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April 13, 2018, 01:32:37 AM
#51
They manage to manipulate because of those people who can't find time to understand their investment, if they just know how the market works then manipulation can't be done easily, bitcoin is another way of investment yet also a currency that can be usable for those who knows how to use it for their
benefits, if all of us who followed and use bitcoin will use it accordingly, then this manipulation will not be tolerated, we can't deny the fact that this is
really happening but soon it will be removed.
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April 13, 2018, 01:10:31 AM
#50
Ofcourse it's manipulated, that's what whales do. They can move the market significantly in no time. Up and down.

Or look at the volatility, having double digit % raises and falls in a day means it can still be easily manipulated. But it's getting harder every day as the market matures.
When we observe the market it is manipulated others do this to manipulate the market for them to have the profit. It is always volatile which really grab by many were they can trades on the price expected. So most should expects it can happen daily.
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April 13, 2018, 12:00:35 AM
#49
Ofcourse it's manipulated, that's what whales do. They can move the market significantly in no time. Up and down.

Or look at the volatility, having double digit % raises and falls in a day means it can still be easily manipulated. But it's getting harder every day as the market matures.
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April 12, 2018, 11:50:46 PM
#48
The link provided goes to an unavailable page.

Anyway I think this is the post regarding a cartel inside the crypto market. They manipulate other assets as well like gold and silver because of Bitcoin future and they are shorting it.

Well I do not buy it, This Conspiracy theorist always accuse something but they  can not provide any evidence about their claim. They might have their own agenda why they posted that topic. Probably they are the one who are shorting Bitcoin right now.

   
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April 12, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
#47
I do not know, but I do not think so. people buy bitcoin because they need it. if you feel that the bitcoin price is manipulated then you have to sell the bitcoin you have so you will not be stressed when something goes wrong.
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April 12, 2018, 09:58:29 PM
#46
It is very strange if there is a very high increase and a fairly rapid decline, of course suspected where bitcoin is vulnerable to manipulation by a very influential person and a very strong capital to manipulate it, but do not assume it directly on the other hand is a real Bitcoin price in itself decreased to increase as well, there are also many sources who think bitcoin is hard to manipulate by some people when it should be manipulated by all users very sure.
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April 12, 2018, 09:34:27 PM
#45
Yesterday, today, tomorrow and the day after tomorrow we all don't know the market being manipulated or react naturally because personally, I can only feel the impact, and we don't know what's really happening with the market.
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April 12, 2018, 08:00:49 AM
#44
Actually, not just bitcoins that can be manipulated, stocks, gold, oil and other prices can be manipulated. The question is who can manipulate it? This is a very common secret that will continue to be a secret. That some people believe that there are certain groups that have influence in the world and have the ability to manipulate anything. Bitcoin is not a big thing for them because its total market cap is still far below gold.
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April 12, 2018, 07:53:01 AM
#43
Sadly I am pretty much aware of general manipulations made on bitcoin price. Currency without country backup is never going to be that much safe except community trust. Some people try to play with trust so manipulate the price.
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April 12, 2018, 06:06:25 AM
#42
It doesn't matter whether or not people here think it is being manipulated. The only thing that matters is that you can use this manipulation in your advantage as well, and that without doing any of the initial work yourself.

In some cases manipulation is so obvious, that it would be a waste of a precious opportunity to not capitalize on this. Bitcoin's market is a plaything for deep pockets, which is a good thing for those looking to ride their waves.

If not, then no problem, but don't get bothered then with how the market moves up and down. It's all part of the game we're in and we all "signed up" for that at the moment we entered the crypto space.
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April 12, 2018, 06:05:19 AM
#41
If talking about manipulation then I will believe. This is because sometimes there are people who have a lot of money / Bitcoin / crypto and they do something in the market and then do price manipulation. Yes it may take an enormous amount to do so. But I make sure that the chances of manipulation remain, as long as there are people trying to make a profit in taking advantage of the situation then rapid price changes are still very likely. Not just a news that can change the price, someone with a certain purpose will also have the desire to be able to benefit from the difficulties faced by others.
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April 12, 2018, 05:46:42 AM
#40
it could have been manipulated to expect a bot in charge of buying bitcoins at random prices and not paying transaction costs like consumers, and that's how it's done so that bitcoin prices can go up. The high transaction generates a "false" signal to the market, because it seems as if the bitcoin needs are increasing dramatically. The investors who do not know the behind-the-scenes events then respond by buying bitcoin as well. As a result, bitcoin prices jumped almost 10X in just two months.
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April 11, 2018, 07:32:40 AM
#39
I don't think it can be avoided. There are always people with enough assets to move the market and that applies even outside of bitcoin. We small fishes would have to learn how to swim with the waves these people create.
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April 10, 2018, 04:54:18 PM
#38
any market can be manipulated. The financial market it's self is pretty decentralized (even more then bitcoin). If you think of it over 50% of the BTC mining market is in china and is controlled by 4 organizations. What financial market in the world is more at the whim of so few people?

