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Quote from: shivansps on May 30, 2024, 03:04:29 PM

Quote from: Jocuserious on September 24, 2023, 12:12:16 PM

In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

I agree with you that making money from gambling is not a good idea. This is either not possible or very close to impossible. I'm not talking about victories and winning large sums of money. I'm talking about the original idea of earning money for a living by gambling. That is, when a person at some point begins to think that he is good enough to stop working and start receiving his main income from gambling. I think that this is not the best idea and most likely nothing good will come of it.
I don’t really understand what victory and defeat mean in your head. I think that some luck plays a big role in gambling or betting.

Luck is everything when it comes to gambling and that's why many people have failed when they think they can force or make a stand with the profits that they think can be gotten on a steady from gambling. I have a friend whose every little funds he has, he puts it into the casino with the intention of always wanting to double it and he is off the mentality that he can get whatever he needs to spend from that money back just because he is afraid of getting the money shortened and that for me is an example of pure greed and it has lead him to many failed attempt but yet he is still on the idea that gambling isn't luck based.

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Gambling is not all about luck, rather there's still presence of roughly enough work to be done because it's how the system operates. Luck is from the beginners because they have no solid idea of gambling system but they're the ones that are lucky enough to hits the lotto in the system. It's been a whole roughly months I've spent in gambling and I've learned to understand how tactical and tricky the system can be, we should try our best.

Yes, you need to have the skills to know some winning teams so that you will know how to predict for your game to come through, and the luck don't use to come when you don't understand gambling skill..

And such luck don't allow newbies to last long in gambling, because they will still gamble without having the knowledge of what they gamble for, and they will continue losing until they find solution to it.

There is no way you will spend some years in gambling, and you will not know that gambling is not by luck but if you have the knowledge of gambling, it will be easy for you to make your winning higher than your losing.

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Quote from: satscraper on May 31, 2024, 03:43:22 AM

Depends on the gambling.

Craps and roulette is a pure luck while, let's say, in bridge the wings of this bird are less stretched, I would say not more then for 20%. The expertise is responsible for the rest 80%.

I knew guy who could play bridge even in his sleep, and count cards unsight when gambling in casino.

Yes they type of gambling determine most the kind of wining power if it required some tactical means to be more proficient but for me there is no gambling that only rely on luck because experience matters allot just as a new environment always look strange to any person who is newly introduce so it's to gambling and those that gamble on it the time one spend in game it gambling limit some assumption of luck as knowing how the system work even usher the gambler more chance of winning.

There is luck in gambling but can be completely a game if luck there is difference between one with good knowledge and one without experience.

I think you are very correct because as long as gambling bet is concerned one need to have knowledge about it because without being knowledgeable about gambling and do some research about how teams normally play and no the right one that is supposed to win without noing all this things and have experience I didn't believe if anything like luck in the gambling bet.

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Quote from: satscraper on May 31, 2024, 03:43:22 AM

Depends on the gambling.

Craps and roulette is a pure luck while, let's say, in bridge the wings of this bird are less stretched, I would say not more then for 20%. The expertise is responsible for the rest 80%.

I knew guy who could play bridge even in his sleep, and count cards unsight when gambling in casino.

Yes they type of gambling determine most the kind of wining power if it required some tactical means to be more proficient but for me there is no gambling that only rely on luck because experience matters allot just as a new environment always look strange to any person who is newly introduce so it's to gambling and those that gamble on it the time one spend in game it gambling limit some assumption of luck as knowing how the system work even usher the gambler more chance of winning.

There is luck in gambling but can be completely a game if luck there is difference between one with good knowledge and one without experience.

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Quote from: moneystery on June 01, 2024, 01:10:34 AM

casinos are not a place for someone to be able to get money to meet their daily needs, someone cannot make gambling their job because it is just a pretty stupid idea considering that casinos have a higher chance of winning compared to gamblers, and because of that gamblers who want to make gambling their job to earn money every day will only be wasting their time and money because it will be very difficult to achieve, unless they have high skills in games that rely on strategy.

