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Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

Gambling can affect self-esteem, relationship's, physical and mental health,work performance and social life. It can harm not only the person who gambles but also the family, friends, workplaces and communities.

So with all this I think if they put an restrictions on gambling it's not a bad idea at all, first why is gambling a problem?

Gambling can stimulate the brain's rewards system much like drugs or alcohol can, leading to addiction. If you have a problem with compulsive gambling, you may continually chase bets that lead to losses, use up savings and create debt.

You may hide your behavior and even turn to theft or fraud to support your addiction. So with my conclusion and my observation towards this gambling is really cousin harm to the life of those ones who are addicted to it most their families.

Secondly what are the social problem caused by gambling?
(1) Depression and suicide
(2) bankruptcy, family-break up
(3) domestic abuse
(4) assault, fraud
(5) theft, and even homeless
Addiction to gambling is link to a range of serious personal and social harm such as those things I mentioned. These effects can be devastating to the individual as well as their friends, family, workplaces and community.

This are the harms and with all this are the reasons why, they see people who gambles as a distraction towards the society and the most people who are into all this are the addicted ones. So how is gambling harmful to the society, ills associate with problem gamblers are widespread and often go beyond and addition to gambling.

People who gambles can be at risk of this following categories of harm.
(1) Financial harms
(2) Erosion of savings
(3) Filling for bankruptcy
(4) Relationship conflicts
(5) Neglect of relationship with significant other
(6) Neglect of relationship with children
(7) Extend family and friends
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Social isolation
(9) Emotional or psychological distress

So I don't really blame the people who sees gambling as a bad thing to the society, meanwhile If the younger ones take of the steps of being addicted don't you think they'll experience all this as well. So gambling it's bad to the society nevertheless it's also helping in the other hands, to ones which are benefiting and earning from it.

What is the mindset of a gambler? On my opinion pathological gamblers play the cope with a life stresses. Near-misses and personal choice give some gamblers a sense of control, winning money. Others believe they can beat the casino and win real money.

So the mindset are those things that attract harm to them and the society because they are focused on the money, and that's why I said it's also helping some people in other hands and it's also killing some people right now in the society. Behavior also involves that makes it look bad to the society, while trying to get back lost money by gambling more( chasing losses) lying to family members or other to hide the extent of your gambling.

Risking or losing important relationships, a job, or school or work opportunities because of gambling. Asking others to bail you out of financial trouble cause you have gambled money away.

So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

Researches shown there is a connection between gambling behaviour and societal issues like crime.

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Well, a lot of things could happen if society encounters gambling at an early age then it could seep into the parts of relationships, health, social interactions, and just pure mayhem just because of the addictions. We all know that it's addictive and could lead to deceit like what the other people have said.

As members of society, we all know the overall effects but it's up to the person whether he will have control.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

I think you approached the topic from one angle, to address the social effects of gambling, and I agree with everything you said. But there is also the economic aspect that also affects society in one way or another.
What I mean by the economic aspect is all those companies active in the gambling industry and whose activities provide jobs for many people, including employees and all workers in gambling service companies, such as game provider companies that employ developers and programmers.
Let us not ignore that practicing gambling as a hobby is essentially an entertainment culture that societies have become accustomed to practicing in various forms. Historically, betting was the only income to continue sports within an organized framework, since betting appeared with sports before evolving to include other types of games.
The difference with what we see today is that this culture has become a productive economic sector regulated by the state with its various institutions. This sector also provides huge resources to the state in the form of taxes.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

You may hide your behavior and even turn to theft or fraud to support your addiction. So with my conclusion and my observation towards this gambling is really cousin harm to the life of those ones who are addicted to it most their families.

