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Topic: Is El Salvador in debt because of the bitcoin price drop? - page 5. (Read 761 times)

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And they continue to notify us about their new investment in bitcoin. How much bitcoin did they buy, and when did they buy it? How much did they spend on the average price of a bitcoin?

Nobody knows for sure as the only proof for that is Bukele licking the dip each time, and each time after the comes to congratulate himself for the buy the price drops more. Quite ironic taking into account how bitcoin was supposed to bring transparency and stuff like that for governments.

As for the debt, even if BTC goes to zero, the amount is negligible even for Salvador, 1800 coins make roughly $60m spent, by comparison, they have issued bonds worth 400 million to finance their yearly deficit from government spending. They wanted 1.3 billion from the IMF also, when you're that much in debt already 60 million is nothing and unless BTC goes to 500k it won't matter either way.
The bad part in this is that if the country really gets into trouble because of constant deficits everyone will point the finger at BTC as a cause when it's clearly not the case.

On top of that, they themselves have claimed that they had taken FIAT from the Trust to pay for the Pet Hospital and a bunch of schools, at a time when BTC was high and they had a conceptual surplus on the books (FIAT+BTC). Now the price drop plays against them on both fronts (BTC devaluation and FIAT usage when there is currently no surplus).

Not a problem, two pics of laser eyes and any issue is solved.
How you set up a fund in $ to buy BTC and then from that fund you spend profits in $ from something that is losing value but without selling BTC is beyond me.


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A detailed relation of their bitcoin purchases over time can be seen here (lacking the 410 BTC latest purchase):
That brings the toll up to 1.801 BTCs so far, and yes, on the books, they are at a loss (even more so since the above data was using a BTC value of just over 43K$ for their calculus, and the current price is 34,5K$ (down 20%).

That does not mean they are in debt though (focusing on these BTC operations), but rather currently looking bad on their bookkeeping for their Bitcoin Trust. Allegedly, all these purchases have been made using their Bitcoin Trust, thus the overall bookkeeping value is currently below the value it should reflect. On top of that, they themselves have claimed that they had taken FIAT from the Trust to pay for the Pet Hospital and a bunch of schools, at a time when BTC was high and they had a conceptual surplus on the books (FIAT+BTC). Now the price drop plays against them on both fronts (BTC devaluation and FIAT usage when there is currently no surplus). How those bookeping numbers may shift to having potential consequences is yet to be seen though, and the hope, I guess, is that time sets things right.
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El Salvador Government Debt to GDP

https://tradingeconomics.com/el-salvador/government-debt-to-gdp

El Salvador first bought bitcoin in August 2021, see their dept if compared to their GDP from 2012 to 2020, you can see their dept has been increasing from year to year before the country adopt bitcoin as a legal tender. El Salvador accept bitcoin as a legal tender in August 2021.

Bitcoin price will still increase, if bitcoin does not favour El Salvador in short time, it will favour in long time.

The last bitcoin knew El Salvador bought recently was few days ago when he bought bitcoin at a price of round $36000

https://twitter.com/nayibbukele/status/1484651539587289091

El Salvador is currently holding 1801 BTC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharysmith/2022/01/21/el-salvador-buys-15-million-worth-of-bitcoin-really-cheap-president-crows-as-selloff-continues/amp/
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We know that El Salvador was the first country to make bitcoin legal tender in their country. And he's doing all of this while the price of bitcoin is rising. And they continue to notify us about their new investment in bitcoin. How much bitcoin did they buy, and when did they buy it? How much did they spend on the average price of a bitcoin? Because of the recent massive drop in bitcoin, I assumed that this bitcoin drop had put them in debt. If this dump continues for some more weeks, then it might be problematic for the El Salvador government. Because the opposition party has something to blame them for any kind of debt. And because of the economy, stocks and fiat investors also have something to say against Bitocin. If this happens, then other countries will be really confused about making bitcoin legal tender. To make it legal tender, they might study the case of El Salvador.
 
It's just my speculation. What do you think about my speculation? I really appreciate your opinion.

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