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If you have got the bankroll to handle it, and are not aversed to losing large amounts before recouping your money, then the Martingale strategy should eventually return players to parity.

Correct if you have the bank roll then you can give it a try. But, I would never recommend it to anyone as it might not work on most of the occasion. I have tried it multiple times and failed on most of the occasion.

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The doubling strategy doesn't always cause loss. It can get success when used at the right time as well as limits. However even with this we need luck to win, today morning I encountered to use this strategy. Luckily I got back the lost amount, because from the spending of 0.001 btc finally after doubling I went upto 0.03btc. Finally went all in, but luckily I recovered. Finally I didn't used the strategy with plan, but with frustration of losing. Here luck saved me, else loss is the end. Upon this strategies too help us if we're lucky.
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Unless the gambler has unlimited money, doubling the bet of the previous bet amount will kill the bankroll sooner or later. It is clearly proved by many single or group of gamblers in both real and online casinos, so having doubt will not make it a good strategy. The martingale strategy has been adjusted several times by the mathematicians in order to decrease the risk of exposing the last bet and keeping the profit higher than the profit of the first bet which will be the same on all sequences.
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Never and I literally mean NEVER consider anyone who says mathematically impossible is possible. When you are gambling on double down remember this, you bet 1 and you get 1.98 when you win, but you lose 1 when you lose, which means you are losing that small percentage each time, when you want to recover small by small you are actually losing more and more, and not really recouping back all your money.

This means overtime mathematically it is IMPOSSIBLE to make money with martingale, literally IMPOSSIBLE, if someone says it can be done, they are either lying or they are not aware that it is impossible. Sure you could make a quick buck in some tries and even maybe back to back days, but know that no matter how much you make a profit from it, ALL of that will be gone eventually because that is how house edge works.
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If you have got the bankroll to handle it, and are not aversed to losing large amounts before recouping your money, then the Martingale strategy should eventually return players to parity.

However, most casinos have limits in place which prevents players from doubling up after a certain amount, this is normally known as the bet limit or table limit.

For example, if you have already lost $50,000, but try to bet $100,000 as part of the martingale strategy, then you might come across a block, preventing you from making the bet.

In this case, it would be very difficult to recoup your money back with smaller bets, but it can be done.
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Well definitely because there is no fix strategy in gambling that would make you consistently win.
There's always an adjustment because if the gambling sites are losing, they will adjust as their purpose is to be profitable, and they are smarter than us.

It's good if we build a strategy on our own and develop it.

People forget that in gambling,,, strategies are not meant to keep you in profit, but to do two things:
1. Increase the time you have until you bust. So instead of busting in 1 move, you can have strategy that makes you bust at worst in 10 moves.

So hopefully, the idea is to make 8 or 9 moves, and then take home the profit IF you do not bust before reaching those 10 moves. That is all it really is all about! Martingale to profit before you martingale to bust!
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Would that make a huge impact to your funds? I haven't tried it so far, but for me, I don't that is really effective as if we lose, we aren't really going to win right after, because there is still a possibility of losing once again.

That would largely impact your funds.

If you are doing the betting with the strategy, I guess you could control that loss but when you are using a bot that I do with some of my faucet satoshis, it is quick to lose. As you said, the possibility of being in a losing streak is always there that you never know how long will you double up your funds and how long would your funds handle that, that is the problem there.
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To me, betting double after losing is a sign of desperation from the losers aspect.
And this is an attitude very conversant with a near addict of gambling.

We need to always maintain our calmness, either in profits or in loss.

That could be in most cases as when you double and you still lose again, you might think of doubling again until you will wipe out your entire bankroll and that is very frustrating. but for some, they know how to use this strategy so they are successful, but still not advisable for newbie as mostly their emotion is what they use instead of making a strategy to make it work.


Are there really people who are successful or consistently profitable with the strategy? I have probably seen few members who said they are successful with it... whether it's true or not I don't know. I guess it's a few time successes rather than being successful consistently?


Even though some of your members say that the method is successful, but it cannot provide guarantees for other members, it means that it is only luck that he can succeed in that way, because I often try other people's methods, but the results will not always be the same.

Meaning it's hard to be consistently successful (guarantee?) with the strategy or it's probably not possible to be consistently successful with it at all?
Well, I suspect the "random success" too but  randomness could be a bit lower with the strategy compared to normal bettings...but it's probably riskier.