Secondly what are the social problem caused by gambling?
(1) Depression and suicide
(2) bankruptcy, family-break up
(3) domestic abuse
(4) assault, fraud
(5) theft, and even homeless

Gambling is never viewed favorably in society. Moreover, if someone is asked about the benefits of gambling, he will not find it, but when he is asked to find out the negative aspects, he will easily point out those points. We know the consequences of gambling addiction are bad. But in spite of knowing the fact few people conduct gambling aggressively there and at some point they become poison in the eyes of the society. I'm gambling myself, setting my limits is my own responsibility, but I can't blame anyone else for my mistakes. I have to bear the responsibility of losing my money beyond what I am willing to lose on the gambling platform.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on May 25, 2024, 11:26:06 AM

Gambling certainly has some downsides and some upsides, especially when it comes to family matters, considering the financial impact gambling can have on a family. Gamblers in countries that are poor countries lose their gambling bets, bankrupt their families and cause family turmoil as well as abuse of their wives to pay off their gambling money.
However, in some countries, the government approves gambling and casino sites by imposing high taxes, but in most countries, they do not legalize gambling because they imagine the terrible side of gambling. Gambling is largely responsible for the degeneration of a country's youth, so considering the overall situation of a country, one has to be in a dilemma about the legality of gambling.

I think that gambling does not only have a bad side, but gambling also has a positive side. with those who experience the destruction of relationships in their households, such as their finances being disorganized because they are only used by addicts for gambling, of course this can cause difficulties for their families. with those who only spend their money on gambling, of course it can make their family fall apart, where other family members may have financial difficulties because with messy finances they only spend it on gambling.
Also, apart from that, there are many cases of domestic violence and divorce cases because among them there is one person who is so addicted to gambling that they cannot get rid of their addiction, it actually makes them lose their family and also what they have. Gambling depends on each individual, if they misunderstand gambling then it is possible that they will experience life destruction.

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Quote from: Solosanz on May 25, 2024, 11:39:26 AM

Yes, gambling is bad to the society if the gambler is poor and keep creating new problem to other people.

Gambling isn't bad to the society if the gambler is rich and he like to help other people by giving free money, people will think he's like a God and gambling isn't a problem at all.

Can you see the difference? I believe you can. Wink

I don't agree to compare with your opinion even though some gamblers win the jackpot which can make them rich, but gambling wins are due to luck and only luck. We are back to discussing the topic, the bad effects of gambling are very real and we need to provide solutions to deal with addicted gamblers to get out of the wrong way of gambling, we have to apply rules, especially setting fund limits to avoid losses from gambling because losses in gambling can affect depression and mental health. Generally the negative impact of gambling due to mismanagement of finances exceeding the capacity to use funds for gambling has been suggested, some gamblers give the opinion of using 3-5% of monthly income for gambling to avoid high losses from betting.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

I think is still bad to also have this thinking I may say because when you take it as hubby or a place where you would earn money then it would cause more harm to you. To me I just see it as place to ease one's stress maybe after having a toughly working day or feeling so stressed out you can go to the gambling site or casino house to ease some stress away by gambling with some friends over there or having to play some real games by doing that you can stake little money that you can afford lose without attaching much value to it or in a way it would affects our overall thinking and, at this point you wouldn't include so much greed and expectation to earn a specific amount at the end of the gambling, maybe just a little amount you could used to branch at coffee house to take a cup of tea and then drive down home to your house.

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Depending on the place, each activity is normal and each activity is different. Gambling is considered a curse in some societies while there are societies where gambling is considered a normal sport. Gambling is against the law in some countries and if the people of those countries gamble then surely the civil society of that country including the government of that country will not accept gambling as normal. However, although gambling is prohibited in some countries and gambling is normal in some countries, gamblers must gamble in privacy, especially in societies where gambling is not considered normal. Because when a gambler does not gamble in his privacy, he will be looked down upon by the people of that society and it will have a bad effect on his normal life. I am gambling myself and risking money myself, so there is no need to tell others about my gambling.

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Yes, gambling is bad to the society if the gambler is poor and keep creating new problem to other people.

Gambling isn't bad to the society if the gambler is rich and he like to help other people by giving free money, people will think he's like a God and gambling isn't a problem at all.

