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Quote from: Duzter on August 06, 2021, 06:54:13 PM

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It has been proven that bitcoin is a very profitable investment but also very risky, our money can go up or down tens of percent per month or even more, if we don't dare to take risks then never put money in bitcoin.

Big profit opportunities must be followed by big risks. If you don't dare to take risks, you may lose your chance. to be able to manage risk well, we must prepare a strategy, and a strategy can be prepared well on the basis of knowledge. Moreover, the crypto market is very volatile, if you don't have a basic analysis, it will be very difficult

To the risk people have profited out of it. For this reason we can say bitcoin is safe Haven. Maybe for now it hasn't attained the level of acceptance or the liquidity as gold. Things will change with time. So, without any discussion we can say bitcoin is a safe haven for our holdings.

Dont expect that much or become that hopeful for things that you do have in mind because nothing is assured that it would really happen in the future even though we do see its real potential but its not an assurance.
When it comes to investment world then theres no such thing about safe haven and we know that crypto is volatile on where it do comes to a point where its price could crash down to the bottom which might
really result into total wreckage if you didnt able to stop loss. Always consider on the risk and just be mindful on when to take profits.Rinse and repeat.

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Quote from: sapnu on August 06, 2021, 12:15:37 PM

In the future maybe, bitcoin can be considered as a safe have an is it gets more developed for everyone's benefit.

This includes a personal opinion on crypto, just like mine. I also think bitcoin will be a valuable asset in the long run. there is no right or wrong in this assumption. this is just a personal opinion. and it is very likely to happen and is not something that can only be imagined anymore.

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It has been proven that bitcoin is a very profitable investment but also very risky, our money can go up or down tens of percent per month or even more, if we don't dare to take risks then never put money in bitcoin.

Big profit opportunities must be followed by big risks. If you don't dare to take risks, you may lose your chance. to be able to manage risk well, we must prepare a strategy, and a strategy can be prepared well on the basis of knowledge. Moreover, the crypto market is very volatile, if you don't have a basic analysis, it will be very difficult

To the risk people have profited out of it. For this reason we can say bitcoin is safe Haven. Maybe for now it hasn't attained the level of acceptance or the liquidity as gold. Things will change with time. So, without any discussion we can say bitcoin is a safe haven for our holdings.

For long term investments, it is still better to opt for bitcoin other than hyped up coins. Because we know for sure, no matter what, bitcoin will have the market. Whereas, most alts will die down eventually esp if the devs decided to abandon their projects. This is why most crypto holders are sticking with bitcoin because you have no assurance with other alts. At least, with bitcoin, it has been tested and proven by time.

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Quote from: retnoanjani on August 06, 2021, 06:50:46 PM

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It has been proven that bitcoin is a very profitable investment but also very risky, our money can go up or down tens of percent per month or even more, if we don't dare to take risks then never put money in bitcoin.

Big profit opportunities must be followed by big risks. If you don't dare to take risks, you may lose your chance. to be able to manage risk well, we must prepare a strategy, and a strategy can be prepared well on the basis of knowledge. Moreover, the crypto market is very volatile, if you don't have a basic analysis, it will be very difficult

To the risk people have profited out of it. For this reason we can say bitcoin is safe Haven. Maybe for now it hasn't attained the level of acceptance or the liquidity as gold. Things will change with time. So, without any discussion we can say bitcoin is a safe haven for our holdings.

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It has been proven that bitcoin is a very profitable investment but also very risky, our money can go up or down tens of percent per month or even more, if we don't dare to take risks then never put money in bitcoin.

Big profit opportunities must be followed by big risks. If you don't dare to take risks, you may lose your chance. to be able to manage risk well, we must prepare a strategy, and a strategy can be prepared well on the basis of knowledge. Moreover, the crypto market is very volatile, if you don't have a basic analysis, it will be very difficult

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Quote from: dificanovi on August 06, 2021, 12:30:46 PM

I also think so, saving money on bitcoin is the right choice because bitcoin is decentralized and has a very good level of security.
Bitcoin is a very promising crypto currency, therefore we must have patience when the market is experiencing a slump in order to avoid losses.
Investors often benefit from investing in bitcoin as opposed to investing in gold or depositing money in a bank, which is why they say saving money in bitcoin is safer and more profitable.

the odds are good, but we still have to consider the risk factors. We all know that the price of btc is very volatile. so don't go all in, consider dividing your portfolio, make sure you also divide your basic needs for living and for investment, separate them well so you can be more comfortable living them. I always remind you that if you are ready to make a profit in investing in crypto, you must also be prepared to lose, many surprises that you could not even predict before. that's why I can't say that btc is a full save haven, because the risk is big due to its high volatility.

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I am not sure you can state it as safe haven. For me, Bitcoin investment surely has risks, not so different than another usual investment. But what makes Bitcoin different? It is about the chance to get higher profits, and even it can be earned in a short time. By the way, for those people who know well how to get big profits from Bitcoin and understand the right way to invest in it, the risk in Bitcoin can be minimized. But it doesn't mean to lose all the risks in Bitcoin. IMO, we must be aware that Bitcoin will probably be never a really safe haven.

