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Topic: Is it just a coincidence Malaysia Flight MH370 disappearance now MH17 shot down? - page 2. (Read 4854 times)

legendary
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It's a truly awful incident. I can't imagine what it must be like for the locals who had to witness such a horrific scene. Something like a war zone that you might see in places like Gaza or Iraq etc. The thing that makes it creepier is that the media shows you the victims and their stories, which obviously they don't report on such things when innocent people die in war zones - but that's another discussion.

The locals who witnessed this ARE living in a war zone. Have been since May. The day of the disaster, over 20 civilians were killed by Ukrainian artillery in Lugansk, on that single day alone.

So, the "etc." in "Something like a war zone that you might see in places like Gaza or Iraq etc." shoudl have been "Something like a war zone that you might see in places like Gaza or Iraq of East-Ukraine, etc."
legendary
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Keep it dense, yeah?
How many commercial passenger planes cross that part before the crash happen? Is it the usual route for most planes or just Malaysian airplane cross that part.

I'm not sure how many passed over that region without problem during the conflict, but given that a lot of airline companies have now said that they are treating that area as a no-fly zone, as well as the Ukrainian powers stating that it is a no-fly zone then I imagine that there must have been some activity.

If the plane was not run by MAS then I'm sure that there would be a lot more people treating it exactly for what it is, and not for some conspiracy against MAS.

If that was an American plane, Obama would be declaring war by now.

It's interesting how the situation changes based on whose plane it was.

If the perpetrators genuinely knew that it was a commercial flight carrying innocent civilians then I don't believe that they would have shot it down. Unless of course they wanted to try and pin the blame on somebody else.

It's a truly awful incident. I can't imagine what it must be like for the locals who had to witness such a horrific scene. Something like a war zone that you might see in places like Gaza or Iraq etc. The thing that makes it creepier is that the media shows you the victims and their stories, which obviously they don't report on such things when innocent people die in war zones - but that's another discussion.
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Bling Bling
How many commercial passenger planes cross that part before the crash happen? Is it the usual route for most planes or just Malaysian airplane cross that part.

I'm not sure how many passed over that region without problem during the conflict, but given that a lot of airline companies have now said that they are treating that area as a no-fly zone, as well as the Ukrainian powers stating that it is a no-fly zone then I imagine that there must have been some activity.

If the plane was not run by MAS then I'm sure that there would be a lot more people treating it exactly for what it is, and not for some conspiracy against MAS.

If that was an American plane, Obama would be declaring war by now.
legendary
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Keep it dense, yeah?
How many commercial passenger planes cross that part before the crash happen? Is it the usual route for most planes or just Malaysian airplane cross that part.

I'm not sure how many passed over that region without problem during the conflict, but given that a lot of airline companies have now said that they are treating that area as a no-fly zone, as well as the Ukrainian powers stating that it is a no-fly zone then I imagine that there must have been some activity.

If the plane was not run by MAS then I'm sure that there would be a lot more people treating it exactly for what it is, and not for some conspiracy against MAS.
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Bling Bling
How many commercial passenger planes cross that part before the crash happen? Is it the usual route for most planes or just Malaysian airplane cross that part.
legendary
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Keep it dense, yeah?
Malaysia Airlines has a timeline of blips and tragedies, as many airlines do in their history. The fact that MH17 was shot down is likely unrelated to the disappearance on MH370.

It's just the close occurrence of two (one 100% confirmed) tragedies. I'm sure that it has freaked a lot of people out.

Odd of one random tragic event is coincident, but two consecutive small chance random tragic event is probably not coincident.
 

It is a coincidence and nothing more. MH17 could have been easily avoided had the pilot not flown into a known combat zone. The aviation authority at MAS should have enforced a no-fly policy over that territory.

It's easy to say these things in hindsight, knowing the tragedy that unfolded. But just as there is huge blame and condemnation over the acts carried out by the perpetrators, there is also blame to be pointed at those within the airline for allowing their plane to fly over a dangerous zone.
sr. member
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Malaysia Airlines has a timeline of blips and tragedies, as many airlines do in their history. The fact that MH17 was shot down is likely unrelated to the disappearance on MH370.

It's just the close occurrence of two (one 100% confirmed) tragedies. I'm sure that it has freaked a lot of people out.