Can you see the difference? I believe you can. Wink

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 25, 2024, 11:13:53 AM

Is gambling bad to the society? I dont know maybe some people are considering gambling bad to society but there are also people consider gambling has benefit tho we dont talk about religion here some country make gambling legal and have tax on it and the money from gambling tax can be use for other good purpose and can also be use to help the society and this is just my opinion

Gambling certainly has some downsides and some upsides, especially when it comes to family matters, considering the financial impact gambling can have on a family. Gamblers in countries that are poor countries lose their gambling bets, bankrupt their families and cause family turmoil as well as abuse of their wives to pay off their gambling money.
However, in some countries, the government approves gambling and casino sites by imposing high taxes, but in most countries, they do not legalize gambling because they imagine the terrible side of gambling. Gambling is largely responsible for the degeneration of a country's youth, so considering the overall situation of a country, one has to be in a dilemma about the legality of gambling.

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 25, 2024, 11:13:53 AM

Is gambling bad to the society? I dont know maybe some people are considering gambling bad to society but there are also people consider gambling has benefit tho we dont talk about religion here some country make gambling legal and have tax on it and the money from gambling tax can be use for other good purpose and can also be use to help the society and this is just my opinion

At what cost does this come though?This can have a very bad impact on the people who gamble because although gambling is not completely bad it can have consequences,some of them I am listing here which are,addiction,financial problems,crime and family issues like a lot of divorces.Where I live the majority of divorces come exactly because of male gambling and women leaving them asking for a divorce as they cannot have an healthy family or relation to keep raising a beautiful and stable family.So the tax is beneficial to the government who implements it yet at what cost,at a higher cost because unwillingly is leading to having a lot of divorces as the example above or increased criminality and a lot of other reasons that span from gambling when not addressed correctly.

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Quote from: 7juju on May 25, 2024, 03:15:07 AM

Everything you have said it's true for people who cannot manage their gambling habbits. There are those who gambles responsible and they haven't been caught up with any of those things you have just mentioned. Gambling can't be as bad as many non gamblers paints it to be, gambling helps I reducing depression for responsible gamblers. For me the reason why the government won't ban gambling is that gambling is a part of life and it's benefits outweight the disadvantages and in ever 10 gamblers, you will find about 2 addicted gamblers, so the number of responsible gamblers is more than that of addicted gamblers. So we can't take the activities of few individuals and put to an end what's benefiting millions of people worldwide.

I should have just highlighted the few lines or points you want to respond to without quoting the entire thread.

Not every country supports gambling, as they don't even see it as something that can have a positive impact on their society. In countries like Japan, Brunei, North Korea, the United Arab Emirate, Qatar, and Singapore, you can even be sent to jail to serve a two-year sentence if you are caught getting yourself involved in gambling.

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Is gambling bad to the society? I dont know maybe some people are considering gambling bad to society but there are also people consider gambling has benefit tho we dont talk about religion here some country make gambling legal and have tax on it and the money from gambling tax can be use for other good purpose and can also be use to help the society and this is just my opinion

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

Gambling is bad for those who cannot control their finances, control their ambitions, control their time, control their personality and most importantly control their mindset, for people who cannot do that, no matter how good gambling will be very bad for people who do not have that.

Why? yes because gambling is very sensitive to emotions and finances, it will have a very bad impact on a person's psychological side which makes a person able to behave impulsively to kill himself, and people who consider gambling as a place to make money or a living or even a hobby, it is not a good thing, and people who survive gambling are people who must be very good at controlling themselves from any reference that gambling gives us.

The thing is that many people just feel they can get huge profits since that's the picture the whole business but the undeniable truth is that business owner that have casino are using it as business means and in order for them to get rich you probably need to be on the losing side so that they can get their money and believe me it's one of the most profitable businesses out there in the economic world the only disadvantage it has for them is that to start up a casino requires huge amount of cash if not many would have used it the alternative way.

