Is Bitcoin going to be part of "Web 3.0?"

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Quote from: keithers on July 14, 2014, 02:29:40 AM

I've never heard of blogs,etc being known as web 2.0. What was web 1.0? I think BTC is in a league of its own because it opens up possibilities with money and the internet that was literally only a dream before

Web 1.0 was telnet and ssh .. maybe smtp.
web 2.0 was html
web 3.0 who the fuck knows..

i just made that shit up

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Keep it dense, yeah?

The Bitcoin protocol is by definition part of what Web 3.0 is all about. The ability for a network to confirm transactions by consensus, rather than authority thus removing distrust and central abuse.

Of course there are limitations to do with the computational dominance posed by pools, but that is being worked on.

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Quote from: AliceWonder on July 14, 2014, 10:51:56 AM

Oh but it is a marketing term. And same deal with cloud.

Before we had a "cloud" we had tech like webDAV and IMAP and distributed computing (remember seti@home ?) etc. that did much the same thing, just didn't call it "the cloud"

I do remember seti@home and it was a bit different since it used spare computing power on home computers. "The cloud" is mostly networked computers in large data centers.

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We will have to think even more about bitcoin as a protocol (which it is, of course), but more in the realms as some mechanism that works in the back of certain services. After all, it is the only open means of transacting money without the need of intermediaries and a centralized authority. As a backbone for higher-level services this may be very useful!

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Oh but it is a marketing term. And same deal with cloud.

Before we had a "cloud" we had tech like webDAV and IMAP and distributed computing (remember seti@home ?) etc. that did much the same thing, just didn't call it "the cloud"

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Quote from: IIOII on July 14, 2014, 10:34:11 AM

It makes absolutely no sense to use versioning in regard to the web, because there is no central entity that updates all webpages to a single new version. Moreover there is no clear definition of the meaning of "Web 2.0".

To an extant I agree but there is a marked difference between the web before and after pages were able to communicate with a server without forcing a reload.

These new features (XHR etc.) aren't available in older browsers, it is a marked difference in the capabilities of browsers.
Not all pages make use of those features (thankfully, it often is overdone) but the ability is there, and that's what makes it "Web 2.0" - it is radically different from the days of IE/Netscape 4.0 browsers

I don't like all the changes but it is a radically different user experience now.

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Quote from: rapport on July 14, 2014, 01:44:52 AM

DNS is a key part of the usability of the web (rather than just the Internet); a decentralized DNS will be a key to the decentralized web.

Yes, and not just DNS but SSL certs. Centralized certificate authorities have been shown to be an exploitable failure. Namecoin I believe will solve the problem.

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Quote from: R2D221 on July 13, 2014, 02:00:56 PM

Just remember that Internet and the Web are two different things. Bitcoin itself works on the Internet, but not on the Web.

Moreover, I think the “Web 2.0” is just a marketing gimmick with no real meaning.

I agree. It makes absolutely no sense to use versioning in regard to the web, because there is no central entity that updates all webpages to a single new version. Moreover there is no clear definition of the meaning of "Web 2.0".

I don't care whether some marketing guys categorize Bitcoin as "Web 3.0" or not. What I know is that Bitcoin is the future. That's what's relevant.

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Quote from: keithers on July 14, 2014, 02:29:40 AM

I've never heard of blogs,etc being known as web 2.0. What was web 1.0? I think BTC is in a league of its own because it opens up possibilities with money and the internet that was literally only a dream before

1.0 was basically just a static page that wasn't interactive. Like you could click on links, but that was about it..... at least that's how I understand it.

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I've never heard of blogs,etc being known as web 2.0. What was web 1.0? I think BTC is in a league of its own because it opens up possibilities with money and the internet that was literally only a dream before

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Quote from: AliceWonder on July 13, 2014, 02:38:29 PM

AJAX was web 2.0 - AJAX is what allowed web sites to truly be interactive and get around the limitations of a stateless protocol.

bitcoin I don't think has any effect on the web, but rather, on financial transactions and monetary systems. Bitcoin uses the Internet, but Internet != web.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web

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The World Wide Web (abbreviated as WWW or W3,[1] commonly known as the Web) is a system of interlinked hypertext documents that are accessed via the Internet.

DNS is a key part of the usability of the web (rather than just the Internet); a decentralized DNS will be a key to the decentralized web.

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AJAX was web 2.0 - AJAX is what allowed web sites to truly be interactive and get around the limitations of a stateless protocol.

bitcoin I don't think has any effect on the web, but rather, on financial transactions and monetary systems. Bitcoin uses the Internet, but Internet != web.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web

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The World Wide Web (abbreviated as WWW or W3,[1] commonly known as the Web) is a system of interlinked hypertext documents that are accessed via the Internet.

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Quote from: jubalix on July 13, 2014, 08:29:41 AM

web 2.0 whatever that even means, in fact the internet as we know it may not exist post BTC tech.

BTC tech allow a completely different sort of organization through decentralization and how to vote / pay for things.

the main thing holding it back to data size, but things like maid safe and NXT tech may see to that as well.

Would it be fair to say, then, that Bitcoin could cause people to reconsider the ways that they traditionally think of money and the financial system? Or that Bitcoin is simply an adaptation of money and/or economic systems to the digital age?

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Just remember that Internet and the Web are two different things. Bitcoin itself works on the Internet, but not on the Web.

Moreover, I think the “Web 2.0” is just a marketing gimmick with no real meaning.

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'Web 3.0' has been cancelled since the Internet wasn't supposed to have version numbers.
I believe the next big thing is called DoggieWeb. Cheesy

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Quote from: Lauda on July 13, 2014, 06:57:14 AM

Quote from: bitjoint on July 12, 2014, 10:05:43 PM

Bitcoin 2.0 technology is the web 3.0

And we have a winner. Bitcoin is the future.

Prove it by sending 1 BTC to my address.

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Some interesting insights, fellas. I have heard that the original designers of the Internet included protocols that could have been used for handling anything that required a financial transaction, but those protocols didn't get used very much because, basically, cryptocurrencies didn't exist yet.

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Bitcoin is the answer to stupid buzzwords and marketing gimmicks like "web 2.0". It has enough substance and purpose to transcend silly jargon that, when translated back into English, usually means "horrible interface or layout" for the sake of looking sleek and minimalist. The equivalent of a shallow, attention-seeking fashion statement. As far as I can tell, that's all web 2.0 ever actually meant in practice. Bitcoin has practical and tangible applications that benefit users and outclasses existing legacy services.

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web 2.0 whatever that even means, in fact the internet as we know it may not exist post BTC tech.

BTC tech allow a completely different sort of organization through decentralization and how to vote / pay for things.

the main thing holding it back to data size, but things like maid safe and NXT tech may see to that as well.

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