Topic: Is it ethical to break your gambling rules - page 2. (Read 1167 times)

About being ethical or not breaking your own rules!? I don't know that, I confess that this is a very strange question and the answer to it, if there is one, would be even stranger.

However, I believe that you need help to control yourself in games, because if you can't do it on your own then you need to rely on someone else to help you with this or some technological tool (password lock/computer/wallet) that prevents you from playing as much after reaching the pre-defined goal.
You see... goals need to be met regardless of their results in the game. At this moment you are chasing a 30% loss, but you could be making a 200% profit and still stop playing after a week, in order to avoid losing all that profit hastily.

As I said, seek help... because even if your expenses are still reasonable, gambling addiction can quickly take you to much more complicated stages.

It all depends on the new rule and how it works with us in our gambling process. If our previous rule doesn't work fine, moving ahead with a new one would be fine depending on how much funds it fetches us in the game. However, a gambler who switches rules but doesn't earn any substantial amount, and experience increase in loss, should look into his main rules that brought him wins and reduced his losses. Constantly sticking to a strategy has its disadvantages, unless the method is focused on saving up the bankroll, the gambler may face numerous confusing issues, due to changes in the gambling house. I think the casino work hard to change the way machines perform or provide winning results, hence gamblers who feel they've observed enough the way a machine works, can get disappointed, within a week or two, when the statisticians or mathematicians have reprogrammed the machine. Hence, gamblers should focus more on a strategy that saves up money, than that which circles around winning.

It's hard to be committed to rules especially when it comes to gambling, especially when you're having a winning run you are depriving your chance of the opportunity to regain your losses so it's okay as long as you can always get back to your habit and you are satisfied and enjoy your activity, if you treat gambling as a form of entertainment you should have full enjoyment of it and breaking your own rule from time to time is part of it as long as you're not losing money.

However breaking the rules is not recommended because it's like you're doing something that's beyond your means, but the problem is like your question here about whether they'll stop breaking when it leads them to victory, I think there will be some people who are interested in trying again in the hope of getting a win like before, this is what is dangerous when you become too accustomed to breaking the rules that you have made for yourself especially in terms of finances.

I think this will only keep a gambler stuck in a cycle of chasing wins to make up for losses when they are unable to accept the fact of losing at the end of the session. So don't mind even if you basically win when you break the rules because it's a situation where you're lucky and nothing more than that, which means it doesn't mean that when you break the rules again in the next session you can win, no that's the wrong mindset, and you should assume that somehow you have to go back to the rules you made at the beginning so that you stay within your limits.

Many people haven't made a game plan before they start playing, for them it's something like simply waking up, creating an account at the casino and starting playing and then when they start to see that they are losing a lot then they start creating rules for themselves with I hope that with these rules the scenario of many losses will change, the scenario of using money they shouldn't and losing that same money will change, but nothing changes. Even with these rules that they set for themselves, they cannot change the disaster that will be every time they play and the reason is due to the lack of planning before they start playing. for example, if the person only bets on the premier league games and knows that the premier league games take place on Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays and that person will have Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays without betting and thus will rest

so this person should not keep setting rules that he will only bet on Saturday, because there may be a case where on Saturday the game is between bad teams and there is no value in betting on them, but the game on Sunday will have value and will be a very good game. good to watch, so this person will naturally think about placing a bet when Sunday arrives and when he makes a bet later he will start complaining that he broke his rule when his rule is something that doesn't make any sense, because the games only take place on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays and he will have Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to rest and when the premier league games end in May he will have from May until August without betting and this helps in not being dependent on games, in other words there is no need to create absurd rules, the person needs proper planning

That's clear, of course the rules that have been made and established should be obeyed by every gambler, after all what's the benefit of breaking the rules, it will only bring problems. The conditions that have been set cannot be changed or denied. No one can change the rules that have been set by the host. For example, there are people who can convince people to break the rules in order to win, in my opinion that's just nonsense, besides, even obeying the rules to be able to win is already difficult, with the fact that the winning advantage is only owned by the home side, we as an ordinary gambler we can only do what is in accordance with the provisions that have been set, even if we violate it we will only get into trouble which could possibly have a bad impact on us. What you say is correct, of course the rules are not made without reason, of course the rules are made to avoid things that could harm the main parties, therefore there is no ethical basis for breaking the rules.

Not only in gambling, in all matters there are regulations that must be obeyed. This regulatory statement is also made to discipline users so that they do not carry out dangerous actions that could harm themselves. Moreover, I think that breaking the rules is only done by people who don't have any thoughts, because it is clear that the rules have to be obeyed, not to be broken, even though there are people who break them, that doesn't mean they have to be an example, of course breaking the rules is not something. which is for example. What we have to think about is that when we break the rules, there is the possibility of something bad happening and that is clearly detrimental to ourselves.

There is no punishment for yourself when you break your own gambling rules.

They won't literally take back our winnings. But it is us that we're sending it back to them when we're not contented with the profit that we've made as we gamble.

Instead of taking care of that profit, it is what we do and gamble again because we thought that we'd win more than the amount that we already have.

yeah, I agree. Breaking the rules is the beginning of big problems in the future. This has been proven by many incidents both on the forum and outside the forum. They break the rules (deposit limits, for example), one to a hundred times will not have a significant effect, but when emotions have entered the effort to catch up on all losses, breaking the rules will become more serious. From an initial deposit of $10, it will increase to $100 and will continue to be increased until it exceeds the limit that cannot be covered by his income. In the end he became addicted to gambling, because he wanted to catch up on previous losses. If it's like this, don't you regret it? Maybe some will regret it and stop gambling, but the other will continue with more higher risk.

