Topic: Is https://shop-antminer.com/store/ a scam website? Ordered D3 Antminers - page 2. (Read 8190 times)

I went there myself after seeing a post (in the ethereum.org forums) and threw 5 in my cart... then, after my left brain smacked my right brain, I went in to my bitmain acct. (the legit site) and found they've not released the next batch.  I instantly went hunting for the truth, and I'm sorry to say I've not found anything good.

The first question one should ask themselves is; Would bitmain sell on a secondary website?   NO, I can't see why they would.
2nd; If a reseller in China actually had this kind of stock of Sept batch ASICs, would they be selling them 10% less than bitmain's release prices? NO WAY.  Sept batch S9s are selling for 7-9k, so does it make sense to sell them for $1199?

I really feel for you, and the hundreds who appear to have been swindled. They only take crypto, so I don't know of any recourse.  Which they knew as well.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'll not be ordering those 5 units.  


For those who have been taken and are trying to find a legal means to start, I would suggest Interpol Cyber Crimes Division
https://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas/Cybercrime/Cybercrime

IF this is as big as I would imagine it is they will be very interested in finding these people.

Hello SuperSoloKing,
I filed a consumer complaint with the FTC here: ( I did it, even though I am not American )
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-3

I found this suspects individual homepage here:
http://mrbryceguy.000webhostapp.com/

I also tried calling the Kansas City Police Department but could not get through, they seem busy ( since his personal domain page shows a location in Kansas city as well as in Europe -> Cyprus and Lithuania )
https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/mrbryceguy.000webhostapp.com

I will try again to call the police department during my night time ( your day time if your in America )

Regards

Hello Manay24,
I do understand that anyone can take a picture from anywhere and post it up.
I am not accusing him of it.  I just found a clue.
Who knows, maybe we can trace back to the IP location to where this person posted their ad onto the BITMAIN page, right?
Don't you think that better than doing nothing?
I would rather do something than nothing, I won't ever let this individual(s) get away with stealing my hard earned money.

Regards

That was one of the ads that I saw -- from which I went to their website.
I think anyway that we can use to catch this guy will be great.

Thanks for the research fynxgloire!

Do you realise  anyone can take screenshot from any video? how do you know this is the guy who scammed you?  may be the scammer took screenshot from this guy's uploaded Video.

Guys,
I need your help.
After searching the internet and gatherin many clues, I think I found out the culprit.

He left an advertisement here:
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/4686
and here:
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/4630

The same picture of the thumbnail is the guy in the video below.
His Youtube channel is here:
I found his video also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317wqakIKx8

How do we catch this guy?
Can I call the police in America from where I am in Asia?

Regards

Hi Wysi,
thx for the information.
I did file a report online ( since I am not in the US, but  it was with the Internet Crime Complaint Center) here:
https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

The problem is I am not sure if the culprits were in the US, although I did have a suspicion that they may have been since all their emails they sent to me was during the US working hours ( which I found to be strange since here in Asia where I live it is past midnight, yet they were replying to my emails. ).

Has anyone who got scammed live in the US?
If so could you please file a police report?

Regards

you were probably seeing a cached version.  It was taken down when I posted it.

I had another email from their host.

They said they would be happy to pass on all the info they have to the police if you have filed a report.

IP, name, address, how they paid etc.

If they are US based and used their actual bank account then they might be able to catch them.

Thanks Supersoloking,
In addition I also found this website, it is a startup though: https://giga-watt.com/
They claim to have the cheapest electricity in the world, in addition to selling miners at a reasonable price.
Have you heard of them, I guess they are new, but a lot of people have already paid for their ICO.
I believe they will be in operation later on this month.
What do you think of this place?

Regards
Sean

Hi fynxgloire,
I checked out the companies website.  It appears that they have been around for a while...maybe not in the same line of business.
I like the fact that you can order with PayPal because we would have recourse in case there is any issues...