That wouldn't give Chinese miners control over the market. All miners can do is add (or shut down) hash power, order transactions into blocks, and sell block rewards on the market. Miners do not control the supply. Like any "whales" in the market, they can only sell for so long before their supply is distributed (if the intention is to suppress the price).

The "4 organizations" bit is misleading too. Just because a pool possesses hash power at this moment doesn't mean it owns the mining hardware. We have no idea how distributed mining power is. At the drop of a dime, a lot of mining power pointing at Chinese pools could be pointed elsewhere.
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April 10, 2018, 04:08:18 PM
#37
Manipulation is nothing new in Market. There may have little manipulation in Crypto too. But I don’t think not in any form of Cartel. This is just mare speculation. It’s pretty tough to manipulate a market that is based on decentralization.

any market can be manipulated. The financial market it's self is pretty decentralized (even more then bitcoin). If you think of it over 50% of the BTC mining market is in china and is controlled by 4 organizations. What financial market in the world is more at the whim of so few people? Can you imagine the potential for inside trading here? And what's worse is that because of the de-regulation and pseudo-anonimity of bitcoin this is neither illegal, nor easy to prove. You wanted total freedom with your money? You have it. No rules other then jungle rules. Survival of the fittest.
it is clear that the market has always been manipulated and thus affects all users. Despite the fact that they believed that Bitcoin would never affect the pricing of another crypto currency, but nevertheless it happens. Today, large whales throw a huge amount of bitcoin into the market and thereby make a collapse in prices and a drop in the market.
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April 10, 2018, 10:01:45 AM
#36
Manipulation is nothing new in Market. There may have little manipulation in Crypto too. But I don’t think not in any form of Cartel. This is just mare speculation. It’s pretty tough to manipulate a market that is based on decentralization.

any market can be manipulated. The financial market it's self is pretty decentralized (even more then bitcoin). If you think of it over 50% of the BTC mining market is in china and is controlled by 4 organizations. What financial market in the world is more at the whim of so few people? Can you imagine the potential for inside trading here? And what's worse is that because of the de-regulation and pseudo-anonimity of bitcoin this is neither illegal, nor easy to prove. You wanted total freedom with your money? You have it. No rules other then jungle rules. Survival of the fittest.
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April 10, 2018, 09:41:23 AM
#35
There is certainly some level of manipulation on bitcoin by cartels but i don't thin that it is very huge .
The major reasons why bitcoin gets so much fluctuating prices , ups and downs  is because of the events surrounding it and all the negative and postitive influence of the external environment . There are phases of bitcoin in a year and from past few years it has been following the same pattern , that might also make things clear . Moreover governments , bans etc. also plays a major role in it.
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April 10, 2018, 08:23:22 AM
#34
I've seen the article before, and I agree that there is manipulation going on, but im not sure to what extent. What im sure of is that the elite can't stop Bitcoin, they can only temporarily manipulate the price, and if they want to continue being a major force in Bitcoin they MUST own big amounts, similarly, they own big amounts of gold.

So it's on TPTB's gain to actually have a BTC worth $1,000,000 per coin, if they are the biggest owners. If they don't do it, someone else will.
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April 10, 2018, 08:15:27 AM
#33
There is an interesting article on the Internet about the cartel that manipulates the price of bitcoin, I advise you to read. I think now while capitalization bitcoin not big, there is a probability that they are manipulated
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April 10, 2018, 08:12:52 AM
#32
maybe bitcoin hard to manipulated, why? because if you want to manupulated bitcoin price you need to have big money and big capital to amkes the price high or low, and we know that the price of bitcoin is bery expensive, if the other token and other altcoin maybe it can manupulated because the price is not expensive like bitcoin and the market about that altcoin still rare, so the "big whale" can play the price of that token or altcoin
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