I agree with you, indeed casinos are not a place to make money for sure and it is also very wrong if someone considers gambling as a means of income that can meet their daily needs or help them financially. remembering that gambling is a business and players only have an ordinary role, they will not be able to earn or make money consistently, even with people who are said to be professionals at gambling, I am sure they will not win consistently. Those who think gambling can help them financially may end up losing money instead of making money.
Winning at gambling may be based on luck, some gambling is based on our skills, where skills can increase the chances of winning, but that doesn't mean luck is lost, but luck will still play a role because even if they use their skills well, if they are not lucky then it won't work. can result in victory.

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Quote from: satscraper on May 31, 2024, 03:43:22 AM

Depends on the gambling.

Craps and roulette is a pure luck while, let's say, in bridge the wings of this bird are less stretched, I would say not more then for 20%. The expertise is responsible for the rest 80%.

I knew guy who could play bridge even in his sleep, and count cards unsight when gambling in casino.

Card counting? Man, that's tough.

Well, in poker too, it's not a pure luck thing. It needs a lot of expertise and practice to be a high-level poker player. Why did I add experience? Reading your opponent's face is also part of how to analyze how the game could work out. There are a lot of times that poker players pause for a second and look at the eyes and mannerisms of their opponents before they make their decision. It's because some player do spill their habits and it can become their weakness. Some habits are shaking hands whenever they receive a good hand while others tend to be talkative when they have a bad card and playing a bluff. This things are not luck based and it could help out to win a round.

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Quote from: shivansps on May 30, 2024, 03:04:29 PM

I agree with you that making money from gambling is not a good idea. This is either not possible or very close to impossible. I'm not talking about victories and winning large sums of money. I'm talking about the original idea of earning money for a living by gambling. That is, when a person at some point begins to think that he is good enough to stop working and start receiving his main income from gambling. I think that this is not the best idea and most likely nothing good will come of it.
I don’t really understand what victory and defeat mean in your head. I think that some luck plays a big role in gambling or betting.

casinos are not a place for someone to be able to get money to meet their daily needs, someone cannot make gambling their job because it is just a pretty stupid idea considering that casinos have a higher chance of winning compared to gamblers, and because of that gamblers who want to make gambling their job to earn money every day will only be wasting their time and money because it will be very difficult to achieve, unless they have high skills in games that rely on strategy.

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Quote from: shivansps on May 30, 2024, 03:04:29 PM

Quote from: Jocuserious on September 24, 2023, 12:12:16 PM

In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

I agree with you that making money from gambling is not a good idea. This is either not possible or very close to impossible. I'm not talking about victories and winning large sums of money. I'm talking about the original idea of earning money for a living by gambling. That is, when a person at some point begins to think that he is good enough to stop working and start receiving his main income from gambling. I think that this is not the best idea and most likely nothing good will come of it.
I don’t really understand what victory and defeat mean in your head. I think that some luck plays a big role in gambling or betting.

Having an idea to making money from gambling is a bad idea because we knows that gambling is not a place to do that. Playing gambling needs to have luck while not many people have but they will still playing gambling because they thinks that they will wins in the next rounds. We don't knows how many rounds they will spend to wins but one thing that we knows that if they playing gambling too long, they can lose their money but they will still difficult to win. We must knows and realizes that playing gambling is just for have fun and needs to be moderately so we don't lose too much money, especially we knows that winning in gambling needs luck. When we can understand this, we will not spends much money to playing gambling and will not chase the wins instead just to spends the money we can afford to lose.

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Quote from: sompitonov on May 31, 2024, 04:31:40 AM

Quote from: satscraper on May 31, 2024, 03:43:22 AM

Depends on the gambling.

Craps and roulette is a pure luck while, let's say, in bridge the wings of this bird are less stretched, I would say not more then for 20%. The expertise is responsible for the rest 80%.

I knew guy who could play bridge even in his sleep, and count cards unsight when gambling in casino.

Only people like your friend can make money from this, but you really need to be in this topic every moment and just enjoy learning and constantly improving yourself in this game.

As for other games, the factor of luck and professionalism is different everywhere. For example, if a beginner goes to play poker, then 8 professionals will beat him at the table and he will be their target. Of course, a beginner can get lucky in a few hands, but time works against him, because the more he plays with them, the more the luck factor decreases, in the end they will just beat him completely and leave him without a deposit. Therefore, it is better for a beginner to go play where the factor of professionalism influences the situation least of all, this could be roulette, in which luck decides absolutely everything and he will not be different from those who have been playing roulette for 30 years.

