Is Gambling addiction a disease? - page 4.

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Can't classify addition to anything as mental disease. As someone had pointed out in the previous posts, it is more to do with lack of discipline. It should be treated the same way as we treat alcohol and tobacco addiction, i.e through counseling and information campaigns. That said, I am against putting pressure on the gambling sites to provide counseling services.

Addicted to anything especially gambling is not a disease buy a mental disorder and like you said it is lack of discipline that do cause this. I think we are to play gambling as fun but because of greed and selfishness many of us get addicted to it.

Whatever you think about it, the outcome is not pleasant for a gambler.
Addiction allows you to gamble money that you cannot afford anymore, despite having the skills but lack of discipline makes you addicted and it's already guaranteed that you will just loss along the way.

A guarantee that it will ruined your life because of that addictions, without proper discipline things will turned to a bad habits, using funds that is not
dedicated to such activities, it's need being cured as it can't be handled by a person who's already suffering with such problem, a toxic thing inside your
minds that keeps dictating to do things without any contest inside you.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 13, 2019, 08:44:18 AM

Can't classify addition to anything as mental disease. As someone had pointed out in the previous posts, it is more to do with lack of discipline. It should be treated the same way as we treat alcohol and tobacco addiction, i.e through counseling and information campaigns. That said, I am against putting pressure on the gambling sites to provide counseling services.

Addicted to anything especially gambling is not a disease buy a mental disorder and like you said it is lack of discipline that do cause this. I think we are to play gambling as fun but because of greed and selfishness many of us get addicted to it.

Whatever you think about it, the outcome is not pleasant for a gambler.
Addiction allows you to gamble money that you cannot afford anymore, despite having the skills but lack of discipline makes you addicted and it's already guaranteed that you will just loss along the way.

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Quote from: xWolfx on April 13, 2019, 11:25:34 AM

In fact, losing all your money would force you to get a credit possibly and that's how people sink financially really bad.

Balance is the magic word in this case.

The credit part is where yes its a problem, if the person has no money then its a really bad idea to then be using credit on top. Most gambling is portrayed as leisure activity, so if you got no money its time to go back to work not be borrowing more. Theres no need for the gamble if you havent got anything to bet, have to bet pennies or virtual gamble at that point which I believe is an option.

Heres a case I just read, they are looking at the chain of sites as being poorly controlled for emailing someone already banned - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6921557/Online-casino-accused-bombarding-gambling-addict-emails.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

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If you think gambling addiction is a disease, then you need to come to psychiatric and let them help you to cure your addiction. Whenever you are difficult to handle your emotion, then that will be a time for you to consult to the expert. I am sure that he will do the best to help you especially to cure your addiction.

They can help you treat addiction if you will cooperate with what they will suggest you to do.

There's no medicine for it but gradual healing through projecting with another activity to work on to divert your time instead of gambling.

There is no medicine for it to cure because once the addicted person will not control their emotions on gambling, i have faced many people like this they seem to be very silent but internally their heart will suggest the people gamble. For them, it is impossible to control their emotions.

It is not impossible for them to control their emotions.

There's a limitation for it, they just have to practice it and gradually control themselves.

Actually there are medicine as well to control our mind which will make mind into relaxed state when we are not be able to make much activities which time will be enough for someone to realize gambling addiction is wrong.

Self discipline is the thing which is required in everyone life. If you have this you would not have much problem as you will be able to control your emotions and fancy decisions of making money from the gambling which does not happen that easily.

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Quote from: michellee on April 09, 2019, 02:06:32 AM

If you think gambling addiction is a disease, then you need to come to psychiatric and let them help you to cure your addiction. Whenever you are difficult to handle your emotion, then that will be a time for you to consult to the expert. I am sure that he will do the best to help you especially to cure your addiction.

They can help you treat addiction if you will cooperate with what they will suggest you to do.

There's no medicine for it but gradual healing through projecting with another activity to work on to divert your time instead of gambling.

There is no medicine for it to cure because once the addicted person will not control their emotions on gambling, i have faced many people like this they seem to be very silent but internally their heart will suggest the people gamble. For them, it is impossible to control their emotions.

It is not impossible for them to control their emotions.

There's a limitation for it, they just have to practice it and gradually control themselves.

Actually there are medicine as well to control our mind which will make mind into relaxed state when we are not be able to make much activities which time will be enough for someone to realize gambling addiction is wrong.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 13, 2019, 08:44:18 AM

Can't classify addition to anything as mental disease. As someone had pointed out in the previous posts, it is more to do with lack of discipline. It should be treated the same way as we treat alcohol and tobacco addiction, i.e through counseling and information campaigns. That said, I am against putting pressure on the gambling sites to provide counseling services.

Addicted to anything especially gambling is not a disease buy a mental disorder and like you said it is lack of discipline that do cause this. I think we are to play gambling as fun but because of greed and selfishness many of us get addicted to it.