Odd of one random tragic event is coincident, but two consecutive small chance random tragic event is probably not coincident.
 

No. It is a couple of tragedies brought on by human error. There is nothing out of the ordinary other than it happening to the same airline twice. Look ay American Air lines back in 2001. They lost more air craft and lives in a couple of months than MA has lost. Unlikely events happen all the time. 
sr. member
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What is striking to me is there is a double coincidence at play here

1) Two aircraft disasters with the same airline
2) Both involve deviations from their regular flight plan

What are the odds of that Huh

In the case of Flight MH370 nobody knows where it went

In the case of Flight MH17, granted its still early, but as far as I understand the plane deviated off course into the conflict zone and dropped from 35K to 33K Huh

This coupled with the fact its the same airline makes the odds  about as close as me guessing satoshi's private keys Huh  
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Yes, it literally is just a coincidence. What other relation could there possibly be, though this isn't going to stop conspiracy theorists going wild with their imaginations. I think the simple matter of a fact was that the plane was flying over a warzone and some idiots blew it out of the sky just because they could.
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soviet union tried to impose his fucking ideology everywhere in the world...  Roll Eyes
legendary
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We have not see Russia isolate from the world for more than one century...

Soviet Union post 1925 and until 1989 was a big chunk of isolation to miss...
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Malaysia Airlines has a timeline of blips and tragedies, as many airlines do in their history. The fact that MH17 was shot down is likely unrelated to the disappearance on MH370.

It's just the close occurrence of two (one 100% confirmed) tragedies. I'm sure that it has freaked a lot of people out.

Odd of one random tragic event is coincident, but two consecutive small chance random tragic event is probably not coincident.
 
sr. member
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We have not see Russia isolate from the world for more than one century...
legendary
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Well, once again, Putin takes a fall. Now he is faced with either looking like someone who would allow his puppets, on the sly, to shoot down a plane, OR he looks like someone who can't control his puppets.

I think he will be ignoring the issue. It's not like it's Russia's problem. Let the US deal with it. If thing continue like they were doing, Russia will do, what it always did when faced with external threat: clamp up, and close in on itself. Isolate from the world.
legendary
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Is it just a coincidence Malaysia Flight MH370 disappearance now MH17 shot down?

Yes, I think so.
Is always fun to develop some kind of conspiracy theory but in this case I see just  coincidence and nothing else.
of course we can judge Malaysia air official why they didn't change the plane route but also other air companies used the same route previous days without any problem.
I guess really bad luck for this air company, 2 horrible accidents this year.
legendary
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Keep it dense, yeah?
Well, once again, Putin takes a fall. Now he is faced with either looking like someone who would allow his puppets, on the sly, to shoot down a plane, OR he looks like someone who can't control his puppets.
lol ,what Putin has to do with the disappearing of the first Malaysian plane?
I don\t know if is a coincidence between those 2 airplanes but one thing is for sure,i will never travel with Malaysian airplanes,i think this company is now the most unsecured airplane company in the world.

By "once again", I don't necessarily think that umair127 was pointing the blame for MH370's disappearance on Putin, rather that once again Putin has got himself in another predicament, another negative story in the eyes of the world media.

Other controversies in the media involving VP include gay rights etc.
hero member
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In case of MH370 disappearance, Malasyian Airlines showed great degree of incompetence. Now they let their MH17 to fly straight through this dangerous war zone where fighter jets and SAMs are active all over the place. Why? To save some fuel. How brilliant. So no, I wouldn't say its 'a coincidence, that company is horrible.

In my opinion, the MH370 disappearance was swiftly covered up by many governments. I find it impossible to believe that, with current technology, a plane carrying so many people can just disappear off the map. There's plenty of Satellites monitoring and filming the earth, something that big simply cannot "disappear".
sr. member
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Well, once again, Putin takes a fall. Now he is faced with either looking like someone who would allow his puppets, on the sly, to shoot down a plane, OR he looks like someone who can't control his puppets.
lol ,what Putin has to do with the disappearing of the first Malaysian plane?
I don\t know if is a coincidence between those 2 airplanes but one thing is for sure,i will never travel with Malaysian airplanes,i think this company is now the most unsecured airplane company in the world.
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sr. member
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RT reports that flight MH17 was instructed by Kiev air traffic control to deviate and drop from 35k to 33k  
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