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Quote from: salmanahmedone on December 09, 2016, 10:53:58 PM

But using bitcoin for illegal is not good reputation in bitcoin industry.
Let us use bitcoin in good way though we can use it anonymously, we do not need to abuse it.

Tell that to those people that use bitcoin for illegal activities and they will only laugh at you. Even if you open up an organization for that, it wouldn't make any difference and everyone will just think you're pathetic. Catching the bad guys is the only way you can stop them.

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Quote from: xavier77 on December 09, 2016, 03:18:40 PM

Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

currently quite difficult to make a report to the websites. many rules that have not understood that we were quite difficult. one of them indeed are doing the blocking of a website. usually the government of a country authorized by it.

how to know that the drugs? maybe that will deny have been selling drugs. we can only report there is a possibility of illegal acts and It will also adversely affect the bitcoin

The government are making the right action to arrest anyone who are doing illegal activities such us illegal drug trade, we might think we are hard to find but they have the resources to carry out their mission and they will act to arrest us for unlawful act only if they have enough evidence.

Depends on your government. I don't think the government will be able to trace you if you know what you're doing. The government will also not pay a cyber army tons of money just to trace you unless you're running a huge drug business.

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Quote from: Positid on December 09, 2016, 10:42:43 PM

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Quote from: xavier77 on December 09, 2016, 03:18:40 PM

Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

currently quite difficult to make a report to the websites. many rules that have not understood that we were quite difficult. one of them indeed are doing the blocking of a website. usually the government of a country authorized by it.

how to know that the drugs? maybe that will deny have been selling drugs. we can only report there is a possibility of illegal acts and It will also adversely affect the bitcoin

The government are making the right action to arrest anyone who are doing illegal activities such us illegal drug trade, we might think we are hard to find but they have the resources to carry out their mission and they will act to arrest us for unlawful act only if they have enough evidence.

But using bitcoin for illegal is not good reputation in bitcoin industry.
Let us use bitcoin in good way though we can use it anonymously, we do not need to abuse it.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on December 09, 2016, 08:23:02 PM

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Quote from: xavier77 on December 09, 2016, 03:18:40 PM

Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

currently quite difficult to make a report to the websites. many rules that have not understood that we were quite difficult. one of them indeed are doing the blocking of a website. usually the government of a country authorized by it.

how to know that the drugs? maybe that will deny have been selling drugs. we can only report there is a possibility of illegal acts and It will also adversely affect the bitcoin

The government are making the right action to arrest anyone who are doing illegal activities such us illegal drug trade, we might think we are hard to find but they have the resources to carry out their mission and they will act to arrest us for unlawful act only if they have enough evidence.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on December 09, 2016, 07:36:51 PM

Quote from: xavier77 on December 09, 2016, 03:18:40 PM

Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

currently quite difficult to make a report to the websites. many rules that have not understood that we were quite difficult. one of them indeed are doing the blocking of a website. usually the government of a country authorized by it.

how to know that the drugs? maybe that will deny have been selling drugs. we can only report there is a possibility of illegal acts and It will also adversely affect the bitcoin

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Quote from: xavier77 on December 09, 2016, 03:18:40 PM

Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

currently quite difficult to make a report to the websites. many rules that have not understood that we were quite difficult. one of them indeed are doing the blocking of a website. usually the government of a country authorized by it.

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Bitcoin is not anonymous. Every transaction made can be traced from the sender to the receiver. Transactions are stored publicly and permanently on the Blockchain network. The only anonymous thing is the user's identity, but the identity of users can be revealed through their IP addresses as they can be logged. That's why users are being advised to hide their IP addresses using a service like TOR.

