Topic: Is anonymity the future for bitcoin??? - page 2. (Read 1119 times)

WOW 100% correct dude, but you are aware that MONERO is compromised right? Their encryption scheme was deliberately weakened by the NSA, so if they want, they can.

Even Zencash, (Z-family like you mention), not really 'anonymous' because if you mine, or run a server you must supply them a public address, so the z-addr(anonymous mode) are really only useful self2self, what good is that?

The problem is BITCOIN was compromised long ago by GOV(NSA,...) and that's why they will not give us real anonymity of in&out

The problem is all z-cash also has been compromised, hell even zencash is a US-NAVY-INTEL project, not unlike 4chan,

The problem here is that 100% of everything is compromised, and yet we're still told 24/7 here on this forum "You don't need to be anonymous', 'Only ppl who look at CP need anonymity'

Hell I can think of 10k reasons to be anon, one is a vindictive ex-wife, but the PC crowd that runs CORE would never let that happen, in fact they want to make it easier for vindictive wives to get 100% of a guys assets, ... blah-bah

Or like WIKILeaKS, it should be easy to give them money without your bank ( gov/irs ) knowing, but the fact is the system is wired so they know

Worst of all is the assholes on this site saying "It's ok to give up your anonymity, if you can get rich with BTC", this is like a horror movie "THEY LIVE", where people sell out other humans so they can be 'rich'.

Get your facts right. Bitcoin is decentralized because it is not controlled by a single "entity", not because its blockchain is transparent.

Plus it would be best to see spammers spam the right information.

and that noble purpose is what? TO screw retarded people out of their money?

BITCOIN early on, promised AUTONOMY, and now CORE says you don't need to be anonymous

Like all things that bitcoin was said to be in 2011, now turn out to be LIES, who would have guessed?

yes, anonymity will only be misused by irresponsible parties, therefore bitcoin does not need it,
bitcoin is created with a noble purpose, so that all is transparent, so anonymity is very contrary to the purpose of  bitcoin.

Bitcoin will never ever be private. And I am frankly disgusted by the fact the coins like Monero are not at #1 by now. I mean would you like to share all your Bank funds and transactions with the public. Bitcoin is almost like that. There are companies who specialize in tracking BTC and they pretty much can tell on what Exchange you bought your first BTC with Cash. Unless you made some local "private" transaction with some dude. And you did not admit it.

Yes there are "Mixing services" that glady take your money but its all just crappy patches for a flawed system. This is what especially got me angry and Craig Wright when he said he is against privacy because supposedly is only for kiddie porn people. What a Ahole this guy is. I mean I did not think he was Satoshi before but that sealed the deal for me.

I am actually not educated on what privacy things the BCH people plan or discussed to implement but there was something.

There are plenty of privacy coins out there, most have build in the ZeroCoin standard but AFAIK Monero is doing something different. And me following up in their history and stuff (not a expert at all) I think Monero is the best privacy coin right now. Serious dark markets use it for a reason. And no that is NOT a bad sign. Governments close in on  people even even in western countries now. One day we will probably all be happy do be able use private coins and say a big FU to goverments. And silly me thought that is what BTC was all about. Now its just a centralized mess controlled by a few mining pools. The sad thing is just how almost 1:1 linked all the alts are to BTC, stablecoins aside.

And what fucking coin has a shot at #1 fucking Ripple. A coin made for and by the fucking Banks. People have really learned nothing!

I dont think so. Anonymity is one of the feature of cryptocurrency, but not in bitcoin.
You can use mixer to make your bitcoin transaction anonymous though. There are few mixer advertise in this forum.
But i think bitcoin future according to satoshi is to become a future peer to peer currency, not to become an anonymous currency.

bitcoin is called anonymous transaction because in this case it is a digital currency. and unless someone knows about a bitcoin but most having a member of it all knows about bitcoin is used mostly exchange coin into money for a better future.

Everything that has any value can and will always be tracked by those with power. Bitcoin is unlikely to be an exception. Unfortunately it doesn't only go for fiat-to-bitcoin transactions.

YOU  [ as not WE, as in U ] can't see, but you can be sure that PALANTIR, and all the NSA/CIA contractors are tracking every bitcoin address from the point of purchase to the point of sale.

Any GOV that has access to the coinbase purchase/sale, and all the exchanges and all the ingress/egress of BTC, can track every single thing that person does forever.

Lastly, any corporation/gov that's willing to spend money, can BUY this information, that's why companys like Palantir are in business.

The anonymity of the bitcoin is one of the characteristics why people are patronizing it. It is true that we can see the transaction but we can't find out who is the sender and the receiver.

Anonymity is just one of the many uses of crypto, and anonymity does not apply to all areas. For example, in the payment process, I think that a clear payment trajectory is more conducive to the performance of the contract, and anonymity may lead to some breach of contract. The only best anonymous use I can think of is some services that require confidentiality.

As the bitcoin and cryptocurrency is introduced , bitcoin is a decentralized kind of digital currency and investments , so there is anonymity of the owner of this account in bitcoin ,because this investment is circulating in the internet or digital world , so if anynymity is maintain ,it would be good for bitcoin and cryptocurrency , so if it will be regulated by the government maybe it will have no anonymity in your accounts.

The original point of blockchain is transparency which allows for decentralization. For this reason bitcoin will be the gold standard for store of value. As a coin, there are better anonymous altcoins.

That isn't the goal for bitcoin, but other coins like Monero and Zcash have that goal... If you have some free time take a look to monero blockchain and you will see how weird are those zero transactions, you will see some addies sending zero monero to other addies, but that doesn't mean that transaction doesn't move money, that means the transactions is anon.

Guess not, Bitcoin will stay as it is, or at least other improvements except privacy. If people want anonymity there are other privacy centric coins available.

Its the ingress/egress problem, so long as you never buy or spend btc, your private,

As soon as you open an exchange, or trade, then THEY (GOV) has you,

You could of course pay cash on street for BTC, but the fact is unless your 'dead men tell no tales' kind of mobster, then its a public transaction, which means witnesses, buy/sell, ... but its still public

Again, why is that everybody has been busted? WHY? because companys like PALANTIR (NSA) track all bitcoins, even the mixers can't outwit the NSA

actually what is always recorded is not our personal data, so we still have privacy, this also makes us unable to be deceived and makes the authorities to detect money movements improperly, things like this do not make a problem for legal business actors, so the features of bitcoin has never changed and can never be changed, because each server fills each other and protects each other's data.

Note carefully that everybody who has used bitcoin for criminal activity gets busted.
Why is that ?

Because bitcoin can be tracked, bitcoin is not private, and the power that be, that controls bitcoin, wants to keep it this way,

I agree we need a private coin, and I agree there is MONERO, and zen, ... but there will be others, and there must be crypto's that are really anti-government, and not part of the government itself.

The entire reason that bitcoin is allowed to flourish, is a means to collection INTL tax on everyone

Note how we're always told here to go along with government regulation? At one point in time 'satoshi' was libertarian, but today he's a fascist boot-licker

I have opinions that are slightly different from yours. Bitcoin is becoming popular and many users because of anonymity which means providing extensive privacy to bitcoin users. But when withdrawing from bitcoin into fiat money on bitcoin exchanges, KYC information is definitely requested. Means that bitcoin users are not 100% anonymous.

Bitcoin is controversial because it is anonymous, only in complex code and stored neatly on an internet wallet so nobody knows. But when pulling bitcoin into fiat money we still have to enter an identity, so it's no longer anonymous.