Is everyone on ebay completely crazy? - page 2.

-X-RaTeD-

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Quote from: caminilegroup on December 09, 2013, 10:58:13 AM

Quote from: -X-RaTeD- on December 09, 2013, 10:22:39 AM

Those that buy on eBay will complain about excessive prices... but those of us that sell complain of other reasons...

I sold a BFL asic for ~3k USD and those crooks over at eBay charged me $250 in final value fees... so of course things are going to cost more, especially since demand determines the price, and items are worth what people are willing to pay (which can be more or less actual value).

I'm not complaining about the price increase. I bought it because I wanted them and it is what it is. With bitcoin going back up I expect to pay the same if not a little more per blade next time.

I understand where you are comming from. My post was generally speaking, not directed towards anyone in particular

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A couple of months ago I bought 2 x Blades and 90 USBs total cost of about AUS$1k. About 1 month ago I picked up 3 of the Blue furies for about AUS$100 each. I wouldn't even contemplate buying anything that is in hand at the current prices, and id be even less inclined to pay $ now for something that will arrive in possibly 3 months. The BFL story has scared me away from that idea. So just have to mine with what ive got, and see how long it lasts I guess.

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Quote from: -X-RaTeD- on December 09, 2013, 10:22:39 AM

Those that buy on eBay will complain about excessive prices... but those of us that sell complain of other reasons...

I sold a BFL asic for ~3k USD and those crooks over at eBay charged me $250 in final value fees... so of course things are going to cost more, especially since demand determines the price, and items are worth what people are willing to pay (which can be more or less actual value).

I'm not complaining about the price increase. I bought it because I wanted them and it is what it is. With bitcoin going back up I expect to pay the same if not a little more per blade next time.

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Quote from: fsparv on December 09, 2013, 10:03:12 AM

Quote from: caminilegroup on December 09, 2013, 09:26:32 AM

I bought two v2 blade at the end of October for 250 each, fast forward to the third week of November, I ended up paying 425 each for two more v2 blades. When I tried to get the seller down, he / she claimed that the price is tied to btc. I bought them, but also stated "You are getting one hell of a profit since you bought these for a fraction of what you are selling them for"

Sad part is I can get a 100 GH/s X-1 for less than the blades now.

In march... don't miss this from the bottom of the description "This is a PRE-ORDER, available for dispatch at end of February 2014" use an online calculator... difficulty increases have been averaging near 25-30% and it's going to be shooting up when the new machines start firing up. Order now and there'll be a lot of folks getting online before you.

Nothing out there is not worth much if you get it in march unless difficulty stalls out or price goes back to it's 10x/month rate of increase (both of which are unlikely imho). If you start on march one, and ignore electricity and shipping, then 100Gh in marge will get you around $350 in ~70 days, and less than $100 for all time to come after that.

Also don't miss the "minimum order 10 units" at the top...

I am in the process of becoming an authorized reseller for Black Arrow so I can offer single units. There is only one reseller in the us and I wasn't to pleased with his business practice when I did place an order.

-X-RaTeD-

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Those that buy on eBay will complain about excessive prices... but those of us that sell complain of other reasons...

I sold a BFL asic for ~3k USD and those crooks over at eBay charged me $250 in final value fees... so of course things are going to cost more, especially since demand determines the price, and items are worth what people are willing to pay (which can be more or less actual value).

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Quote from: vervolioman on December 09, 2013, 10:07:18 AM

Yes the prices on ebay are very high, it looks as good business to preorder miner at manufacturer, and when you receive it, sell on ebay (and mine in meantime)

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If the feeding frenzy lasts for another 3 months...

vervolioman

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Yes the prices on ebay are very high, it looks as good business to preorder miner at manufacturer, and when you receive it, sell on ebay (and mine in meantime)

fsparv

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Quote from: caminilegroup on December 09, 2013, 09:26:32 AM

I bought two v2 blade at the end of October for 250 each, fast forward to the third week of November, I ended up paying 425 each for two more v2 blades. When I tried to get the seller down, he / she claimed that the price is tied to btc. I bought them, but also stated "You are getting one hell of a profit since you bought these for a fraction of what you are selling them for"

Sad part is I can get a 100 GH/s X-1 for less than the blades now.