Apparently, the noobs who are crying about Bitcoin being used for illegal activities due to its anonymity and the noobs who are using it for illegal purposes, didn't read the fourth title on the introduction page of Bitcoin official website. (and don't think that governments don't have the proper tools and equipments to trace those "illegal dealers", you know the media, they always love excuses)

Here is the link: https://bitcoin.org/en/you-need-to-know

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Quote from: richardsNY on December 09, 2016, 06:33:50 PM

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Quote from: Victorycoin on December 06, 2016, 04:27:21 PM

Yes bitcoin is being used for illegal activities! Can anyone show us any currency that is never used
for illegal activities? The truth is that bitcoin just came on board, but those activities have always been with us!

Yes, many people uses bitcoin for illegal uses like dee web because of its anonimity of the user unlike using bank transaction
your identity can be traced in just one click.

People using Bitcoin as currency for whatever purpose in the deep web doesn't mean they are fully anonymous. If you withdraw coins from the exchange you verified yourself at with all your personal details, then the coins you have withdrawn from your exchange will have these details attached to it. If you directly spend these coins in the deep web without letting them go through a mixer, then it's obvious that your anonymity is gone. That's why you should always mix your coins first.

Only a noob will use bitcoin to deepweb without going it to mixer first. An expert will definitely do this. If you use botcoin in deepweb without using a mixer first there is a high chance that maybe tomorrow police or fbi will knock your door. People that use bitcoin in deepweb are most likely criminals like hired killers or drug dealers.

You'll be surprised when you know how many dealers and people buying weapons without mixing their coins get busted. The main problem here is that people take the level of anonymity for granted. Bitcoin is semi anonymous, and not totally anonymous as some people may think. In that matter, yes, they are noobs for doing and thinking like so.

The ip address who are using the address it is still recorded this is what i think that is why they are still trace this s what i heard few weeks ago that someone can be still trace if you did not use the bitcoin mixer.. bitcoin mixer is giving to be more anonymous all your transactions..
I am planning to try torwallet but i heard many reviews about it they are giving a good anonymous transaction and built in bitcoin mixer since i heard some issue i stop planning to use it..

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Quote from: xSkylarx on December 09, 2016, 10:17:11 AM

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Quote from: Victorycoin on December 06, 2016, 04:27:21 PM

Yes bitcoin is being used for illegal activities! Can anyone show us any currency that is never used
for illegal activities? The truth is that bitcoin just came on board, but those activities have always been with us!

Yes, many people uses bitcoin for illegal uses like dee web because of its anonimity of the user unlike using bank transaction
your identity can be traced in just one click.

People using Bitcoin as currency for whatever purpose in the deep web doesn't mean they are fully anonymous. If you withdraw coins from the exchange you verified yourself at with all your personal details, then the coins you have withdrawn from your exchange will have these details attached to it. If you directly spend these coins in the deep web without letting them go through a mixer, then it's obvious that your anonymity is gone. That's why you should always mix your coins first.

Only a noob will use bitcoin to deepweb without going it to mixer first. An expert will definitely do this. If you use botcoin in deepweb without using a mixer first there is a high chance that maybe tomorrow police or fbi will knock your door. People that use bitcoin in deepweb are most likely criminals like hired killers or drug dealers.

You'll be surprised when you know how many dealers and people buying weapons without mixing their coins get busted. The main problem here is that people take the level of anonymity for granted. Bitcoin is semi anonymous, and not totally anonymous as some people may think. In that matter, yes, they are noobs for doing and thinking like so.

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Quote from: xavier77 on December 09, 2016, 03:18:40 PM

Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

Even before the advent of money people have been engaging with all sort of illegal activities not to talk of now we have money which could even be traced then people resort to the use of cash to avoid trace and carry out their illegal activities. Now we have another form of money which then promised cash could not offer as a result of the trace. Why would people not engage in such to carry out their illegal activities. Although I dont have evidence but I am sure its not impossible.