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Quote from: sapnu on August 06, 2021, 12:15:37 PM

Bitcoin has a very volatile value that's why investments on it is very risky. If you are looking for a safe have for your money, bitcoin can still be considered as one as long as you know how. If you are looking forward on keeping your money without experiencing any loss, then you should go to the banks instead because when you invest in bitcoin, there will always be a chance thsmat you would lose some money and at the same time, gain if it is in a good shape. In the future maybe, bitcoin can be considered as a safe have an is it gets more developed for everyone's benefit.

It depends on the kind of safe haven you are looking for. If a safe haven in your eyes is strong value stability, Bitcoin might not be a safe haven for you, but if you are looking for an option to shift wealth into a system that is not subject to centralized control, Bitcoin could indeed be a very appropriate safe haven.

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I also think so, saving money on bitcoin is the right choice because bitcoin is decentralized and has a very good level of security.
Bitcoin is a very promising crypto currency, therefore we must have patience when the market is experiencing a slump in order to avoid losses.
Investors often benefit from investing in bitcoin as opposed to investing in gold or depositing money in a bank, which is why they say saving money in bitcoin is safer and more profitable.

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Bitcoin has a very volatile value that's why investments on it is very risky. If you are looking for a safe have for your money, bitcoin can still be considered as one as long as you know how. If you are looking forward on keeping your money without experiencing any loss, then you should go to the banks instead because when you invest in bitcoin, there will always be a chance thsmat you would lose some money and at the same time, gain if it is in a good shape. In the future maybe, bitcoin can be considered as a safe have an is it gets more developed for everyone's benefit.

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Quote from: jinneas on August 05, 2021, 11:05:36 PM

The characteristics of Bitcoin make it an extremely attractive investment. Bitcoin transactions do not require third-party authentication and can be free from the control of governments or banking systems around the world.
In times of crisis, people are uncertain whether banks can continue to operate, and confidence in the banking system or its government support often falls to the point of bank runs, and there is little reason to believe that banks will continue to operate. Bitcoin is global, so there is no reason to doubt that it will continue to operate. This means that if there is an economic recession, banks and governments will face solvency issues, making their services somewhat risky, and Bitcoin looks more stable. Bitcoin is outside the banking system, although its price fluctuates, cryptocurrencies can sometimes provide better long-term stability than real-world currencies that are more volatile.

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US Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell once stated that Bitcoin is a "speculative store of value" and Bitcoin investors are speculating on it as a store of value.

This is not to say that Bitcoin cannot play the role of a safe haven, but Bitcoin may not be a real safe-haven asset at this stage.

Will Bitcoin eventually become a safe haven for the banking system?
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/531238-crypto-regulation-sec-cbdcs/

By definition a safe haven is an asset that investors use to protect themselves when the economy is doing poorly or they believe there is going to be a huge economic crisis, and when we think about this it is obvious that bitcoin has become a safe haven and that is precisely the use people gave to it during this pandemic, it is silly to argue that it is a speculative store of value because every single store value still is subject to speculation, they are just trying to diminish the ability of bitcoin to perform this job by saying this.

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Quote from: jinneas on August 05, 2021, 11:05:36 PM

In times of crisis, people are uncertain whether banks can continue to operate, and confidence in the banking system or its government support often falls to the point of bank runs, and there is little reason to believe that banks will continue to operate. Bitcoin is global, so there is no reason to doubt that it will continue to operate. This means that if there is an economic recession, banks and governments will face solvency issues, making their services somewhat risky, and Bitcoin looks more stable.

I have always said that Bitcoin is a safe haven, but it is volatile. You shouldn’t store all your values in it, although I do know that it has shown tremendous growth over the years, if you check from the year one to now, it’s a huge difference, and the next year’s to come still stand a chance of being bigger than the years past (or maybe not).

If you’re investing in Bitcoin you should just bear in mind the risks that are involved. That’s not to say that it is the only risky investment there is, there are so many of them out there that fluctuates as well, in fact all of them. Gold might seem to be more stable, but it still fluctuates, it doesn’t stay in one position all the time.

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Research suggests Bitcoin was primary held for theorize propose in 2019. Bitcoin is often trade by frequent investors. After research it is risk to invest in Bitcoin. Some investors analyst it is safe haven asset Bitcoin is more volatile, less liquid and costlier to transect than other assets.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 06, 2021, 10:37:13 AM

No its not a safe haven as it's sometimes cannot guarantee a good results afterwards.. It just depends on the situation and the fact that bitcoin were very risky perhaps it's enough reason that its not eligible to become a reliable investment. Wherein no one can really say it's a ssfe heaven because of being unpredictable and skeptical as well.. Just my opinion.

