Topic: Is it completely legal in the US to buy BTC on one exchange and sell on another? (Read 1227 times)
February 19, 2016, 05:18:03 AM
It isn't illegal to buy it. Bitcoin is just code, so that's all you have to think about.
November 01, 2015, 05:02:19 PM
You can sell space in your womb just fine to create people, but don't mess with that money stuff.
lol'ed
November 01, 2015, 04:34:49 PM
You can sell space in your womb just fine to create people, but don't mess with that money stuff.
November 01, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
I find it crazy that someone from the land of the free is wondering if they will be jailed by the prince of peace for buying and selling digital tokens.
Juat sayin'.
Joe
Juat sayin'.
Joe
Yes, isn't this something!! The land of the free where free doesn't really mean anything.
It's good that you are double checking this OP after all the twilight stories we could hear coming from the states in the connection with bitcoins.
I would also say that you would be fine with doing this as long as you comply with all of the KYC procedures.
The only thing that I don't feel competent speaking about is what if you make profit from your doings. I guess that you would have to report this to the IRS, otherwise you would probably be breaking the law.
November 01, 2015, 01:09:56 PM
I find it crazy that someone from the land of the free is wondering if they will be jailed by the prince of peace for buying and selling digital tokens.
Juat sayin'.
Joe
Juat sayin'.
Joe
Yup. Don't mess with the USA and control over money...
November 01, 2015, 11:20:52 AM
I find it crazy that someone from the land of the free is wondering if they will be jailed by the prince of peace for buying and selling digital tokens.
Juat sayin'.
Joe
Juat sayin'.
Joe
November 01, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
Legality won't be your problem. Breaching the terms and conditions of the private companies you're using may well be. There are a lot of eyes on them.
November 01, 2015, 10:47:55 AM
Coinbase monitors its customer's accounts for high volume activity inconsistent with personal use, and closes then irrespective of whether selling on another exchange is legal or not. People who buy there and sell on Localbitcoins have been known to have their Coinbase accounts closed for it.
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
Coinbase TOS is not the law. What they are referring to is buying BTC on coinbase and then selling it at a premium on LBC, and are doing so because of the high risks associated with selling on LBC (both financial and legal).https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
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Coinbase customers may not, however, use their Coinbase Accounts to engage as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for fiat currency, funds, or other virtual currency. Coinbase reserves the right to limit your account use if we detect activity which constitutes a violation of this policy and/or our User Terms. We further reserve the right to limit your account use if your account is associated with high-volume activity inconsistent with personal use.
If you were to engage in arb trading with coinbase as one of the exchanges then they might not be as upset as if you were buying on coinbase and then turning around and selling on LBC.
IMO, for the most part arb trading is probably not going to be profitable due to the length of time is takes to get fiat out on an exchange and because of trading fees charged for removing liquidity from an exchange's order book
November 01, 2015, 09:46:08 AM
Would it be more profitable to buy on Chinese exchange and sell on US market?
It would be harder for US based exchanges to trace those trades there, due to high trading volume.
It would be harder for US based exchanges to trace those trades there, due to high trading volume.
November 01, 2015, 09:41:32 AM
Yes, it is completely legal to buy btc in US on exchange ad sell on another. Very few people know about it, but this can bring a lot of benefits and profit for you. It's completely legal and authorised by govt. So no problems here.
November 01, 2015, 02:51:15 AM
If you can explain your reason and if it is legal, you need not worry about the red flags. It is just a bit of inconvenience if you have to constantly explain yourself when you get
these calls. This is a example given by Coinbase --> " Suppose your daily buy limit is $10,000 and you transfer $1,000 to your Coinbase Exchange balance. Your remaining buy limit for the day will now be $9,000. However, if you then transfer $1,000 from the Exchange, your remaining buy limit will increase back to $10,000. Coinbase limits the amount of buying and selling you can perform each day both in order to comply with regulations, and as a security precaution. "
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1995990-coinbase-exchange-limits-explained
these calls. This is a example given by Coinbase --> " Suppose your daily buy limit is $10,000 and you transfer $1,000 to your Coinbase Exchange balance. Your remaining buy limit for the day will now be $9,000. However, if you then transfer $1,000 from the Exchange, your remaining buy limit will increase back to $10,000. Coinbase limits the amount of buying and selling you can perform each day both in order to comply with regulations, and as a security precaution. "
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1995990-coinbase-exchange-limits-explained
November 01, 2015, 02:46:52 AM
govt consider you suspicious just for doing high volumes?! Regulations force you to become more legit than using fiat ie, pay more taxes get the gov nose in your business. nobody in their right mind would use crytpo for something illegal.
November 01, 2015, 02:34:20 AM
People who buy there and sell on Localbitcoins have been known to have their Coinbase accounts closed for it.
That's why you should always use a mixing service when transferring out of your Coinbase wallet. If your account raises red flags you'll start getting e-mails from their compliance team
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/30vbkn/coinbase_compliance_email_worse_than_any_bank_i/
November 01, 2015, 02:23:55 AM
I couldn't find a completely straight answer on this when relating to Bitcoins..
If you push $10K/day doing this for example, IS IT completely legal within the USA? You of course are going to raise red flags (banks calling asking for information etc). So it would HAVE to be completely legal..
I appreciate your help, thank you!