The randomness is both killer and leverage for win/loss at the same time. The 8 times black number on the roulette table doesn't increase the chance of red number, no matter how many times the gambler has repeated the same bet over and over. Random success is temporary but having a pro gambler mindset is different.
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I agree, so the question in this thread is somehow difficult to answer because each of us had different experience using the martingale. Maybe rich gamblers are successful using it because they will never run out of money in a table without a limit and the risk are slower. Some failed because of a losing streak. So I think it is better to always assess the situation or think of a strategy that will better suit it.
True this. The Martingale strat works wonders if you have quite a big of money on the table since if you win just once, you can basically get the amount you lost quickly. No matter the amount, as long as you keep going, you'd sooner or later regain whatever you've lost. The logic is quite good tbh, and is understandable, hendce its popularity. But really, luck is something you don't understand using logic. It's called luck for a reason.
It is a profitable strategy - maybe you haven't tried it out yet.
You just have to have a huge amount of fund in order to follow this strategy or start with a small initial bet.
If one of those two terms is fulfilled then you will be about to make good money.
It isn't. Yea, if you have huge fund yes, but even starting with a small initial bet can without a big enough fund can cause you to lose pretty hard. It isn't really a strategy to follow up tbh. It's entirely based on luck and basically a forced pattern of you losing and winning depending on the amount of losses you've started with. It's not like your chances of losing is being reduced with each loss, so really, it's pretty useless.
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To me, betting double after losing is a sign of desperation from the losers aspect.
And this is an attitude very conversant with a near addict of gambling.

We need to always maintain our calmness, either in profits or in loss.

That could be in most cases as when you double and you still lose again, you might think of doubling again until you will wipe out your entire bankroll and that is very frustrating. but for some, they know how to use this strategy so they are successful, but still not advisable for newbie as mostly their emotion is what they use instead of making a strategy to make it work.


Are there really people who are successful or consistently profitable with the strategy? I have probably seen few members who said they are successful with it... whether it's true or not I don't know. I guess it's a few time successes rather than being successful consistently?


Even though some of your members say that the method is successful, but it cannot provide guarantees for other members, it means that it is only luck that he can succeed in that way, because I often try other people's methods, but the results will not always be the same.

Meaning it's hard to be consistently successful (guarantee?) with the strategy or it's probably not possible to be consistently successful with it at all?
Well, I suspect the "random success" too but  randomness could be a bit lower with the strategy compared to normal bettings...but it's probably riskier.

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I don't think that this technique will unless you are so damn lucky (you are carrying a real working rabbit's foot, four leaf clover and a horseshoe altogether  Wink). People are becoming a victim of this kind of behavior that letting the winstreak go over their head and thinking that there is a little chance of losing when in fact it is statistically high. In conclusion betting a double for a all or nothing is not worth the risk when you are gambling, remember you are playing for fun and that you win some and lose some, never mind people coaxing you to bet more, listen to yourself and play at your own pace.

It is a profitable strategy - maybe you haven't tried it out yet.
You just have to have a huge amount of fund in order to follow this strategy or start with a small initial bet.
If one of those two terms is fulfilled then you will be about to make good money.
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I don't think that this technique will unless you are so damn lucky (you are carrying a real working rabbit's foot, four leaf clover and a horseshoe altogether  Wink). People are becoming a victim of this kind of behavior that letting the winstreak go over their head and thinking that there is a little chance of losing when in fact it is statistically high. In conclusion betting a double for a all or nothing is not worth the risk when you are gambling, remember you are playing for fun and that you win some and lose some, never mind people coaxing you to bet more, listen to yourself and play at your own pace.
I'm sorry but if you never bet more, there is no point in playing dice. Because of the house hedge you can't win on the long run if you always bet the same amount.
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I don't think that this technique will unless you are so damn lucky (you are carrying a real working rabbit's foot, four leaf clover and a horseshoe altogether  Wink). People are becoming a victim of this kind of behavior that letting the winstreak go over their head and thinking that there is a little chance of losing when in fact it is statistically high. In conclusion betting a double for a all or nothing is not worth the risk when you are gambling, remember you are playing for fun and that you win some and lose some, never mind people coaxing you to bet more, listen to yourself and play at your own pace.
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Most of the time those gamblers who are trying to copy someones strategy losses a lot, thinking that because someone wins using the same pattern they will also have the same fate. Not everyone have the same outcome when they are playing maybe if a person got lucky when using martingale is not sure that the same thing will happen to the other gambler.
Well definitely because there is no fix strategy in gambling that would make you consistently win.
There's always an adjustment because if the gambling sites are losing, they will adjust as their purpose is to be profitable, and they are smarter than us.

