Topic: Is Dash a better alternative to Bitcoin? - page 8. (Read 23689 times)

A reminder to all that Dash Evolution is in its fundamentals a very large Dash update that is as of today very much still work in progress.
On January 21/22, 2016 a working model will be demonstrated during the Miami Bitcoin Event, but that will not automatically mean it will
be done and ready for the world .. personally i consider it Alpha stage ready by then.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-19-2015.6429/

* i corrected the date to the actual Miami Bitcoin date(s) as it will be demonstrated then.

Evan did mention when it is done and ready it will be open-sourced, just like everything of Dash is open-sourced.
 

  

The reasons why iCEBREAKER might be angry toward Dash and his investing skills (horrible or otherwise) are both off topic. Try to obsess a bit less about iCEBREAKER.

The topic is "Is Dash a better alternative to Bitcoin?"

Answer: NO

As with the foolish rename, Evan's top-down, decided-in-secret closed-source approach to "Evolution" (the irony is impressive) is not welcomed by the market, and in destroying value, not adding it. Meanwhile Bitcoin continues to power ahead with innovation and its open-source, peer-reviewed approach and is being rewarded accordingly by the the market.

Wading back on topic, here's some shit you'd never see Bitcoin (much less Monero) core devs pulling.

No, you changed the quote to make it out to be the context was Monero, when the context originally was one of the reasons why Icebreaker might be angry towards Dash and also his horrible investing skills which should make everyone consider his opinions on Dash very critically.

Everyone should also consider any Dash fanclub member's posts critically as being heavily involved with something can come with biased views (hopefully I didn't steal your reply here).

Good point and if you thought you were highlighting areas where bitcoin has an advantage, you're not. You're highlighting one where Dash has the advantage.

First of all, by their developer's own admissions, sidechains are a boilerplate solution for bitcoin's deficiencies in fungibility, performance and whatever other areas programmers care to identify. They're only there because everyone's sh*t scared to touch the bitcoin protocol - not because they are are the "right" solutions monetarily.

Furthermore, they are developed from a monopolistic mindset - one that assumes a one-world, dominant monetary medium (at least in crypto). Don't take my workd for it, take it from the devs themselves (minute: 42;48).


Likeways, payment channels - however inevitable in any crypto that gets mass adopted - are not an inherent property of the base monetary medium and their necessity as a dependent technology detracts - not enhances - from that medium's integrity as a cash asset. For any new electronic 'token' that purports to garner value as money, the importance of being able to function independently as cash cannot be over estimated.

The design priorities that the Dash project has set itself call for an independently functioning, high performance cash medium that has strong monetary fidelity. That's why it puts things like confirmation time, fungibility, transparency of the blockchain and compatability with the crypto-currency commercial realm at the forefront of its technical objectives.

I believe that when new developments are created it is not done in an open source manner for the community and peers to review the code.

Maybe they open source waaay later but initially it is closed source. At least that is the trend I've noticed.

Nick's comment  applies here as Evan is trying to flesh out a protocol without it being open sourced from the get go.

It reminds me of how the Federal Reserve thinks operating in secrecy behind closed doors is the best thing for the economy when it is clear they have no clue what they are doing.

When iCEBREAKER invested in some coin other than Dash or Bitcoin is totally irrelevant to this thread, so yes, I'm going to trim that irrelevant context.

Back on topic though, what do you think that the market is telling us about Dash and Bitcoin, because Bitcoin seems to be doing a whole lot better according to investors?

What do you think about open source developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem, such as confidential transactions (with whitepaper), sidechains (with whitepaper), improved smart contracts (with BIP documents), lightning network (with whitepaper), etc.? Is Dash meeting and exceeding that quality and quantity of open source development, or is it falling behind and/or going in the wrong direction? Is the market getting this wrong?

And now instead of just leaving out the context editing posts to make the context different that it originally was is approaching forum games I've generally expected from puppets deserving the "Trollero" title. Please don't go there.

I seem to remember toknormal and probably other Dash supporters saying quite a few times that growth in market cap was an indicator of the success of Dash. That cuts both ways does it not?

BTW, by "Doge 2.0" are you referring to Bitcoin because that makes no sense? Or are you going off topic?

Tread topic reminder: "Is Dash a better alternative to Bitcoin?"

Update:

DASH price May 2014: $13.50
DASH price today: $2.25 $2.14

BTC price May 2014: $500
BTC price today: $300 $302

What you call "the context" i.e. Monero, is off topic to this thread. Please try to stay on topic. iCEBREAKER seems capable of that (as far as I can tell every one of his posts here discussed Dash and Bitcoin). Are you?

Back on topic: Dash has lost nearly all of its value while Bitcoin is quickly recovering a large portion of the value it lost over a similar time period. Dash is NOT a better alternative to Bitcoin based on market performance, which is often cited by Dash proponents as a measure of its success.

Isn't Dash open sourced? After they issue the new development, we do not know what is inside the code?

And do you have any idea why that might be?

Also, would it be better if Dash fanclub went to every Monero thread to talk about it instead? At least they have the decency not to go shit on another fanclub's lawn 24/7 taking turns.

Conveniently leaving out the context. Which was Icebreaker giving investment advice and then turning out after he started investing in Monero the price has plummeted 90% and is now being angry.

To briefly bring this thread back on topic

DASH price May 2014: $13.50
DASH price today: $2.25

BTC price May 2014: $500
BTC price today: $300

To answer the question in the thread topic, Dash is not a better alternative to Bitcoin.

Linus' Law says you can't simply pay for peer review of the quality that open source's 'many eyeballs' delivers. 

Doing both is ideal.  Just doing open source is usually fine.  Just doing peer review among a small, paid group in secret is unacceptable.

"Any DashHole who thinks they can flesh out Evolution in secret and then deploy it, full-blown and working, is in for a world of butthurt."

TrueCryptonaire is a coin pumper. His group shils coin no matter which when they need to sell it and FUD it when they need to buy it. He will be back dont worry. For Monero and for other coins.

Please be informed that specially my last request (highlighted in black) is strictly enforced in this thread, therefore there is absolutely no reason to quote persons who violate that request as their post
gets deleted anyways !

Lets keep it nice, clean and enjoyable to read.

  

No, you got it the other way around.

Ahh what? There is always at least 5 Monero haters in every Thread about DASH including you're no good low grade developer Smooth. Funny how you got scammed by Hashfast / Icebreaker and now you're best friends trolling DASH threads including ANN Dash thread! That 5 XMR day must be tempting. Also it must be boring ur side without any developing going on I mean really 2 years and nothing...wow.

P.S. Correcting my mistake at least 5 Monero haters every page of every DASH thread.

One of the main reasons Dash is not better than bitcoin (even as an alternative)  is because most of its development does not appear to be peer reviewed by the crypto community.

It is being developed behind closed doors and thus there is a bigger chance for it to have bugs/exploits/flaws.