Topic: Is it just me or has the quality of this forum dropped immensely - page 2. (Read 3505 times)

Signature campaigns have contributed a lot in making bitcoin mainstream and in growing bitcoin community.Campaigns have also helped many bitcoin related business to establish.
I bet those whose who oppose sig campaigns are the ones who have hoarded lots of bitcoins and feel jealous when they see others earning them.

That would be too drastic a measure. Disabling signatures for anyone below a Hero member rank would do just wonders in this regard and most likely sweep away a lot of spammy campaigns along with their shit posters. While enabling signatures back might be an option at moderators' or trusted users' discretion, though not completely free from abuse...


And that would definitely be a hell of a job

Well if you do that, probably a lot of people would leave just because of that, and I'm not really sure how this forums gets around, is it by donations or ads or smthn... Maybe bring in the new way, a new system of ranking up. Where spam posts wouldn't be considered as posts at all, where a true contribution would be rewarded.

I don't like this way or ranking up with points every two weeks because it's allows spammer to rank up easily, maybe something like after a certain period of time you can pm a mod or admin and ask to review your account, if you weren't spamming and your posts are on point, then you will get a higher rank. Tho, there might be some more things to add to that like what does a certain rank require and things like that. That's just my opinion on how to solve that problem, since then spamming would leave you nowhere and people will actually give a productive response that just "yes haha" or things like that. I've gave my proposal, it's all up to admins. :p

Well when there were less people and less signature campaigns posts had more quality, now when there are tons of new users, many more new signature campaigns, and signature camps. require a certain rank, then you have people that are shitposting just to rank up and whether you know english or not, it's not stopping you from posting. :p

No, it is not just for you. Spammers ruined the forum, and we can't do nothing.
Maybe the only way to fix this problem is to ban all the signature campaigns.

Allowance of signature campaigns and buying/selling of accounts is something I find awkward; such things make a forum to be known like a place where people can earn (easy) money, and attracts unwanted elements negatively impacting discussion(s) and quality as a whole. If talking about the Bitcoin, blockchain and other related stuff regarding would be the core, then the only place where people could advertise should be that banner space up for renting; allowing, and thus facilitating, any other form just simply downgrades the forum as a whole, it's quality and it's content.

I guess the only thing that would be close to guaranteeing that the quality of posting here increases is to stop sig campaigns (yes I'm aware that I participate in one).

It'd stop the shit posting to reach weekly quotas but at the same time this would make the forum a lot quieter.

False. If nothing is done, the exact opposite will happen. The quality will be even worse than it is now, which says a lot since some sections are already mostly unreadable.

Quite annoying, redundant and rule-breaking threads, yes.

Unless something is done, that is likely the case.

I think it would be the reverse, actually. Do you remember back in 2015 when there were 4-some bubbles and a billion of the same threads about "btc is $n now" or "how high will btc go?" appeared?

Increased adoption will only bring way to more people... with the majority of those becoming spammers.

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What it will do, however, is bring in more ad revenue for the forum and potentially help with the new forum software.

We're in a period of low price volatility. It's all gone a bit boring, forum traffic & increased adoption will improve the quality of the forum, we just need some good news to pump the price.

Just have a bit of patience.

This is why I spend time paying in Development & Techbical Discussion and Technical Support. Spammers don't understand what's there or can't be bothered to make sense of that, they'd much rather post in "Do you think bitcoin is a good investment?".

Heh.

It depends on what you mean by quality. I joined this forum a little over 5 years ago, and I'd argue that the quality of discussion was higher, but that means a lot of things. I speculate that conversation was of higher quality because Bitcoin was more technical at the time. People came here to have discussions on the technology and how to use it. The fact that that isn't necessarily the case anymore in my opinion means that the technological barrier is decreasing. The userbase is now more diverse, and their #1 question isn't, "What steps must I take to avoid corrupting my Bitcoin wallet and losing all of my money", instead it is "I bought Bitcoin, what do I do with it now?".

Of course the discussion is going to be a lot higher quality between fewer members with the same interests that respect each other. If there were only 1000 Bitcoin users world wide, I believe that would still be the case. Now, we have people who barely understand Bitcoin, but use it anyway. Take the good with the bad. Bitcoin user's interests aren't a monolith anymore. Some people are interested in the technology, some are interested in mining, some in Alt coins, some in shopping, others in business, some in scamming, and some in spamming.

Associate with the good, ignore the bad, and try and have discussions with the people who are interested in the same aspects of Bitcoin as you. Especially the spammers, please create a single thread and spam with each other. Also be sure to take role, record your names. *grabs the ban hammer*

Thanks for responding. As I was reading your comment i was thinking you were going to imply that the short statement was the reason. I'm genuinely surprised you think it was the number I listed. But maybe you're on to something.

First, yeah, I do make that much from my day job (in fiat) and what I listed is the BTC equivalent.

Second, I love bitcoin and having good discussion on this forum. Signature campaigns is a very cool way to make some money.

Last, if that's the reason they kicked me out...it just proves my point that the decision making is arbitrary and without logic. He could have sent me a note saying "hey, you don't really need this so I gotta give your spot to someone else".

people will spam regardless
as long as there any incentitives to post,be it actual money from sig campaigns or increasing the post count (e-peen size) or just sound smarter than that other guy,some even go as far as helping others with their problems(these are the worst)
bitcoin community grows,many non-english speaking members type "bitcoin read information" or similar into Google search and come to this forum
for every 2.2 decent posters statistically,there are 5.34 wankers who murder not only english language,but also common sense and my patience
I learned to live with it
I forgive....

Now there are many spammers who arr trying to eatn easy money. But I didn't noticed that moderators would fight active against them. They allow to post shity spam in and threads reach 50, 100 or more pages. And there are also hundreds of farmed accounts, who creates majority of spam. These farmers was catched by users, but moderators didn't taked any actions to stop them.

This has been toe situation for a few years now, nothing new

Haha... so true.

Isn't this always a problem? People writing crap to gain higher post counts? Isn't the opposite worse? nobody writing anything at all!!

I think I can guess why you got kicked from the Bit.AC sig campaign. I was also a little surprised at first to see you kicked out (though I seriously doubt that the quality of your posts "was far outweighing others", to be honest), so I looked through your post history, and I found this entry of yours in the week preceding the payment after which you got excluded:


I don't know about SFR10, the BIT.AC campaign manager, and his reasons for kicking you out (provided it was his decision in the first place), but I consider it rather strange that a guy making 0.84 BTC per day would be participating in a signature campaign that was paying him, according to his rank, only 0.00055x50=0.0275 per week for 50 posts which he still didn't make. Just in case, I'm in no way affiliated with either SFR10 or BIT.AC...

Do you really earn so much and still want to participate in a signature campaign (I am just asking)?

Admittedly, the spam has become worse this year, but there is nothing that you can do about it.

There are two groups that are basically bringing down the quality to all time lows.

One group is recognizable as they use Google translate to post their crap in this forum, and the other group is well known for their the Bitcoin posts.