On a general discussion, gambling is not bad or harmful to the society, just that more people are now beginning to abuse it by getting addicted and that alone has changed the view of how people see it in the society. It is now a big deal if some sets of people see's you gambling, they generalize it as being resource wasteful and categories that person as doing something illegal. Gambling is essentially for fun and anyone who choose to abuse it will face the consequences of his actions.

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Quote from: bangjoe on May 25, 2024, 03:29:44 AM

Quote from: Ojinga on May 23, 2024, 03:10:29 PM

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So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?

Gambling is bad for those who cannot control their finances, control their ambitions, control their time, control their personality and most importantly control their mindset, for people who cannot do that, no matter how good gambling will be very bad for people who do not have that.

Why? yes because gambling is very sensitive to emotions and finances, it will have a very bad impact on a person's psychological side which makes a person able to behave impulsively to kill himself, and people who consider gambling as a place to make money or a living or even a hobby, it is not a good thing, and people who survive gambling are people who must be very good at controlling themselves from any reference that gambling gives us.

The thing is that many people just feel they can get huge profits since that's the picture the whole business but the undeniable truth is that business owner that have casino are using it as business means and in order for them to get rich you probably need to be on the losing side so that they can get their money and believe me it's one of the most profitable businesses out there in the economic world the only disadvantage it has for them is that to start up a casino requires huge amount of cash if not many would have used it the alternative way.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 24, 2024, 05:54:50 PM

why will a gambler allow themselves to be addicted? First it wasn't their intention to get addicted but along side they get along with it and then they take it like a hobby to them. But nevertheless when chasing for the losses it's makes you more addictive you'll never notice it not until you find yourself restless when you don't stake a game a day, it's not their decision to get addicted, okay let me give an example! ( It's like someone into drugs habits you don't really know when the drugs are running all over your system, the first time you took it. It'll be as if you really want it but after that day you're going to need more of it, cause you like the vibe that the drugs gave to you when you're on it. Same like gambling you don't really know how you get addicted to it if only someone told you that you're gambling too much. That's for my own opinion. What do you think?

If you read correctly the other things I said in my first comment, I made it Clare that being addicted to gambling is a decision taken by the gambler which I would not still tell you a different thing. Gambling addiction doesn't happen suddenly, it's a process which gradually start and the gambler needs to be ignorant about the change in their gambling habit before they can become addicted but if you tackle your gambling lifestyle, their is no how you can become addicted. Since gambling addiction is a process, it still requires the consciousness and decision of the gambler to approve of being addicted of not.

Any consequences on which anyone do able to experience or able to have on it is just because on the decisions that they had made out. Gambling is literally just that a game on which you would needing money for you to make bets on which it is something which is enforced or something that do really make you needing to bet but rather this is option or really just that depending on you. So the ones who would really be blamed is only yourself on the moment that you do put up yourself on such tough situation just because you had made out some bad decision towards your betting and this is something that you should realize for yourself.
Gambling isnt bad as long you would really be responsible on the actions that you are making and not really that being blinded with greed on which this is something important.

You are the ones who would really be leading into your life condition on which it would really be basing up on the actions that you are making on which if you do tend yourself having that uncontrolled spending then
you would be just that basically putting up yourself on such trouble. If you are someone whose really that responsible towards actions then it wont really be that much of an issue
whether you would be doing gambling or not. It all matters with self control and discipline towards your spending.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 24, 2024, 05:54:50 PM

why will a gambler allow themselves to be addicted? First it wasn't their intention to get addicted but along side they get along with it and then they take it like a hobby to them. But nevertheless when chasing for the losses it's makes you more addictive you'll never notice it not until you find yourself restless when you don't stake a game a day, it's not their decision to get addicted, okay let me give an example! ( It's like someone into drugs habits you don't really know when the drugs are running all over your system, the first time you took it. It'll be as if you really want it but after that day you're going to need more of it, cause you like the vibe that the drugs gave to you when you're on it. Same like gambling you don't really know how you get addicted to it if only someone told you that you're gambling too much. That's for my own opinion. What do you think?