That is very true, I personally have always said something, those who are professionals in poker, the worst thing a beginner can do is face them, because obviously what you say will happen, that is something that can not be denied, however when a person is starting he should realize that those people have a much higher level than him in terms of the game, and he should realize that and not play anymore, well, something like that happened to me many times in poker, and I realized that if I continued at certain tables I was going to run out of money, and I did withdraw and tried my luck at other tables, but what you say about luck is very true.

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Quote from: satscraper on May 31, 2024, 03:43:22 AM

Depends on the gambling.

Craps and roulette is a pure luck while, let's say, in bridge the wings of this bird are less stretched, I would say not more then for 20%. The expertise is responsible for the rest 80%.

I knew guy who could play bridge even in his sleep, and count cards unsight when gambling in casino.

Only people like your friend can make money from this, but you really need to be in this topic every moment and just enjoy learning and constantly improving yourself in this game.

As for other games, the factor of luck and professionalism is different everywhere. For example, if a beginner goes to play poker, then 8 professionals will beat him at the table and he will be their target. Of course, a beginner can get lucky in a few hands, but time works against him, because the more he plays with them, the more the luck factor decreases, in the end they will just beat him completely and leave him without a deposit. Therefore, it is better for a beginner to go play where the factor of professionalism influences the situation least of all, this could be roulette, in which luck decides absolutely everything and he will not be different from those who have been playing roulette for 30 years.

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Depends on the gambling.

Craps and roulette is a pure luck while, let's say, in bridge the wings of this bird are less stretched, I would say not more then for 20%. The expertise is responsible for the rest 80%.

I knew guy who could play bridge even in his sleep, and count cards unsight when gambling in casino.

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With all the winning scenarios that I managed to get, this taught me and also made me more convinced that gambling is an activity that completely depends on luck, for example, when I gambled very seriously with the intention and hope of winning but it turned out that the result was more losses. but on the contrary, when I felt frustrated, which ultimately made me gamble carelessly, it turned out that the result was winning and I won several times in scenarios like that, and this is what made me believe that gambling completely depends on luck.

But yes, I also admit that there are several types of betting that can be done by implementing strategies to increase the chances of winning, one of which I know is sports betting by analyzing statistical data on a team and also looking at the team's performance to make decisions about the team. whichever is predicted to be stronger, I don't bet on sports too often but I believe that in any bet luck is still the most important point to ensure victory.

I've had winning and losing streaks. When you're frustrated or going with the flow, its simple to blame luck for unexpected wins. Emotions can cloud judgment. When depressed, we may take higher chances that pay off. We may overthink our decisions and miss opportunities when we're focused on winning.

Gambling is more than luck. Psychology, strategy, and game knowledge are involved. Luck helps, but its not everything. Though fortuitous wins are nice, dont let them detract from the overall picture.

Yes because obviously I think there is nothing else that helps me make a win when I gamble carelessly other than luck, there is no strategy, no analysis whatsoever which means it is reasonable to say that wins come because luck comes at the right time, although it is quite difficult but it does happen.Sometimes even though I don't gamble based on emotion or frustration and I gamble without applying any strategy and make decisions without any consideration with the aim of testing whether luck is real or not but it turns out that yes the result is still that I have made a few wins even though not often.

Yes I understand that gambling is more than just luck, as you said that psychology, strategy and knowledge of the game are involved, but what we must understand is that however strategy is nothing more than a tool to increase the odds, meaning that if luck does not come at the right time then you will still lose, some of these things do help but I have experienced several losing streaks even though I gambled by applying all strategies, meaning that luck confirmed the victory.

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Quote from: adpinbr on May 30, 2024, 05:36:57 AM

Well, the statistics of making money from gambling is not advisable, but you can make money from gambling but it shouldn’t be your number one priority or where you depend on because it would definitely fit you sometimes not really sometimes most of the time that is why putting gambling as the number one money making Ate shouldn’t be good for you because it will really affect your well-being and you end up just losing a lot. Also losing what you didn’t think of or thought you would lose.