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Quote from: michellee on April 09, 2019, 02:06:32 AM

If you think gambling addiction is a disease, then you need to come to psychiatric and let them help you to cure your addiction. Whenever you are difficult to handle your emotion, then that will be a time for you to consult to the expert. I am sure that he will do the best to help you especially to cure your addiction.

They can help you treat addiction if you will cooperate with what they will suggest you to do.

There's no medicine for it but gradual healing through projecting with another activity to work on to divert your time instead of gambling.

There is no medicine for it to cure because once the addicted person will not control their emotions on gambling, i have faced many people like this they seem to be very silent but internally their heart will suggest the people gamble. For them, it is impossible to control their emotions.

It is not impossible for them to control their emotions.

There's a limitation for it, they just have to practice it and gradually control themselves.

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Some say addiction other disease. Simply it both.

Addiction is the inability to stop gambling when losses begin to take a toll on relationships, finances and career. But if we look at disease level it same thing. Games are everywhere TV ads touting what you can do if you win the Lotto, billboards and TV ads marketing the excitement of casinos, sports bets, track betting, off-track betting, Internet gambling and more, there’s no shortage of opportunities to win or lose money. SO my conclusion is more on addiction problem.

Gambling addiction, just like addiction to alcohol, drugs, sex and other addictive behaviors, is a disorder of impulse control. The addicted gambler continues to gamble despite all negative consequences to physical and mental health, work, family and social relationship, and any scrapes with the law.

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Quote from: logicgate on April 11, 2019, 10:20:06 AM

Actually gambling is risky that's why it not suit to everyone, and especially for those persons who are emotional and sensitive, they can't handle it like a smart gambler and gambling become for them like a disease.
But if we maintain our way to deal with gambling then definitely gambling is not a disease for us.

I don’t think so gambling is not for everyone those who are earning with gambling will get profit at the end, it is good if it is disease there are so many benefits of this disease, it gives ways to making money, it helps us to enjoy our time because I gamble only when I get free from my work so I really enjoy it and it gives me ways of earning I am want this disease to mix in me.
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I don't agree with you at all, except in the part of maybe enjoying. At least while you have money to play/gamble. Why? Because when you're broke for doing it too much then the enjoying won't be there but the opposite. In fact, losing all your money would force you to get a credit possibly and that's how people sink financially really bad.

Balance is the magic word in this case.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on September 07, 2016, 05:34:29 AM

I am not really a gambler but I heard about people who can't quit it and keep losing lots of money. Do you think the attitude to gambling addiction should be the same as to drug addiction?
Should the government forbid gambling and treat somehow those who are addicted?
Or maybe it should be left up to an adult? I mean, should people decide on their own whether they need to gamble or not.
What do you think?

You cannot compare a drug addict to those who are an addict to gambling, drug addicts are out of control and they can harm anybody because they are out of their mind, drug addicts can be easily cured, with the help of the family t will only take a month compare to drug addicts where it would take 6 months or more to cure.

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Quote from: boyptc on April 12, 2019, 03:06:16 AM

Quote from: michellee on April 09, 2019, 02:06:32 AM

If you think gambling addiction is a disease, then you need to come to psychiatric and let them help you to cure your addiction. Whenever you are difficult to handle your emotion, then that will be a time for you to consult to the expert. I am sure that he will do the best to help you especially to cure your addiction.

They can help you treat addiction if you will cooperate with what they will suggest you to do.

There's no medicine for it but gradual healing through projecting with another activity to work on to divert your time instead of gambling.

There is no medicine for it to cure because once the addicted person will not control their emotions on gambling, i have faced many people like this they seem to be very silent but internally their heart will suggest the people gamble. For them, it is impossible to control their emotions.

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Can't classify addition to anything as mental disease. As someone had pointed out in the previous posts, it is more to do with lack of discipline. It should be treated the same way as we treat alcohol and tobacco addiction, i.e through counseling and information campaigns. That said, I am against putting pressure on the gambling sites to provide counseling services.

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They could only cure their self if they want.
Gambling addiction or any addiction could only be cyred by their own willingness.
Even if people help them if they aren't serious about quitting then it's useless they would surely do something to do what they want.

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Quote from: Janation on April 12, 2019, 11:57:47 PM

-snip- It is the uncontrollable urge of a person to gamble.

That's actually more complicated than that or rather something completely different.
Not just my opinion, compulsive gambling is an uncontrollable, irrational urge of a person to LOOSE.
It is the emotion associated with loosing, that hooks people and turn them in to mindless gamble-zombies.
Winning realises chemicals few times weaker than the opposite, also brain "knows" the cortisol much better, handles it in much more effective fashion and here is why;
The effects of cortisol are mostly sugar production and retention, our body loves sugar, because its the simplest power source, if particular emotion is causing extra sugar production, brain will try to stick to it, at all costs.
Ergo loosing is actually sweet. Sugar addiction is not only disorder, IMO it can be called a disease.