That's nice OP. The good thing about today's online gambling is that feature. "Self exclusion". I didn't know this before, I only learned that here in this forum like months ago. This is a good option for those who think they are on the brink of being a gambling addict. While those who still want to gamble a bit for the day can use the "gambling limits" option. https://stake.games/responsible-gambling/gambling-limits
Like smoking and alcohol addicts, they must have that urge to still play and some prefer to still take a small amount each day while they are trying to figure out how to stop it.
I guess we all have our own way of keeping it under control, for me stopping it on a snap is better. That's how I stopped my smoking habit. Thankfully, the urge to smoke again is gone for 5 years.
I am glad about your decision OP and I wish you all the best. I bet you can keep it under control the next time you are back because you already have the experience of what happened recently.

Rules are made to be obeyed not broken. When we set a rule, it means that we already know that there are risks so we make rules and surely we already realize when we break the rules that we have set at the beginning it will be a problem in the future. Rules are made not without certain reasons, of course the rules exist because they are based on certain things and usually it concerns things that will harm.

If we break the rules that we have set, it means that we are inconsistent in sticking to them. And in life the commitment to a rule for me is something that must always be carried out and must be fully obeyed. Especially when it comes to gambling which is closely related to our financial situation. Simply put when we make a rule for the gambling we do, then it's like saving our money from being too drained due to irregular gambling. My question is, what's the point of making rules and breaking them? What kind of commitment did we plan for in the beginning? Isn't that not the case?

Not because you are not affecting your finances meaning you are doing right because this is a sign that you are starting to become more active and if you will not take a look at this seriously then you might find yourself becoming addicted.

Not because you are winning meaning this will be forever because we knew how gambling fool us for making us win for a while and when we are starting to become more aggressive then this is a payback time and they will take all those winning and even your capital.

Breaking your personal gambling rules only gives you many problems because you can lose your money, you can eager to chase the win but will not have bigger chances to win, and the worst is you can addicted to gambling without you realize. We will not know if we already break our rule, especially if we lose or win because our feeling will react with what we got in gambling. If you break your rules for many times, that will be the time for you to gets more problems and if you still not realizing your mistake, you will slowly become addicted to gambling and will lose your money. It's better we sticks to our rules so we can prevents many problems that can happens to us and better to used gambling as having fun and entertainment.

I don't think it is right to put unethical and personal rules in the same sentence. Personal rules are made by an individuals to guide his activities, violation of those rules is not against any ethics rather can just be minor deviation. Unless I'm wrong, I think ethics has to do with rules governing a group of people for their peaceful and safe interaction and coexistence. Nevertheless, I'm not downplaying the importance of setting personal rules as it relates to gambling and sticking to them because that is the way to remain consistent and profitable in the gambling business.

yes it would be ethical if we look at it normally, because the OP said that he did not exceed his reasonable limit of 30% of his overall money, and in my opinion it is also the case that as long as he knows the worst limit he is gambling it will have no effect on finances. the thing to watch out for is when he doesn't feel guilty and instead continues until the spending limit exceeds the 30% he himself mentions, in my opinion as long as it is within the control of the person, and calculates the risk well is an ethical act. The rules that a person makes are a plan for himself. and a lot of rules are conditional or dynamic depending on the situation of the person himself.

Breaking your personal gambling rules doesn't affect you in any ways. What if you broke the rule and still win? Will you complain of breaking the rule? Where breaking the rule become a problem is when you have played 4 consecutive weeks without wining and you blatantly refused to stop, them it becomes unethical. That is to say that the gambling has moved from a normal gambling to aggressive gambling. Which might Leed to loosing all fund.

It's important to stick with your rules for responsible gambling. Breaking your rules, even if it does not affect or impact your finances and still manage to come out with a win, can still be a cause for concern. Consider the potential risks and consequences of breaking your own rules. Take breaks to assess yourself and habits to ensure you're playing responsibly.

You made a valuable point and I guess I need to increase my awareness about possible addictions but it should be an early stage, but I was able to put it under control and I have not gambled in the last one week or so and I am glad that I can notice that lapses on time and addressing the issues, I am from now henceforth be on break and I have also self exclude myself from the most popular casino in my country since I want to stay off active gambling for a while.

I think it depends on what the established rules are and how it would affect you as a whole.

In your case OP, I think avoiding gambling for three (3) consecutive weeks is a fantastic start of knowing and having responsibility. Sure, you have a personal rule wherein you should gamble for like every week but since you have broken this rule and this affected you more in a POSITIVE way, then I do not think that it is unethical.

The situation would be different and my answer would be otherwise if you broke your rule then it affected you in a NEGATIVE manner. For example, if you have a rule where you should only allocate a certain percentage of your income as your gambling fund but you broke this rule by betting more, then this would be unethical.

Your discipline wears off slowly but surely when you break your own rules. You may try to convince and tell yourself it’s just one time but if you excuse yourself just once, you’re going to keep excusing yourself. It’s much better to stay focused and to remain strong willed.
I know firsthand just how discipline is needed for one to overcome tempting challenges. Without consistency in keeping up with said rules, it would be really easy for your habits and actions to take a dark turn.

If you feel no guilt and it didn't affected your finance, why think of it as something unethical. There's no legal issues here but only your thinking if it is ethical or not. You can judge it based on how you foresee these things. If you're gambling with care and you're responsible enough, you can classify yourself as a responsible gambler that don't affect your other affairs and welfare and you're not too problematic with money. The problem with other gamblers is that they're making things like big deal even when they're not. Don't put that much thinking on these things and gamble as much as you can based on how deep your pockets are because sometime, you'll get to stop and have to focus somewhere else and in other activities as you get older.