Exactly how it is supposed to be because gambling is not certain and as such should not be prioritized. Gamblimg should not be placed as a major source of income because you might be disappointed with the outcome, however, gambling lies in between chance and luck. it is very obvious that most of the gamblers depend solely on making money from gambling just because they have heard or seen someone make money from it, it does not happen like that because every individual have different grace and luck which invariably implies that we should not compare ourselves with another person and we should see gambling as fun and not a place to make money.

so many people have benefitted handsomely from gambling because their luck shines positively on gambling whereas there are so many others who have not benefitted anything from gambling yet they are consistent in gambling, such persons should quit gambling and consider gambling as a place to catch fun and not for the sole purpose of making money , lastly for me gambling is all about luck because no one predicts the uncertainty of the statistics behind every bet.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 21, 2024, 07:04:37 PM

Agree with this mate as you are right that anyone can even predict all the outcome of our bets. Cause we can not say that every our bet we will win. In reality gambling is base on luck not even the genius people will win 100x+ consecutive bet. Even though there's a chance every time we analyze our bet and win but not totally all the time cause there's a chance that still we have our badluck and we are always loss. But if we have our luck on our side then we will win a good amount of money.

It seems to me that brilliant gamblers don't aim to win a hundred bets in a row. They are quite enough to win 60-70% of bets and then their strategy becomes profitable. Of course, to become such a gambler must spend years of his life, not one suitcase of money and fray a lot of nerves, but someone still manages to do it. I have always believed that brilliant gamblers are some of the smartest people, because to beat the system one luck is not enough.

You are making a very good point, but first, those gamblers who are happy winning 60-70% must be betting on sports and not on casinos to make that possible, if not, I will not agree to that. This is because casino betting is merely a function of luck and nothing else, anyone who states otherwise is just deceiving himself. No one knows the person that will win the next game in the casino and no one will know the magnitude of the winning as well because the algorithms at which casinos play with are determinants here even as the house is the main beneficiary and no matter how good you think you are in playing a certain game, you can't beat the computer codes. Can you?

Are you getting it now? But one may still try to limit the effects of losses and the uncertainty caused by the house edge here, and this is best done by managing both ourselves (in terms of our emotions and general psychology to avoid losing it or getting addicted) and our general gambling portfolio. However, with sports betting, you can earn better because the odds are even in your favour and that of the house. All you need to do is to be a serious gambler who knows what he is really doing even as you manage your way to success.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 24, 2023, 12:12:16 PM

In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

I agree with you that making money from gambling is not a good idea. This is either not possible or very close to impossible. I'm not talking about victories and winning large sums of money. I'm talking about the original idea of earning money for a living by gambling. That is, when a person at some point begins to think that he is good enough to stop working and start receiving his main income from gambling. I think that this is not the best idea and most likely nothing good will come of it.
I don’t really understand what victory and defeat mean in your head. I think that some luck plays a big role in gambling or betting.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 21, 2024, 07:04:37 PM

Agree with this mate as you are right that anyone can even predict all the outcome of our bets. Cause we can not say that every our bet we will win. In reality gambling is base on luck not even the genius people will win 100x+ consecutive bet. Even though there's a chance every time we analyze our bet and win but not totally all the time cause there's a chance that still we have our badluck and we are always loss. But if we have our luck on our side then we will win a good amount of money.

It seems to me that brilliant gamblers don't aim to win a hundred bets in a row. They are quite enough to win 60-70% of bets and then their strategy becomes profitable. Of course, to become such a gambler must spend years of his life, not one suitcase of money and fray a lot of nerves, but someone still manages to do it. I have always believed that brilliant gamblers are some of the smartest people, because to beat the system one luck is not enough.

That may be people who are too focused on gambling so they think of profits above 50% but for me this is not thought at all gambling is not for profit even though we expect it.
Maybe I also for several years of gambling have spent a lot of money even though it's not big every session spent but the mind does not lead to profit so what we think gambling should be fun.
With any defeat we must be prepared for the risk.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 24, 2023, 12:12:16 PM

In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

I think winning in gambling is more about luck. There are no individual tricks or basic thoughts that can achieve victory. Of course the win rate is very low, because we are fighting the system. Even if we play live casino, of course the dealer's ability to read cards is more accurate than ours. Of the 5 people who play against the dealer, only one wins. Of course, the money we make comes from the 4 people who lost earlier, while the dealer remains in a safe position or has no loss.

