Topic: Is gambling bad to the society? - page 12. (Read 7979 times)

you are correct, even drinking water can be bad for you if you drink too much
this is how life is and that's it
but the thing is that we can put things on perspective and know if they are good or bad overall, even if life is yin yang, some things like allowing violence without punishment are clearly more bad than good and free access to education is more good than bad

makes any sense?

thinking like that we'll probably come to the conclusion that gambling does more bad than good.

In my opinion the interest in committing a crime, if it is related to the place of residence, is not that strong. It all depends on a person's inner values, positioning in society, upbringing, etc. I worked in many large companies in my city and almost everywhere I met people who are ready to steal everything they think lies unattended. And many steal everything in a row, not even analyzing what this or that thing is for. By the way, they do not even suffer from any of the addictions, such as alcoholism, drug addiction or gambling. They don't even need money, as they work at a good enough job. It seems to me that the reason for this behavior is not the desire to get money by any means, but some psychological problem. Something like kleptomania.

Yes, but the funny thing is that most humans are capable of doing the most horrible things given the correct circumstances.

For example, in poor countries you have more petty crime in general. That's because they just don't have money. In rich countries they get paid enough to not bother with crime. It's the same people really, just the circumstances are different.

If you put someone from a rich country in a poor country with the same tools, opportunities, etc, the average person has there, then there would have a higher chance of committing petty crimes than staying in their rich country. It's just how humans work, it's not like some humans are better than others, intrinsically.

I understand that nothing is impossible to happen even though from the start you have known or considered the impact and risk, meaning I understand what you mean where even though we have considered the impact and risk, it does not mean that we will be completely free from various possibilities that can happen unexpectedly such as losing control due to falling and being carried away by the current for a reason that ultimately destroys someone's life.

I admit that it is something that is very possible, but I will try to complete my idea above that we are not only required to know the risks and impacts but we also need to consider various forms of prevention so that unwanted things can be minimized, such as implementing risk management, such as good money management, limiting the amount of money and time to bet, realizing the possibility of high risk, limiting expectations and maintaining a level of awareness within oneself.

Basically, people will still have the possibility of experiencing destruction in their lives even though not through gambling, but gambling can be one of them.

someone who is already addicted to gambling usually tends to dare to do anything that is high risk including stealing money or robbing the money to be used for gambling, this is what must be avoided because in my opinion this is what makes gambling can harm other people or society. but when viewed from the other side where there are people who gamble just for entertainment they do not cause bad impacts for themselves or others, so when there is gambling that can harm others it is caused by the individual himself who is wrong in gambling. besides that basically gambling is just entertainment so if gambling is done reasonably then there will be no bad impacts. many people who experience big losses and bad impacts from gambling are of course their own fault not the fault of gambling, also with casinos there is no element of forcing players to gamble continuously, it's just that the players themselves lose control so they play beyond reasonable limits.

There are always pros and cons in almost everything. For some, gambling does have a bad effect. Well, I won't argue with that because the effect on one person might cause terrible consequences not just for himself but also for people around him. On the other hand, the gambling industry generates a significant amount of tax revenue, which is very helpful to society as well.

even if you consider risks and impacts there's the thing that some will be able to measure it and some will let gambling take control and end up ruining their lives
do you think that if it wasn't for gambling they would ruin their lives anyways?

I don't know, I think it is at least ina balance of good and bad but probably more for the bad...

Gambling is good to the society to the best of my knowledge only that people who are unable to obey certain principles of obtaining a good gambling habits are passing negative information to the society by indulging in misconducts, such as borrowing to gamble, unnecessary spending of time and resources in gambling without taken care of their life needs and responsibilities like taken care of their health, clothing and so many other behaviors that are negatively affecting their life and the life life of those around them hence I usually say that if gambling is not good for any one such person should give it a quite to avoid such passing of negative informations towards gambling.

I think gambling addiction is a personal choice, yet the society tends to put the blame on casinos while they think addicted gamblers where fooled to behave the way they did. No addicted gambler was compelled to behave the way they did, they only got addicted because they were probably blinded by greed, the reason the generally accepted age for gambling is 18+ is because, at age 18 you're already a young adult and your responsible for the decisions you take. It's only the fault of the casino if an underage gets access to gamble  and get addicted because there was no KYC requirements to prove date of birth or other personal information.

Yes, it can be considered true that winning in gambling is a temporary result because in the end there will always be a possibility for you to experience defeat in the next few sessions in any amount, but actually it can also be a permanent victory for you if only after you have succeeded in winning then you stop completely in gambling, and yes I know that is impossible for most gamblers to do.
You also said the right thing that gambling should not be used as a place to put seriousness in terms of producing, remember a fact as you said that victory happens suddenly, meaning defeat is also very possible to occur with the same scenario.

The only fun part of gambling is that it is an activity that can trigger adrenaline and increase dopamine levels through the course of the game that makes me feel an unusual sensation and for me this is quite an entertaining activity when I have boring free time, but of course I will never eliminate awareness in myself because awareness is something that is quite important to be used as a tool for prevention, because in some cases gamblers often get carried away easily due to overreaction in responding to pleasant situations, so the point is regardless of your purpose of gambling, remember that caution and awareness must always be applied, addiction can happen at any time without you realizing it.

I think we need to look at it differently. There are two types of people: responsible and irresponsible. And it is not so important whether they gamble or not. A responsible person knows what's in moderation. He can even break some laws, but he does not engage in criminal activity, because he does not want to cause any harm to society. He uses only honestly earned money for entertainment.