It's good if we build a strategy on our own and develop it.

I agree, so the question in this thread is somehow difficult to answer because each of us had different experience using the martingale. Maybe rich gamblers are successful using it because they will never run out of money in a table without a limit and the risk are slower. Some failed because of a losing streak. So I think it is better to always assess the situation or think of a strategy that will better suit it.

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Most of the time those gamblers who are trying to copy someones strategy losses a lot, thinking that because someone wins using the same pattern they will also have the same fate. Not everyone have the same outcome when they are playing maybe if a person got lucky when using martingale is not sure that the same thing will happen to the other gambler.

That will not work if they only copy someone strategy because that strategy will only work for that person. He needs to modify the strategy so that the strategy can work well for him. But in gambling games, it is really difficult to get a win even if you get the best strategy and you modify it because gambling will need luck. But if you feel you can win those games, perhaps you can try to double the bet but don't try it too often because that will not guarantee to help you to win.
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Even though some of your members say that the method is successful, but it cannot provide guarantees for other members, it means that it is only luck that he can succeed in that way, because I often try other people's methods, but the results will not always be the same.
Exactly so even this strategy works for other gamblers it doesnt mean it will also work for you and can be a profitable way to recover what you lost. It will depend how lucky you are especially in dice game, I think I already use all my known strategy but no one works perfectly or atleast give me decent amount of winnings.
Most of the time those gamblers who are trying to copy someones strategy losses a lot, thinking that because someone wins using the same pattern they will also have the same fate. Not everyone have the same outcome when they are playing maybe if a person got lucky when using martingale is not sure that the same thing will happen to the other gambler.

I simply put in this way that if people who want to bet double in anticipation they will win it, but first should think that will they be fine emir they lose that double amount as well and if answer is yes and they want to risk that then  only they should be doing it else avoid such things beacuse not everyone has that luck to win it .
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Like in dice game when I bet and I lose I double it but depends on the situation because they have times that once you lose the second and third bet is also lose
Thats what you call a Luck base games in gambling so expect nothings New on that part and also Doubling the Next bet is normal but if you are doing this constantly so that means you are already addicted.
so better to timing when you double your bet after you lose because it doesn't mean that you lose now after it the second round you win.
Mind to tell us how to Find that right timing?seems like you already knew how to take it right?
Betting double of your money is good but it's too risky too.
Gambling is full of risk that is why if you cannot afford to lose then never try to gamble.
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Most of the time those gamblers who are trying to copy someones strategy losses a lot, thinking that because someone wins using the same pattern they will also have the same fate. Not everyone have the same outcome when they are playing maybe if a person got lucky when using martingale is not sure that the same thing will happen to the other gambler.
Well definitely because there is no fix strategy in gambling that would make you consistently win.
There's always an adjustment because if the gambling sites are losing, they will adjust as their purpose is to be profitable, and they are smarter than us.

It's good if we build a strategy on our own and develop it.
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Even though some of your members say that the method is successful, but it cannot provide guarantees for other members, it means that it is only luck that he can succeed in that way, because I often try other people's methods, but the results will not always be the same.
Exactly so even this strategy works for other gamblers it doesnt mean it will also work for you and can be a profitable way to recover what you lost. It will depend how lucky you are especially in dice game, I think I already use all my known strategy but no one works perfectly or atleast give me decent amount of winnings.
Most of the time those gamblers who are trying to copy someones strategy losses a lot, thinking that because someone wins using the same pattern they will also have the same fate. Not everyone have the same outcome when they are playing maybe if a person got lucky when using martingale is not sure that the same thing will happen to the other gambler.
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Even though some of your members say that the method is successful, but it cannot provide guarantees for other members, it means that it is only luck that he can succeed in that way, because I often try other people's methods, but the results will not always be the same.
Exactly so even this strategy works for other gamblers it doesnt mean it will also work for you and can be a profitable way to recover what you lost. It will depend how lucky you are especially in dice game, I think I already use all my known strategy but no one works perfectly or atleast give me decent amount of winnings.
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