That depends, I think in the long-term which sometimes what they meant with safe haven is, bitcoin can be considered a safe haven since it never showed that it will regress overtime and that it will only go up in the future, you must be thinking narrowly to say that bitcoin isn't a safe haven.

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No its not a safe haven as it's sometimes cannot guarantee a good results afterwards.. It just depends on the situation and the fact that bitcoin were very risky perhaps it's enough reason that its not eligible to become a reliable investment. Wherein no one can really say it's a ssfe heaven because of being unpredictable and skeptical as well.. Just my opinion.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 06, 2021, 10:04:15 AM

This has been a question that has been asked and discussed on this form over and over again, but I'll repeat my feelings on this question. When it comes to what a "Safe Haven" is, it doesn't necessarily have to be something that can't lose value. Gold is obviously the primary example of this. Gold certainly can and does lose value, yet it is considered the ultimate "safe haven". So yes I personally feel that it is a safe haven, but maybe not one as good as say Gold or Silver.

I interpreted OP to mean safe heavan as in the government can't come in and interfere with commerce, because he talked about asset transfer.

Either way, the answer I think the answer is yes. No, Bitcoin's value is not guaranteed, but neither is any other fiat currency. In fact, you can literally guarantee that fiat will lose its value because financial institutions purposefully target inflation rates to be elevated to discourage people from hoarding fiat. So if you're losing whatever cash value you have at 2-3 percent a year, Bitcoin certainly looks a lot safer if you look at the bigger picture.

Sure, someone that bought in 6 months ago before the dip is not very convinced - but as I always say, increase the time frame. Would someone who ditched fiat for crypto 3 years ago be one to complain? Nope.

Perhaps the hardcore crypto nuts might suggest that Bitcoin's price won't be as volatile with more adoption, but it's not really a good argument given the price swings when the whole world was beginning to dump their funds in crypto. Counter argument would be that the mass adoption was creating an unstable bubble, but regardless, bitcoin is as safe as it gets if you extend out the time scale and not focus on price swings that might extend over a few weeks.

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Quote from: dansus021 on August 05, 2021, 11:31:53 PM

i think there is bunch thread alike this. but in my opinion it always depen on you for long term run bicoin already proof that the value always up. but for short term you can see the volatility and looks not safe at all

Precisely, but still many aren't aware of this or, still thinking about the safety assurance that the crypto space could give to all crypto holders. Because whether we like it or not, Bitcoin and the rest of cryptocurrency can never be called a "safe haven" due to the market volatility. Well, you put some trust in investing in Bitcoin but talking about if we can assure that everything will be fine and profiting, it certainly depends on us.

However, we can still enjoy the moment while these things still exist, while the volatility is still there. Because as the moment has come that the market turns centralized, that will be another story.

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This has been a question that has been asked and discussed on this form over and over again, but I'll repeat my feelings on this question. When it comes to what a "Safe Haven" is, it doesn't necessarily have to be something that can't lose value. Gold is obviously the primary example of this. Gold certainly can and does lose value, yet it is considered the ultimate "safe haven". So yes I personally feel that it is a safe haven, but maybe not one as good as say Gold or Silver.

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I would say that Bitcoin can be a safe haven against many things especially the interference of the government and financial institutions. Now, a big objection for this categorization is the obvious volatility of Bitcoin as normally we associate safe haven to being stable like the real gold or maybe other investment vehicles. However, if you have to look at this digital asset against the many scenarios you mentioned...nothing then can beat Bitcoin though it remained to be seen how this asset can be performing in times of grave crisis on a global scale.

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Quote from: jinneas on August 05, 2021, 11:05:36 PM

The characteristics of Bitcoin make it an extremely attractive investment. Bitcoin transactions do not require third-party authentication and can be free from the control of governments or banking systems around the world.
In times of crisis, people are uncertain whether banks can continue to operate, and confidence in the banking system or its government support often falls to the point of bank runs, and there is little reason to believe that banks will continue to operate. Bitcoin is global, so there is no reason to doubt that it will continue to operate. This means that if there is an economic recession, banks and governments will face solvency issues, making their services somewhat risky, and Bitcoin looks more stable. Bitcoin is outside the banking system, although its price fluctuates, cryptocurrencies can sometimes provide better long-term stability than real-world currencies that are more volatile.

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US Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell once stated that Bitcoin is a "speculative store of value" and Bitcoin investors are speculating on it as a store of value.

This is not to say that Bitcoin cannot play the role of a safe haven, but Bitcoin may not be a real safe-haven asset at this stage.

Will Bitcoin eventually become a safe haven for the banking system?
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/531238-crypto-regulation-sec-cbdcs/

Bitcoin has withstood the test of time and show its potential over the past years which is why most people are really making it one of their options on where they will store and invest their funds with. Bitcoin, compared to fiat is lesser prone to inflation. Inflation has a very little effect on bitcoin that is why investors view it as a safe haven to put their assets on because if ever hyperinflation occurs, their funds won't deflate compared with having fiat only that could lose its face value the moment economy crashes and inflation occurs.

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