I agree with that. But I guess it is still connected to it. I mean not all of the gamblers are losing, they are not addicted to gambling because they are running after their losses but they are chasing to win more money. Don't get me wrong, I know that there are a lot of gamblers that lose their money but what I am saying is that there are gamblers that usually don't.

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Quote from: SundayLottery on April 12, 2019, 11:30:48 PM

It is not a disease.
It is lack of discipline, character and weakness.
People prefer to believe it is a disease because this makes them feel less responsible for this. Less guilty... Much easier to say that your have a disease than to admit you are just a weak person...

This is true whatever "doctors" say...

I don't want to say that doctors are always right, but your last sentence doesn't look very convincing. If you want to prove your point, you have to show how gambling addiction is different from other known addictions, such as alcohol addiction, drug addiction, kleptomania and others on the chemical level. Can you prove, for example, that gambling addiction is not a kind of Dopamine addiction? If you can't, I think you shouldn't say "This is true whatever "doctors" say".

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Quote from: Janation on April 12, 2019, 11:57:47 PM

-snip- It is the uncontrollable urge of a person to gamble.

That's actually more complicated than that or rather something completely different.
Not just my opinion, compulsive gambling is an uncontrollable, irrational urge of a person to LOOSE.
It is the emotion associated with loosing, that hooks people and turn them in to mindless gamble-zombies.
Winning realises chemicals few times weaker than the opposite, also brain "knows" the cortisol much better, handles it in much more effective fashion and here is why;
The effects of cortisol are mostly sugar production and retention, our body loves sugar, because its the simplest power source, if particular emotion is causing extra sugar production, brain will try to stick to it, at all costs.
Ergo loosing is actually sweet. Sugar addiction is not only a disorder, IMO it can be called a disease.

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That would eventually become a disease if it is already serious.
Gambling addiction will take over your life, your once happy life will turn into miserable life, you experience it because you are building it when you are gambling.

Thats why we must become a responsible gambler because addition can really bring our life in misery and when you realize the mistakes sometimes it is too late and you have already been covered with wrong doings specially in regards to gambling addiction.

This is why we need to give concerns to the other gamblers that potentially addicted,we are here to advice them to betterment of their lives and family

The problem is we somehow don't notice it since most likely they are keeping it secret. I think the beat thing to do is not to introduce gambling at all to someone if you know that he's not that well in handling his/her emotion.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2019, 11:48:44 PM

Quote from: SundayLottery on April 12, 2019, 11:30:48 PM

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That would eventually become a disease if it is already serious.
Gambling addiction will take over your life, your once happy life will turn into miserable life, you experience it because you are building it when you are gambling.

Thats why we must become a responsible gambler because addition can really bring our life in misery and when you realize the mistakes sometimes it is too late and you have already been covered with wrong doings specially in regards to gambling addiction.

This is why we need to give concerns to the other gamblers that potentially addicted,we are here to advice them to betterment of their lives and family

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Quote from: Janation on April 12, 2019, 11:57:47 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2019, 11:48:44 PM

Quote from: SundayLottery on April 12, 2019, 11:30:48 PM

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That would eventually become a disease if it is already serious.
Gambling addiction will take over your life, your once happy life will turn into miserable life, you experience it because you are building it when you are gambling.

We should make this clear.

A disease and a disorder are different from each other. Other people also think that they are the same but they are not. Gambling is not a disease but it is a disorder. It is a brain disorder, there are a lot of terms for this but I think the most popular here is Compulsive Gambling. It is the uncontrollable urge of a person to gamble.

It could be an emotional disease, and when have that kind of disease, it will also wear down your body.
We can avoid gambling addiction if we anticipate that it will happen and we can make measures to prevent this.
I can understand that some sites does not allow underage gamblers because the possibility of addiction is very high, we need to be responsible in gambling.

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Quote from: Hannahanto on April 12, 2019, 04:25:13 PM

Quote from: kryptqnick on September 07, 2016, 05:34:29 AM

I am not really a gambler but I heard about people who can't quit it and keep losing lots of money. Do you think the attitude to gambling addiction should be the same as to drug addiction?
Should the government forbid gambling and treat somehow those who are addicted?
Or maybe it should be left up to an adult? I mean, should people decide on their own whether they need to gamble or not.
What do you think?

As far as i have heard yes, Gambling is a game with more addiction and at times the situation has gone worst where the player has spent everything and stood out without even a single penny. It slowly becomes a sick within. Unless and until you realize as an individual to come out of it.

If a person is that much addicted that he spend all his belongings in the gambling, then he/she is not a normal person and should be immediately medically treated. Every person in the world has common sense and if a person is risking everything in gambling then he surely lack this common sense.

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