If you push $10K/day doing this for example, IS IT completely legal within the USA? You of course are going to raise red flags (banks calling asking for information etc). So it would HAVE to be completely legal..
I appreciate your help, thank you!
Are you talking about arbitrage? Arbitrage is a completely legitimate trading strategy employed by some of the best in the market and it is legal. However, if you're talking about some sort of laundering process or mixing maneuver, then I'd look to a professional to answer that question before committing large amounts of currency.
November 01, 2015, 02:16:48 AM
You should be good as long as you aren't trading high volumes of bitcoin because that could be a red flag for drug related activities or something along those lines.
Actually, you can do high volume trades PROVIDED that you will be submitting to all of the exchange's ToS and all the necessary regulations needed to make such transactions. You're all good once you did just that; no red flags or hassles.
November 01, 2015, 02:06:39 AM
You should be good as long as you aren't trading high volumes of bitcoin because that could be a red flag for drug related activities or something along those lines.
November 01, 2015, 12:26:55 AM
There's nothing that stops someone who has a Coinbase account to transfer their funds to another bitcoin address, on another exchange, and then sell those bitcoin for fiat.
The high activity is completely different, but that's probably because Coinbase doesn't want to support money laundering from fiat to BTC.
The OP is really asking "how much $ can I buy with bitcoin per day?" Coinbase will definitely put a halt to $10k per day. AND the US bank from which you make the transactions will have to report any transaction for $10,000 or more to the Feds.
The high activity is completely different, but that's probably because Coinbase doesn't want to support money laundering from fiat to BTC.
The OP is really asking "how much $ can I buy with bitcoin per day?" Coinbase will definitely put a halt to $10k per day. AND the US bank from which you make the transactions will have to report any transaction for $10,000 or more to the Feds.
Coinbase monitors its customer's accounts for high volume activity inconsistent with personal use, and closes then irrespective of whether selling on another exchange is legal or not. People who buy there and sell on Localbitcoins have been known to have their Coinbase accounts closed for it.
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
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Coinbase customers may not, however, use their Coinbase Accounts to engage as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for fiat currency, funds, or other virtual currency. Coinbase reserves the right to limit your account use if we detect activity which constitutes a violation of this policy and/or our User Terms. We further reserve the right to limit your account use if your account is associated with high-volume activity inconsistent with personal use.
Exactly which is why it must be legal since it puts you in the cross hairs of governments whether its legal or not.
I think coinbase is a joke anyway, you shouldn't call yourself a exchange if it cannot be used for business use, it seems they want to be a wallet more than a legit exchange.
November 01, 2015, 12:13:16 AM
There's nothing that stops someone who has a Coinbase account to transfer their funds to another bitcoin address, on another exchange, and then sell those bitcoin for fiat.
The high activity is completely different, but that's probably because Coinbase doesn't want to support money laundering from fiat to BTC.
The OP is really asking "how much $ can I buy with bitcoin per day?" Coinbase will definitely put a halt to $10k per day. AND the US bank from which you make the transactions will have to report any transaction for $10,000 or more to the Feds.
The high activity is completely different, but that's probably because Coinbase doesn't want to support money laundering from fiat to BTC.
The OP is really asking "how much $ can I buy with bitcoin per day?" Coinbase will definitely put a halt to $10k per day. AND the US bank from which you make the transactions will have to report any transaction for $10,000 or more to the Feds.
Coinbase monitors its customer's accounts for high volume activity inconsistent with personal use, and closes then irrespective of whether selling on another exchange is legal or not. People who buy there and sell on Localbitcoins have been known to have their Coinbase accounts closed for it.
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
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Coinbase customers may not, however, use their Coinbase Accounts to engage as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for fiat currency, funds, or other virtual currency. Coinbase reserves the right to limit your account use if we detect activity which constitutes a violation of this policy and/or our User Terms. We further reserve the right to limit your account use if your account is associated with high-volume activity inconsistent with personal use.
November 01, 2015, 12:03:07 AM
Coinbase monitors its customer's accounts for high volume activity inconsistent with personal use, and closes then irrespective of whether selling on another exchange is legal or not. People who buy there and sell on Localbitcoins have been known to have their Coinbase accounts closed for it.
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
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Coinbase customers may not, however, use their Coinbase Accounts to engage as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for fiat currency, funds, or other virtual currency. Coinbase reserves the right to limit your account use if we detect activity which constitutes a violation of this policy and/or our User Terms. We further reserve the right to limit your account use if your account is associated with high-volume activity inconsistent with personal use.
Seems like not a good way to go if you can't mix your coins properly before selling them on lbc. You can avoid your account being closed only if you know how to hide the coins you bought.
October 31, 2015, 11:59:33 PM
Coinbase monitors its customer's accounts for high volume activity inconsistent with personal use, and closes then irrespective of whether selling on another exchange is legal or not. People who buy there and sell on Localbitcoins have been known to have their Coinbase accounts closed for it.
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1905681-localbitcoins-and-coinbase
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Coinbase customers may not, however, use their Coinbase Accounts to engage as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for fiat currency, funds, or other virtual currency. Coinbase reserves the right to limit your account use if we detect activity which constitutes a violation of this policy and/or our User Terms. We further reserve the right to limit your account use if your account is associated with high-volume activity inconsistent with personal use.
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