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Quote from: FLoving on December 09, 2016, 03:19:08 PM

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i do not think that bitcoin will be use for illegal activity because bitcoin is crypto currency and crypto currency can be use for online shopping and now we can buy online product through bitcoin and bitcoin is really too much modern and stronger currency.

you are right there is no way to use bitcoin for illegal activity and i can just use my bitcoin for online shopping like i buying mobile phone and computer etc so we can not use bitcoin for illegal activity because bitcoin is digital currency.

Maybe in your country it is not used for any illegal activity like in my country. here in my country only well educated people know about bitcoin and they are well respected personalities of my country. But when I search on web I find that some of the people are taking benefit of its anonymity and are using bitcoin as a source for continuing their illegal activities.

People really wants privacy to hide their secret from others, no more no less. But that being said the anonymity of crypto currency can be a beneficiary to this kind of people, it's just a matter of choice if you will do good or bad things.

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Quote from: lakisis on December 09, 2016, 02:18:06 PM

Quote from: Ewinsane on December 06, 2016, 04:46:56 PM

i do not think that bitcoin will be use for illegal activity because bitcoin is crypto currency and crypto currency can be use for online shopping and now we can buy online product through bitcoin and bitcoin is really too much modern and stronger currency.

you are right there is no way to use bitcoin for illegal activity and i can just use my bitcoin for online shopping like i buying mobile phone and computer etc so we can not use bitcoin for illegal activity because bitcoin is digital currency.

Maybe in your country it is not used for any illegal activity like in my country. here in my country only well educated people know about bitcoin and they are well respected personalities of my country. But when I search on web I find that some of the people are taking benefit of its anonymity and are using bitcoin as a source for continuing their illegal activities.

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Yes there are some drug sites which use bitcoins as a a way of payment . Someone must report against those sites which will help in the growth of bitcoins . We support bitcoins and i think it must not be used in illegal activities .

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Its funny how the media keeps attacking bitcoin, since the first day media are trying to kill crypto currencies, something that is out of control of someone, they are scared what crypto might turn over the years. Because we all know fiat is used for several years into the ilegal activities and they arent able to stop, or atleast doesnt care to make it end. They are taking the heavy that fiat has into bitcoin, soo now just bitcoin is used for those bad things that money does allow people to do.

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Quote from: Ewinsane on December 06, 2016, 04:46:56 PM

i do not think that bitcoin will be use for illegal activity because bitcoin is crypto currency and crypto currency can be use for online shopping and now we can buy online product through bitcoin and bitcoin is really too much modern and stronger currency.

you are right there is no way to use bitcoin for illegal activity and i can just use my bitcoin for online shopping like i buying mobile phone and computer etc so we can not use bitcoin for illegal activity because bitcoin is digital currency.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on December 09, 2016, 10:17:11 AM

Quote from: richardsNY on December 08, 2016, 03:09:48 PM

Quote from: salmanahmedone on December 08, 2016, 12:21:51 PM

Quote from: Victorycoin on December 06, 2016, 04:27:21 PM

Yes bitcoin is being used for illegal activities! Can anyone show us any currency that is never used
for illegal activities? The truth is that bitcoin just came on board, but those activities have always been with us!

Yes, many people uses bitcoin for illegal uses like dee web because of its anonimity of the user unlike using bank transaction
your identity can be traced in just one click.

People using Bitcoin as currency for whatever purpose in the deep web doesn't mean they are fully anonymous. If you withdraw coins from the exchange you verified yourself at with all your personal details, then the coins you have withdrawn from your exchange will have these details attached to it. If you directly spend these coins in the deep web without letting them go through a mixer, then it's obvious that your anonymity is gone. That's why you should always mix your coins first.

Only a noob will use bitcoin to deepweb without going it to mixer first. An expert will definitely do this. If you use botcoin in deepweb without using a mixer first there is a high chance that maybe tomorrow police or fbi will knock your door. People that use bitcoin in deepweb are most likely criminals like hired killers or drug dealers.

You are correct on that but if everyone in the dark web is using mixers for that reason, when you mix your coins, wouldn’t you end up with coins from another person that also did some illegal trades and the police will still be looking for the one in possession of those coins?