This is what I found about them:
By Post:
CLOUDSIGMA AG
Badenerstrasse 549,
8048 Zürich
Switzerland
By Email: [email protected]

cloudsigma.comUpdated 3 days ago
DOMAIN INFORMATION
Domain:cloudsigma.com
Registrar:Tucows Domains Inc.
Registration Date:2009-08-27
Expiration Date:2022-08-27
Updated Date:2017-04-04
Status:clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
Name Servers:ns.cloudsigma.com
ns.sjc.cloudsigma.com
sns.cloudsigma.com

I will check to see if they can provide me a telephone number so that I can speak to some one directly.
I have a feeling that they work as middle men with the Chinese manufacturers and that is why they can give the guarantees they give.
i.e: "CloudSigma is pleased to offer this exclusive opportunity to pre-order crypto-currency mining equipment on a risk free basis*."

Hi @fynxgloire,
So I also got taken by the scam.  Normally I am quite prudent and I check everything before I commit to any purchase online.
I know that there are a lot of scammy sites out there, but for whatever reason, I did not check this one.

When I told my wife about my purchase (2 L3+ and 2 power supplies = $4507...sent in BTC), her first reaction was "..that sounds too good to be true; are you sure these people are legit?"

That was the question I should have asked myself first before spending the money.  In addition, I know that crypto transactions are not reversible...once I sent the funds, they are gone and so I needed to trust that the transaction will be legit.  But I ignored my instincts and went ahead with the transactions anyway.

I just checked WHOIS.com and here is the information that I found:
DOMAIN INFORMATION
Domain:shop-antminer.com
Registrar:Hostinger UAB
Registration Date:2017-08-05
Expiration Date:2018-08-05
Updated Date:2017-08-05
Status:clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:ns1.hostinger.co.uk
ns2.hostinger.co.uk
ns3.hostinger.co.uk
ns4.hostinger.co.uk
REGISTRANT CONTACT
Name:Bitmain Antminer
Organization:Bitmain Antminer
Street:Building 25, North Olympic Baosheng South Road, ,
City:Haidian District
State:Beijing
Postal Code:100029
Country:VN
Phone:+84.4008908855
Email:[email protected]


They registered the site just on August 5th 2017; so they couldn't have been able to have shipped any units. If I had checked this before like I usually did; I wouldn't have fallen for this.  In addition, now their site is no longer online. Which means they did a hit and run .

I traced the Bitcoin address, I sent the payment to and noticed that they had transferred the funds to a final destination: 1R5gqq66UBDiCyzHtuAtkyh5MpVGPDJG8

At this address, they have managed to accumulate: 6962.4998 BTC in this account and there have been 162 transfers.  I think that this is what they do.  They setup these fake sites and run it for a few days and then they shut down and setup another.

It shows that their address is in Beijing to match Bitmain address, but then the registration address for the domain is showing Vietnam.

Anyways, this is a confirmed SCAM!  I hope that people see this and that it helps prevent someone else being scammed.  It took me 2 years to collect and mine all that Bitcoin and now it is gone. Quite painful, but I believe that everything happens for a reason and so I shall carry on.

Thanks for reading

The problem is I still see their website up:
https://shop-antminer.com/store/

They need to be shut down permanently, I don't think there is any way to get my money back...

REKT

 

Thanks for their twitter feed, I am following them now,....

If you follow Bitmain on Twitter you can see the warning they have been posting warnings ( Only buy from Bitmain.com) I dont believe Bitmain has any legit re-sellers. Any re-seller that actually sell you an Antminer basically purchased them on web site from Bitmain to resell.

https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/893477229535010818

Hi,
yes I just contact the main BITMAIN and told them what happened to me.  The fake site states that they are partners of the main BITMAIN manufacturer, so I will find out soon enough if they are actual partners of a scam site. ( I still think they are a scam, unless I actual get a delivery from FED EX )
They are not responding to any of my emails, yet when I sent an email from an anonymous email address they respond right away as per below:

Le 2017-08-11 15:14, fynx gloire a écrit :
Hello this is Mark,
do you have any Antminer D3's in stock?



Hi fynx gloire,

All the antminer units of D3 are in stock now,

D3 $1599 : https://shop-antminer.com/product/bitmain-antminer-d3-15ghs/

Thanks.
Best regards
Support Team.

Its a scam, another user who ordered from there just told me 8 other users emailed him with the same results.....

I meant shop.bitmain.com is!