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Topic: Is Bitcointalk passing information to investigation authorities? (Read 1652 times)

legendary
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Doesn't have much choice if served with a subpoena.
Unless he wants to sit in jail and I don't think he likes anyone here that much!
Doing so because of random people would not make much sense, would it now?



I'm not sure what you meant by that.

My statement was meant to be, that if Theymos is served with a subpoena, since he is in the USA, he really has no choice other than being jailed to release any info requested.


That is still no reason to discuss the jurisdictions, i.e. the agencies themselves. I don't see why that even matters in this case, but fine. If you want to continue and let people post useless things, then go ahead. This will be my final reply here.


While I realize that in Meta you have no moderation powers and are simply a "user" you still wear the "Staff" label.

In doing such there is a certain level of behavior that should be maintained and getting pissy simply because you are disagreed with isn't in line with that.

I didn't say you were wrong, I simply disagreed with you, that's all.

No reason to simply stop posting.


~BCX~








legendary
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Terminated.
The topic is Is Bitcointalk passing information to investigation authorities?
I can promise you the authorities referred to in the title of the OP are indeed various three letter agencies which certainly do relate to the OP and the jurisdiction is releavant.
That is still no reason to discuss the jurisdictions, i.e. the agencies themselves. I don't see why that even matters in this case, but fine. If you want to continue and let people post useless things, then go ahead. This will be my final reply here.

Why the anxiousness to close off the topic?
I'm not a fan of redundant posts.

Doesn't have much choice if served with a subpoena.
Unless he wants to sit in jail and I don't think he likes anyone here that much!
Doing so because of random people would not make much sense, would it now?


Update:
I do not want to continue posting as the questions by OP were answered. It has nothing to do with you disagreeing with me.
legendary
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Criminals In Action. Safe to assume they've been monitoring this forum since day one.
legendary
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Not complying with a USA subpoena isn't exactly conducive to a life of freedom.

There is irony in that sentence..


Intentional!


~BCX~
legendary
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BTC or BUST
Not complying with a USA subpoena isn't exactly conducive to a life of freedom.

There is irony in that sentence..
legendary
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theymos is a snitch  Shocked


Not sure I would go that far.

Doesn't have much choice if served with a subpoena.

Unless he wants to sit in jail and I don't think he likes anyone here that much!

 Grin Grin Grin


~BCX~

I'm surprised this thread has went this long.  The fact that the site remains up shows it is willing to work with authorities.  If they did not on a site this size it most likely would be taken down.

And as mentioned with BFL with sharing info I think some of working with authorities is good.  It can help some members in certain cases.


Theymos himself has openly posted in this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bfl-subpoena-1027518

That he has released information in possession of Bitcointalk to the authorities.

Theymos is located in the USA.

Not complying with a USA subpoena isn't exactly conducive to a life of freedom.


~BCX~


Added: I do believe that Ross Ulbricht and GAW also had info released from Bitcointalk to the American FBI
legendary
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theymos is a snitch  Shocked


Not sure I would go that far.

Doesn't have much choice if served with a subpoena.

Unless he wants to sit in jail and I don't think he likes anyone here that much!

 Grin Grin Grin


~BCX~

I'm surprised this thread has went this long.  The fact that the site remains up shows it is willing to work with authorities.  If they did not on a site this size it most likely would be taken down.

And as mentioned with BFL with sharing info I think some of working with authorities is good.  It can help some members in certain cases.
legendary
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theymos is a snitch  Shocked


Not sure I would go that far.

Doesn't have much choice if served with a subpoena.

Unless he wants to sit in jail and I don't think he likes anyone here that much!

 Grin Grin Grin


~BCX~
hero member
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theymos is a snitch  Shocked
legendary
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Why?
What's wrong with discussing this?
This thread isn't about three letter agencies and their jurisdictions (what they do and what they don't). This will cause unnecessary spam in addition to being off-topic.


The topic is Is Bitcointalk passing information to investigation authorities?