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Quote from: fuathan3 on December 06, 2016, 06:47:11 PM

Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, and cash all serve as opportunities for criminals as well, but society keeps them around due to their recognized net benefit. so using bitcoin on illegal activities will not harm bitcoin as much media controlled by government.

Bitcoin is the scape goat there and it's sole crime is that, it shuts the government and it's agents out of it's operations and that is a nightmare for the government and they seem to have ran short of ideas, so they are taking to blackmailing and brute force, but all that is like water on the back of a duck.

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Quote from: richardsNY on December 08, 2016, 03:09:48 PM

Quote from: salmanahmedone on December 08, 2016, 12:21:51 PM

Quote from: Victorycoin on December 06, 2016, 04:27:21 PM

Yes bitcoin is being used for illegal activities! Can anyone show us any currency that is never used
for illegal activities? The truth is that bitcoin just came on board, but those activities have always been with us!

Yes, many people uses bitcoin for illegal uses like dee web because of its anonimity of the user unlike using bank transaction
your identity can be traced in just one click.

People using Bitcoin as currency for whatever purpose in the deep web doesn't mean they are fully anonymous. If you withdraw coins from the exchange you verified yourself at with all your personal details, then the coins you have withdrawn from your exchange will have these details attached to it. If you directly spend these coins in the deep web without letting them go through a mixer, then it's obvious that your anonymity is gone. That's why you should always mix your coins first.

Only a noob will use bitcoin to deepweb without going it to mixer first. An expert will definitely do this. If you use botcoin in deepweb without using a mixer first there is a high chance that maybe tomorrow police or fbi will knock your door. People that use bitcoin in deepweb are most likely criminals like hired killers or drug dealers.

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Quote from: bitcoin110011 on February 06, 2016, 07:11:09 AM

I see more and more acrticles of bitcoin being used for illegal activities
will this hurt bitcoin in the long run , will governments ban this just like they started to do wih paying in cash for some services
to harden the use of illegal , and money laundering

It's not just the bitcoin that is being used for illegal activities, but tell me which currency isn't used for this purpose?
Unfortunately, bitcoin is getting spread very fast through ransomware and this is affecting public institution like hospitals, stations etc.

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Quote from: salmanahmedone on December 08, 2016, 12:21:51 PM

Quote from: Victorycoin on December 06, 2016, 04:27:21 PM

Yes bitcoin is being used for illegal activities! Can anyone show us any currency that is never used
for illegal activities? The truth is that bitcoin just came on board, but those activities have always been with us!

Yes, many people uses bitcoin for illegal uses like dee web because of its anonimity of the user unlike using bank transaction
your identity can be traced in just one click.

People using Bitcoin as currency for whatever purpose in the deep web doesn't mean they are fully anonymous. If you withdraw coins from the exchange you verified yourself at with all your personal details, then the coins you have withdrawn from your exchange will have these details attached to it. If you directly spend these coins in the deep web without letting them go through a mixer, then it's obvious that your anonymity is gone. That's why you should always mix your coins first.

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Quote from: fuathan3 on December 06, 2016, 06:47:11 PM

Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, and cash all serve as opportunities for criminals as well, but society keeps them around due to their recognized net benefit. so using bitcoin on illegal activities will not harm bitcoin as much media controlled by government.

the marketing of visa, mastercard, paypal etc is bettter and people feel like "this is an honest company" and the technology is safe and good. some bad people try to take advantage, but this is what bad people do. bitcoin does not have this marketing and is not a company, so people with no clue will always blame bitcoin itself, because someone must be to blame and it sure as hell will not be their own fault.

I think you nailed this is a problem of public relations, the problem is we cannot spent the money those companies do in marketing since there is not a CEO or someone with the absolute authority to do so because of the way bitcoin is designed and since that is not going to change then the trust in bitcoin will raise very slowly.

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