya (1969–2011)
Madagascar (1972–1976)
Mali (1968–1992; 2012; 2020–present)
Mauritania (1978–1979; 1979–1992; 2005–2007; 2008–2009)
Niger (1974–1989; 1996; 1999; 2010–2011)
Nigeria (1966; 1966–1975; 1975–1976; 1976-1979; 1983–1985; 1985–1993; 1993–1998; 1998–1999)
Rwanda (1973–1975)
São Tomé and Príncipe (1995; 2003)
Sierra Leone (1967–1968; 1992–1996; 1997–1998)
Somalia (1969–1976; 1980–1991)
Sudan (1958–1964; 1969–1971; 1985–1986; 1989–1993; 2019–present)
Togo (1967–1979)
Transkei (1987–1994)
Tunisia (1987–2011)
Uganda (1971–1979; 1985–1986)
Venda (1990–1994)
Zimbabwe (2017–2018)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#Africa Sudan 2019-
Mali 2020-
Former Cases:
Algeria (1965–1976; 1992–1994; 2019)
Benin (1963–1964; 1965–1968; 1969–1970; 1972–1975)
Burkina Faso (1966–1980; 1980-1982; 1982-1983; 1983-1987; 1987-2014)
Burundi (1966–1974; 1976–1979; 1987–1992)
Central African Republic (1966–1979; 1981–1986; 2003–2005; 2013–2014)
Chad (1975–1979; 1982–1990)
Ciskei (1990–1994)
Comoros (1999–2002)
Democratic Republic of the Congo (1965–1997)
Republic of the Congo (1968–1969; 1977–1979)
Côte d'Ivoire (1999–2000)
Egypt (1953–1956; 1981-2011; 2011–2012; 2013-2015)
Equatorial Guinea (1979–1992)
Ethiopia (1974–1987)
The Gambia (1994–1996)
Ghana (1966–1969; 1972–1975; 1975–1979; 1981–1993)
Guinea (1984–1990; 2008–2010)
Guinea-Bissau (1980–1984; 1999; 2003; 2012)
Lesotho (1986–1993, 2014)
Liberia (1980–1986, 1990–1997, 2003–2006)
Libya (1969–2011)
Madagascar (1972–1976)
Mali (1968–1992; 2012; 2020–present)
Mauritania (1978–1979; 1979–1992; 2005–2007; 2008–2009)
Niger (1974–1989; 1996; 1999; 2010–2011)
Nigeria (1966; 1966–1975; 1975–1976; 1976-1979; 1983–1985; 1985–1993; 1993–1998; 1998–1999)
Rwanda (1973–1975)
São Tomé and Príncipe (1995; 2003)
Sierra Leone (1967–1968; 1992–1996; 1997–1998)
Somalia (1969–1976; 1980–1991)
Sudan (1958–1964; 1969–1971; 1985–1986; 1989–1993; 2019–present)
Togo (1967–1979)
Transkei (1987–1994)
Tunisia (1987–2011)
Uganda (1971–1979; 1985–1986)
Venda (1990–1994)
Zimbabwe (2017–2018)
^^^ But, they have America and Europe whupped regarding Covid. They simply used hydroxychloroquine for malaria, and it saved them from Covid. Meanwhile, the devfeloped nations of the world flounder and die, because they won't follow the lead of that backward Africa.
It's true Africa might be backward in a lot of aspects, partly because if it's indigenous nations leaders and partly it's people but, Africa is sure to measure up in time.
The world is not a level playing-field, with equal opportunities for all. Africans start at a severe disadvantage, due in large part to historic injustices perpetrated by the West.
Of course the world isn't, and I'm not arguing that it is, the West have gone far ahead of Africa by every means possible, and I'm not expecting Africa to do that good between their time of independence and now; but obviously closing the gap is something they should have achieved somewhat. Colonialism doesn't end outrightly and the former colonial powers still have some form of authority in their former colonies only because the greedy African leaders let it be so, they most times need their support so their dictatorial powers in their country won't be checkmated and their corruption charges would only be stifled within their territories.We've seen what happened to leaders like Ghadafi who stood up to the powers in the Western world, if African leaders want their territories to be truly Independent, then they must abstain from excessive corruption, how can their territories be free from the authority of the former colonial masters when they send their looted funds over there to be kept in foreign banks, these Western countries know those funds are looted, but it's accepted and put into their economy, after recycling it for years, they expose and return it back, we've seen this happen countless times, that being said, the culmination of it all is that Africa's current state is cause of the high level of nepotism and corruption within.
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