I can promise you the authorities referred to in the title of the OP are indeed various three letter agencies which certainly do relate to the OP and the jurisdiction is releavant.

Why the anxiousness to close off the topic?



~BCX~
legendary
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Terminated.
Why?
What's wrong with discussing this?
This thread isn't about three letter agencies and their jurisdictions (what they do and what they don't). This will cause unnecessary spam in addition to being off-topic.
x13
sr. member
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Things are called shit for a reason, dear.
My question has been answered. I would let the thread open for further discussion. If it is not desired then I will lock it (or you can do it, if you think it is the best option in order to prevent spam posts).

Please enough of the three letter agency talk, it is off-topic. A separate thread would be more suited if you want to discuss those.

Oh wow, I didn't know about that. Interesting information...
You have to be around for a while to know.


OP if your questions have been answered please lock this thread.
legendary
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BTC or BUST
Please enough of the three letter agency talk, it is off-topic. A separate thread would be more suited if you want to discuss those.

Oh wow, I didn't know about that. Interesting information...
You have to be around for a while to know.


OP if your questions have been answered please lock this thread.

Why?

What's wrong with discussing this?
legendary
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Terminated.
Please enough of the three letter agency talk, it is off-topic. A separate thread would be more suited if you want to discuss those.

Oh wow, I didn't know about that. Interesting information...
You have to be around for a while to know.


OP if your questions have been answered please lock this thread.
newbie
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The US Three Letter Agencies can reach out and touch you anywhere.
Only if anywhere constitutes of US & EU for you. US Three Letter Agencies can not do anything inside Brazil Russia India China or the countries living under the BRIC's shadow.

Just ask Kim Dotcom LOL
Just ask Snowden LOL.

Nope. The CIA operates everywhere, except domestically within the USA, or so the law says, but we all know how fond of following the law the CIA is. The NSA collects information from everywhere as well. The DEA has also been known to do international operations.
That is what the Hollywood movies want u to believe. But, the truth is CIA can not even assassinate their home grown enemy Snowden, who is sitting peacefully in Russia for years. On the contrary, KGB got into UK and poisoned Alexander Litvinenko without a problem.
legendary
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BTC or BUST
Isn't this pretty much a case of, your anonymity is in your own hands and not the forums?

As far as I can tell you are allowed to come to this forum as anon as you want to be, and the forum cannot give anyone any information that you did not give the forum, because they don't have it to be able to give..

So if you want to be anon you have to be anon to the forum and not expect the forum to keep you anon..
legendary
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*puts on tinfoil sombrero*

I wouldn't be surprised at all if there are various investigation authorities who have bitcointalk accounts with which they can monitor, observe and look into whatever red flags which may happen to pop up on their radar.


Of course they are.

It would be damn near dereliction of duty on their part if they weren't.


~BCX~
member
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Just presume you type and it is documented somewhere in a desert if that troubles you stop talking about banging midgets and put on a facade that does not match your own in real life. Oh wait thats facebook accounts!

The people that are paranoid about privacy are not on the internet and thats really the only way to be sure you are not being tracked for slamming midgets into the bed posts.
hero member
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First of all, I want to say that I am not part of any illegal activities or something similar. I ask this question because I am curious.

Is Bitcointalk.org (the owners/maintainers) passing information to investigation authorities on request for user information in the case of big frauds and scams ( e.g. Mt.Gox etc)?

The posts are public for everyone even for visitors and the posts are fast indexed in google, maybe there are some private boards for staff but don't know for sure.
Also seeing that when you send a PM you will see this "Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages." which i understand that everything is open.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
The US Three Letter Agencies can reach out and touch you anywhere.
Only if anywhere constitutes of US & EU for you. US Three Letter Agencies can not do anything inside Brazil Russia India China or the countries living under the BRIC's shadow.

Just ask Kim Dotcom LOL
Just ask Snowden LOL.

Nope. The CIA operates everywhere, except domestically within the USA, or so the law says, but we all know how fond of following the law the CIA is. The NSA collects information from everywhere as well. The DEA has also been known to do international operations.
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