In march... don't miss this from the bottom of the description "This is a PRE-ORDER, available for dispatch at end of February 2014" use an online calculator... difficulty increases have been averaging near 25-30% and it's going to be shooting up when the new machines start firing up. Order now and there'll be a lot of folks getting online before you.

Nothing out there is not worth much if you get it in march unless difficulty stalls out or price goes back to it's 10x/month rate of increase (both of which are unlikely imho). If you start on march one, and ignore electricity and shipping, then 100Gh in marge will get you around $350 in ~70 days, and less than $100 for all time to come after that.

Also don't miss the "minimum order 10 units" at the top...

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Heck, if someone is willing to pay a high price, why not? It's called capitalism and most of us fell for it at first and learned a lesson. But one very important fact to remember is that calculators are limited in that they use current price. I moronically turned-off my litecoin mining in the Summer when the calculator said it was not worth the electricity. Guess what? I would be alot richer now if I had kept on doing it. The big "X" factor is future price which only a psychic can help you with. lol

caminilegroup

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I bought two v2 blade at the end of October for 250 each, fast forward to the third week of November, I ended up paying 425 each for two more v2 blades. When I tried to get the seller down, he / she claimed that the price is tied to btc. I bought them, but also stated "You are getting one hell of a profit since you bought these for a fraction of what you are selling them for"

Sad part is I can get a 100 GH/s X-1 for less than the blades now.

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Demand is what dictateste price.

young3dvard

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It shows a lot money is ready to spend for bitcoin miners. And I still hope bitcoin miners will be cheaper so I can ROI, silly me

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Quote from: mladen00 on December 09, 2013, 02:08:10 AM

you'll buy it if you recognize a potential...if dont dont buy.

If nobody buying it the price will go down

I'm more or less willing to pay something just under a break-even for lifetime price. That eliminates most the market risk for the seller, and frees up the invested cash to do something else more profitable that what remains on the outgoing technology rigs. That really ought to be a good deal for them.

I guess I'm just royally irritated that the suckers are making all entry points into the market a (nearly) guaranteed loss even with the assumption of fairly substantial further rises in bitcoin prices. Amazon searches today don't turn up anything better than ebay searches, probably because all the sellers on ebay raided amazon and are now re-selling it on ebay/amazon...

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Quote from: mladen00 on December 09, 2013, 02:08:10 AM

you'll buy it if you recognize a potential...if dont dont buy.

If nobody buying it the price will go down

Nobody buying it will take a month or two is my guess. A bunch of folks are going nuts it seems and it will take them a week to get set-up and another week to begin to suspect there's a problem, at which point half of them will conclude the problem is they didn't buy a big enough miner and go back for more, and then two weeks they'll decide miners are expensive rip-offs and contracts must be the way to go...

Plus I've begun to wonder how much of it is fueled by stolen accounts and organized crime laundering money...

Oh yeah the moneys legit too... I sold Bit coin mining contracts on ebay to get it, you'd be amazed how much some folk who don't have the required equipment will pay to rent it!... want to see my miner? It's in my pocket... it's tiny and it does THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-THREE MILLION hashes per second! Powerful stuff! Ain't technology amazing your honor?

*sigh*

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you'll buy it if you recognize a potential...if dont dont buy.

If nobody buying it the price will go down

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Quote from: minedaft on December 09, 2013, 01:35:47 AM

The supply/demand/risk curve is messed up on ebay.
There is a large demand: ebay is easy to access, has tons of naive users, and supports paypal.
But there is a high fraud risk: paypal payments are reversible

So prices are silly high for anything bitcoin related.

Well the risk is on the seller ,so obviously the price is high to cover the risk

I hope there's less scammers than the price actually indicates

minedaft

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The supply/demand/risk curve is messed up on ebay.
There is a large demand: ebay is easy to access, has tons of naive users, and supports paypal.
But there is a high fraud risk: paypal payments are reversible

So prices are silly high for anything bitcoin related.

beginagain

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Hello first post here... Ebayers are Nuts! I bought my rigs on Amazon about a month ago... Bought 10pc USB ASICS for less than $20 each and bought 3pc v2 blades for $180 each. would like to buy some more, but not at current prices!

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ebay is a scammers dream. I avoid that website at all costs.

Zavdub

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I purchased 3 usb for $60. The next week the going price for 1 was $62. Now are going for 90-100 Cry

WTF
Some people are crazy as fuck.

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