An irresponsible person for the sake of his desires is capable of many things, including crimes.

That is why I say that the problem is not gambling, but people themselves and their upbringing.

I see that there are two main points that I can take from your opinion my friend, the first is that there are some gamblers including you who are still fine even though they have been involved in this activity for years, and the second is that there are other gamblers who experience many problems in their lives as a result of gambling itself, meaning if it has been proven that there are some people who remain safe in the long term without experiencing any setbacks and problems as a result of gambling then why are there other people who experience the opposite?

I think it is clear that there is something that distinguishes between these two types of gamblers, and the only difference is the understanding and approach they have. Basically there is no coercion from the casino to gamblers to continue gambling, this is a choice in the sense that when you have money to bet then you can do it but if otherwise then you can gamble at another time, or in simple terms you have full access whenever you want.

Another thing related to gamblers who eventually commit various criminal acts, I think it is clear that I will agree with you that these criminal acts come from the ideas of the gamblers themselves, because as I said above that there is no coercion from the casino to you to always gamble, so you don't need to justify any means to get money to fulfill your gambling habits, remember that gambling is not bad, and what is actually bad is the behavior of the gamblers themselves who always try to justify any means to realize something that has no certainty and guarantee such as winning.

I've been gambling for years, but I haven't committed a single crime because of it. I know many responsible gamblers who are also not in the habit of engaging in criminal activity.

Therefore, I think it is wrong to call the love of gambling a criminal activity. Criminal activity comes from a person, and such a person may not be interested in gambling. He is interested in money obtained illegally. There are criminals in every corner of the world, no matter how much we all would like it.

Gambling income is temporary income, it comes suddenly and sometimes you lose everything. Gambling should not be used seriously for this. Gambling is a fun place Gambling games are very fun and there is more excitement than normal games because there is an opportunity to place bets. If one member of a family is addicted to gambling, the whole family will slowly be destroyed. So beware of gambling. And gambling addiction can destroy a family very quickly because society is always against gambling. Because every society wants every family to be happy and peaceful

Gambling is not a crime to society but only when you engage in criminal activities to manage gambling money is a crime to society. There is a class of people in the society who find entertainment in gambling and gambling can never be considered a crime. However, when gambling involves theft, robbery and other heinous crimes to manage gambling money, gambling certainly brings negative effects to society.

Betting too often is not the problem the problem is allowing gambling activities to influence your life negatively, there is nothing absolutely wrong if one can be gambling often without allowing the gambling to affect their normal life, for me I will say that gambling money should be more like a disposable income after ensuring that we have taken care of our personal needs such that it will not become problematic to your living expenses, when one understand the level of time , energy and other resources to be allocated gambling and just stay within the limit can be a good approach towards gambling.

Logically I would say that gambling is not bad for society but gambling only has a bad stigma from most of society and the bad stigma is formed because of gamblers who always try to treat gambling in the wrong way, meaning of course everything will not have too bad an impact if from the start you know how it works, and this applies to anything you do in life.

Therefore from the start in anything, never try anything that you do not know the risks or impacts, I understand that it always takes a trial at the beginning to find out the mistakes and truths, but I think there is no reason that makes sense when we are able to see that other people's experiences can be used as learning materials.

The many views of society about the badness of gambling must be fixed even though it seems impossible to happen. Gambling is actually not bad, because in my opinion smart or wise people will not gamble wrongly, meaning when they experience defeat or lose money, they will not continue to gamble. With many people who judge gambling badly because many people are already miserable because of gambling, but if examined again, the misery occurs because they themselves are too excessive in gambling.

People who seek profit like this tend to experience misery because of the feeling of annoyance when they lose, making them unable to accept the defeat so that what they do is gamble again and again because they want to get a win that can cover the losses that have occurred. It is clear that if we think wrongly or gamble wrongly, it can destroy the future, but try to look at the other side, when gambling is done correctly, there will be no bad impacts that will occur.

This is why addiction is always a bad phase that we should avoid, I understand that even though you already have a good approach based on the right understanding, it cannot always prevent you from the possibility of falling into addiction unconsciously, but of course by having awareness of the dangers of the risks of addiction by implementing various forms of caution such as a good and balanced approach is indeed much better than not preparing any preventive measures.

On the other hand, as you said, even though we have realized and found that we are addicted, it certainly does not mean that you can get out of the addiction phase in a short time, or what is meant is that even though you are aware of the addiction you are experiencing, you still need a process to eliminate various excessive actions and mindsets towards gambling and that takes a long time.

The increase in the population of gamblers who fall into addiction is a worrying situation, the crime rate can increase and the level of people who end up stressed or committing suicide will also continue to increase, meaning that the impact will not only harm yourself but also others, especially those around us. Although I understand that overall this is the government's job, of course everything must start from the smallest, or I mean at least from ourselves, at least we are not included in the list of people who will eventually become addicted by always maintaining awareness, acknowledging that the risk of addiction can really destroy all aspects of our lives, as well as implementing various actions as a form of caution and prevention.

There are many thoughts that say that it is good or bad, but personally I say that each person has their own way of thinking, their own way of seeing things, the game will always be for those who want it their own way, but conceptually I see that it is not bad, but of course, you have to respect the fact that there are people who have their customs, their religion, their beliefs, all of this is what things are based on for the game, and each thought must be respected, for me that is the basis of everything, even in the debates that form here in these threads.