Topic: Is banning weapons such a good thing? - page 2. (Read 1196 times)

Well, in the countries where we have statistically more crimes and killing usually is much more easy to get weapons legally.
Other example are Scandinavian countries like Sweden, Norway or Finland  where people can't get so easily weapons and they don't have so much crimes or killing like America.
Something to think about.
Of course, other factors are also important here.

I think that the conditions for the possession or carrying of weapons in people, their demands must be very high, among them, study very well the whole life of the individual and at least pass some very strict psychological tests.

The latest events of a terrorist nature, have greatly aroused worldwide commotion, I believe that some prohibitions will be equivalent to saving many lives, if we see it from that point of view, it is worth doing.

Nor can we lose sight of the fact that weapons are used as means of protection, whether for the individual or the family, therefore, new ways should be created to reduce the acquisition of weapons, because something that must be respected is the life of the innocent people.

^^^ But the idea that government thinks at all, is what government people want us to think.

What is government? Isn't government really just some paperwork?

Consider a State. All governments are called States by other governments at times. What is the state of the State? Isn't it only a state of mind of the people who are in government? This state of mind is written down, because people would forget what it was if it wasn't written.

So, Governments are States of mind of the people in the Government.

What this means regarding guns and weapons is, if Government wants to ban them, it is a State of mind of government people to ban them. And if we don't ban together and maintain a state of mind that we want, then we are not a self governing people.

Actually, these are some basic building blocks of civilizations, as long the drugs are mild and not too addictive i would add (concerning the drug aspect) and the greed limited in some way or another. As for ME ME ME - it's absolutely essential for a well greased society.

What is sad though, is when a government starts thinking of banning weapons, because the weapons the citizens use, are used almost twice as much to fatally self-inflict, rather than fatally inflicting the life threatening adversary (other than self).

^^^ There are loads of former military men and cops who, if they saw an armed attack on freedom, would fight the military in a way that the military wouldn't like.

In addition, there are many influential people - CIA, FBI, NSA, military - who wouldn't go along with a military takeover. The military would be shooting itself in the foot (or head) if they tried to take over the people.

In addition, the military needs the people to manufacture their arms, and continue to advance military science, for them. Watch the movie, "Colossus: The Forbin Project" - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/. Read the book. They are different - the book and the movie. But the result is the same. The military needs us... and we need them.

If we don't work for them voluntarily, they will end up like the U.S.S.R., dead. And then all kinds of other countries will attempt to take them and us over. They don't want that. Neither do we.

I still own guns in 9 mm and .308 calibers.  And to be frank, I don't need them.  The chances I would have to use them are pretty slim.

The only reason you would want to own a handgun or shotgun is for self-defense.  But in Canada, self-defense using a handgun would at minimum get you firearms storage violations plus a manslaughter charge. So I don't even think about using them in that situation.
Most likely you will get a 1st-degree murder charge if you kill an intruder in your home.

Long arms can be used for hunting.  Which I did when I was younger.  I killed many animals unnecessarily, I ate them all.  Skinning an animal is a very gruesome process and for what?  Meat that tastes like shit?  I think hunting is for idiots who just want to kill something.  Some 'hunters' don't even eat the animals they kill.  They just want the head trophies to compensate for their small appendages.

What guns are useful for is target shooting.  You can do that with air or 22lr handguns, no need for .45ACP handguns or 0.50 revolvers.
Rifle long range target practice can be fun and challenging as well.

I participated in IPSC and PPC competitions, reached top classifications in both, after that it was boring, the only change was the level of lead in my blood.  One of the reasons I had to stop the hobby.

So I can honestly tell you you don't need guns.

If you dream about defending yourself against the government, you might as well kill yourself with your own gun.  You stand no chance against SWAT or Navy Seals teams.  These people train constantly, are physically, mentally fit and can shoot better than most when shot back.
When 25-50 of such guys swarm your house and you point a gun at them, you will have 3 seconds to drop it or you are dead.

So forget about using guns for self-defense.  It is ok to shoot paper when the paper does not shoot back, just monitor your blood lead levels.

Note that crime syndicates tend to not be bothered with bans since they'll break the law anyway. I'm fine with people owning guns, so long as there are strict requirements on acquiring them (psychiatric exam, background check, etc), not what they have in the US where they buy it like candy.

Maybe other countries can look at how the Swiss handle their guns?

It doesn't go well with me. Its a damaging tool

Banning weapons won't work. Why? Because making weapons is too easy. The only way to stop all other people from making weapons, is to use weapons to do it. So, weapons can never be banned until 100% of people change from bad to good in their hearts.

The Leviathan is the sole authority that protect the right of everyone in the society so at that the ban of weapons from the general public is the best because it will reduce crime rate to it lowest minimum, if if everyone is allowed to carry weapon in the society there will be anarchy and crimes and manslaughter will be the other of the day.

The killing of both human and animals through gun is high and I am in favor of banning the used of weapons like gun and bum as this will drastically reduce the killing rate.

I don't think that we should ban weapons but have to regulate and control it.
Just compare Europe and USA, for example.
In America anybody can have weapons, without any control, and as results we have so many mass killings and shootings there.
In Europe we have much strict rules and laws about weapons.
People can have weapons but after some legal procedure, medical checking etc.
As result, there is no much problems with mass killings and shootings like in America.

I think you are right because as what I have known the reason why the weapon is getting ban because of the people who possess a gun could pull the trigger because of their emotions often feels. Without thinking of the outcome of what they do, they could kill people. Some also commit crimes and because of guns, they can dominate the people they want to scare or kill.

Banning weapons will be considered but if the person has the rights to own one, there must be an examination that will test their capabilities to use the gun properly. For example, is an examination for their psychological capacity and Emotional Intelligence, before they can own a gun, they must have a strong EIQ.

But who is going to do the banning and enforce the taking? Government people, right?

This means that you are trusting government people implicitly, because you are giving them the absolute control, right?

And there absolutely isn't any corruption in government, right? Especially the police when you can Google "police brutality" and get millions of hits, right?

For me banning must not be only in written as a Law but by action also,if the governments are truthful in every rules they created then the action should be implemented by using full force and resources to dismantle all the lose firearms from the regions.though we cant really have it all but atleast big percent will be taken from the people specially those irresponsible in having deadly wealon like guns

In my country having gun and our world is restricted to the personal who are in need of security in the emergency condition,normal citizen is not allowed to hold any of weapons like gun or fire powder.So it doesn't feel any bad if I am not having weapon,if there is a need just use knife.

Not all law enforcement people are tied into the gun control mob.


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I'm thinking that this is the way it will be for the rest of the country when the collapse comes. We might have a short window of opportunity between the crash and the actual phasing out of the dollar. bitcoin will go wild for a few days or weeks. Get several exchange accounts to trade bitcoins fast... now while you still have time. Then buy fertile land that has good water.

It's hard to apply. But if that happens, it's good.
 Countries that make laws that will reduce the rate of murder.

Its not the weapons that are good or bad or need to be banned.

Its the immoral subliminal brainwashing that is sprayed out on the masses that needs to be put to an end.

Greed, sex, drugs, power, money, ME ME ME - Its these messages that are causing the chaos in this world. Not weapons.

It is why there's a licensing for those people that wanting to have it. But illegal use can't be stop, there are people that keeps on putting the law on their hands and don't even want to obey what does the rule of law says. If the crimes are heinous on specific place, it must be put on a state of emergency and that place should be isolated by this kind of ban. It's hard to depict what will be the potential result of it, there's always good and bad side of it.