If you read correctly the other things I said in my first comment, I made it Clare that being addicted to gambling is a decision taken by the gambler which I would not still tell you a different thing. Gambling addiction doesn't happen suddenly, it's a process which gradually start and the gambler needs to be ignorant about the change in their gambling habit before they can become addicted but if you tackle your gambling lifestyle, their is no how you can become addicted. Since gambling addiction is a process, it still requires the consciousness and decision of the gambler to approve of being addicted of not.

Yes I agree with your idea that gambling addiction does not happen suddenly, however there is always a process first that makes a gambler begin to develop an interest in gambling and this happens slowly and usually without them realizing it so that they eventually enter the addiction phase, and this scenario is real which I think lately more gamblers do not realize that they have entered the addiction phase, there is no identification action they take to find out the signs and all they feel is experiencing financial problems continuously.

And this is also one of the reasons why a gambler should always be careful and also should always gamble with a state of mind, and as I said above that gambling addiction mostly occurs without the gambler realizing it, meaning that I don't believe that addiction can come with the consent of the gambler, and sometimes even if for example they know that gambling can be addictive, they don't know whether they are addicted or not.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 24, 2024, 05:54:50 PM

why will a gambler allow themselves to be addicted? First it wasn't their intention to get addicted but along side they get along with it and then they take it like a hobby to them. But nevertheless when chasing for the losses it's makes you more addictive you'll never notice it not until you find yourself restless when you don't stake a game a day, it's not their decision to get addicted, okay let me give an example! ( It's like someone into drugs habits you don't really know when the drugs are running all over your system, the first time you took it. It'll be as if you really want it but after that day you're going to need more of it, cause you like the vibe that the drugs gave to you when you're on it. Same like gambling you don't really know how you get addicted to it if only someone told you that you're gambling too much. That's for my own opinion. What do you think?

If you read correctly the other things I said in my first comment, I made it Clare that being addicted to gambling is a decision taken by the gambler which I would not still tell you a different thing. Gambling addiction doesn't happen suddenly, it's a process which gradually start and the gambler needs to be ignorant about the change in their gambling habit before they can become addicted but if you tackle your gambling lifestyle, their is no how you can become addicted. Since gambling addiction is a process, it still requires the consciousness and decision of the gambler to approve of being addicted of not.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 25, 2024, 06:00:36 AM

Then, literally speaking, it is really bad, because this is what has formed in the minds of the majority of people that gambling is bad because there are many ruined lives and suicides
due to gambling addiction. But the truth is that it is up to the gambler how he handled it because if it is wrong, the outcome will be really bad, but if it is right, for sure it might have helped him.

Yes, gamblers who think that this is the solution to their financial problem will suffer difficulties in life. Because no matter how much they spend in gambling and how long they've been doing this it won't change and increase the chances of winning still, it lies on luck. This thing must be understood first before gambling and change our mindset because gambling is not a money maker that makes a gambler become rich but this is just for fun and entertainment instead.

As a gambler, I would say we should be responsible and if we introduce gambling to the people around we should give them time to educate them as well and tell them what are possible things may happen to us.

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Gambling is considered bad by society because gambling is a game that involves money and many people suffer from gambling and there are many loss factors as you mentioned above, even though it all depends on the gambler himself. If the gambler is responsible and can control himself, of course not it will be too detrimental to yourself, your family or partner, but if you gamble irresponsibly and become addicted, you, your family and your partner will feel disadvantaged by the gambler's own attitude, which is easily emotional and takes out his losses on other people because he cannot accept defeat.

This is what most people consider gambling to be bad, but behind it all, not all gamblers are like that because there are still many gamblers who are responsible and don't gamble often so they can prevent bad things like gambling addiction. The most important thing is being able to manage their finances properly and control your finances so you don't gamble excessively because if you can't manage your finances you will experience bigger losses and that is the beginning of the gambler losing control.

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