Exactly, gambling is all about luck. There's nothing you can learn about gambling that will be making you win always. But one can actually reduce his losses base on the knowledge he or she has, like for instance how to gamble responsibly, because gambling in responsibly will literally help to minimize ones losses when it comes to gambling, one will be able to manage his risk to know the kind of risk he or she can take and the kind he or she can't take .

That's right, I agree with you, one of the reasons why it makes sense to say that gambling is a matter of luck is because there is absolutely nothing that can be learned from the start to be able to ensure or guarantee that you will win at the end of the session, and that's why we are always advised to gamble by only risking the amount we can afford to lose, or not exceeding our limits because the results are always unpredictable anyway.

But that doesn't mean that betting a small amount then you will be free from the risk of losing, in the end still the risk of losing has the possibility to occur at any time especially when you are unlucky, but if compared clearly the amount of our loss will not be too significant if we only bet a small amount compared to us betting a large amount because of the hope of getting a big win. And I think smart gamblers are those who are able to measure the risks they can take like the points you said.

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sportsbet doesn't depend on luck it depends on prediction the more one has good knowledge of sports the more they can win from sportsbet it requires good knowledge of how well a team player plays. then win is possible from sportsbet.

Do you think prediction doesn't rely on the luck? No matter how good your knowledge and how much your experience, the result of the match may not be in your favor due to bad luck. You can't avoid the luck factor in sports betting. Even if some gambling games require skills and proper knowledge, we cannot separate the luck factor.

True, for example in the Europa League final 2 weeks ago, Leverkusen had never lost at all in this season before the Europa League final, and Atalanta surprisingly able to beat them 3-0 in the final.
Someone who has a good knowledge of football will definitely bet on Leverkusen to win, not Atalanta.
So, if he said that sports betting does not depend on luck at all, that is a wrong statement.

Quote from: leonair on March 14, 2024, 02:25:39 AM

But other games depend on luck which are games controlled by machine or program such as slots games. no matter how accurate the predictions are, one cannot win with the confidence that is possible with sportsbet.

Playing Blackjack and Poker also requires knowledge and skill, so its not just sports.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 21, 2024, 07:04:37 PM

Agree with this mate as you are right that anyone can even predict all the outcome of our bets. Cause we can not say that every our bet we will win. In reality gambling is base on luck not even the genius people will win 100x+ consecutive bet. Even though there's a chance every time we analyze our bet and win but not totally all the time cause there's a chance that still we have our badluck and we are always loss. But if we have our luck on our side then we will win a good amount of money.

It seems to me that brilliant gamblers don't aim to win a hundred bets in a row. They are quite enough to win 60-70% of bets and then their strategy becomes profitable. Of course, to become such a gambler must spend years of his life, not one suitcase of money and fray a lot of nerves, but someone still manages to do it. I have always believed that brilliant gamblers are some of the smartest people, because to beat the system one luck is not enough.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 24, 2023, 12:12:16 PM

In my opinion making cash from gambling is not a good option and the statistical probability that you will win every game at every casino is very low. I think winning or losing every game is completely in your head, so your individual tricks are not there. However, we all have some kind of luck so we should strive for what is possible for us.

I think winning in gambling is more about luck. There are no individual tricks or basic thoughts that can achieve victory. Of course the win rate is very low, because we are fighting the system. Even if we play live casino, of course the dealer's ability to read cards is more accurate than ours. Of the 5 people who play against the dealer, only one wins. Of course, the money we make comes from the 4 people who lost earlier, while the dealer remains in a safe position or has no loss.

Exactly, gambling is all about luck. There's nothing you can learn about gambling that will be making you win always. But one can actually reduce his losses base on the knowledge he or she has, like for instance how to gamble responsibly, because gambling in responsibly will literally help to minimize ones losses when it comes to gambling, one will be able to manage his risk to know the kind of risk he or she can take and the kind he or she can't take .

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