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Topic: Is it possible for a bounty manager to reduce token located for a specific campa (Read 366 times)

legendary
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
Yesterday, there was another thread on the matter, with a specific case (see What can we do if a bounty manager did not pay the tokens as they promised?). An ICO called Globatalent Network stated a bounty of 1,1M$ and has had that information on it’s Bounty thread since January 2018 (and still is showing that value to date). Bounty token distribution started yesterday, and now the alleged bounty total for the campaign is of 0,1M$ (distributed in their tokens, not USD). Basically, they have cut the revenue ten fold, claiming miserably that they made a mistake and that the total of 1,1M$ was the aggregate for a set of campaigns, and not for this specific one.

So the answer to the question of whether it is possible to reduce the token allocation is a clear yes. It’s not ethical, and the ICO will suffer all the negative comments to come due to such low level actions. Not that they care really too much; most of these cases will likely have the objective of taking the money and good riddance to all, worst case being the investors who actually dipped some (crypto)cash into the ICO. This is a high risk environment, with barely any regulation nor control, in which wasting your personal time is the least that can happen …
hero member
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To change the rules, a manager can but to change the bounty allocation, I think they should discuss with the developer and team unless he promoted harder for a bounty which he leads to get more participants
This is possible if the devs really appreciate the job done by the bounty manager.

Unfortunately that really happened to me in one of the camps a few weeks ago. Not only the manager, even this directly from the owner that he knows the campaign participants are only a few people and he immediately cuts the allocation on the grounds that the coin distribution is evenly distributed and there is no jealousy from other campaign members. So basically they have the right to do that.
They have the right to do that, who holds the fund - them. You guys can't do anything with that and always check if the rules of that campaign if it says that manager's decision is final.
full member
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Unfortunately that really happened to me in one of the camps a few weeks ago. Not only the manager, even this directly from the owner that he knows the campaign participants are only a few people and he immediately cuts the allocation on the grounds that the coin distribution is evenly distributed and there is no jealousy from other campaign members. So basically they have the right to do that.
member
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
 
What advice you have for the manager.

To change the rules, a manager can but to change the bounty allocation, I think they should discuss with the developer and team unless he promoted harder for a bounty which he leads to get more participants
hero member
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If that manager has its reputation and pride to protect, he won't do something crazy.

But look closely to the rules of that campaign and see if there's specific rule about the allocation. Reputable manager would stick to what they have been implementing but a manager that sees advantage to this because no one would notice only shows on what type of manager he is.
Gaining reputation wont really be that easy and no manager will just risk out his reputation for such foolish act to be done.He can really change things if he wanted to but same as others saying on here that it will depend always on the project owners if the tokens will be decreased or not depending on the outcome of the ICO but on general speaking if rules is being set on the first day of the bounty program
then its already fixed and such changes wont really be welcome thats why im not really against for some arguments between bounters and the management if somethings wrong with their pay.
They should receive the deserve amount of tokens and stakes that they have made.

A reputable manager won't really gamble with this idea so that's why they would stick to what they have been doing and won't cause themselves a ruckus because they all wanted to work properly and silently. That's what they used to work so like I said, if ever someone will do it, he's showing his true nature.
legendary
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If that manager has its reputation and pride to protect, he won't do something crazy.

But look closely to the rules of that campaign and see if there's specific rule about the allocation. Reputable manager would stick to what they have been implementing but a manager that sees advantage to this because no one would notice only shows on what type of manager he is.
Gaining reputation wont really be that easy and no manager will just risk out his reputation for such foolish act to be done.He can really change things if he wanted to but same as others saying on here that it will depend always on the project owners if the tokens will be decreased or not depending on the outcome of the ICO but on general speaking if rules is being set on the first day of the bounty program
then its already fixed and such changes wont really be welcome thats why im not really against for some arguments between bounters and the management if somethings wrong with their pay.
full member
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
 
What advice you have for the manager.
Yes to prevent the participants to dump the tokens, 20 percent allocated for 30 participants is already a huge amount of token per individual.
sr. member
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It depend on the rules of bounty campaign right at the beginning. But I think reduce or increase amount of token for each part of bounty campaign depend on develop team of ICO project behind bounty campaign and bounty manager just need to handle bounty participants and their work weekly.
member
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
  
What advice you have for the manager.

Yes, he can do that if that is included in the bounty's disclaimer, and this thing happened many times before. So we, as bounty hunters, ought to read and understand every single word written in the bounty rules. Do note that this sometimes happens without prior notice. It happened to me many times when the allocation was reduced for this same reason of not achieving the target number of participants in a certain campaign. Well, if the BM has a good character, he/she would include it early in the rules, as I understand that the devs sometimes require number of participants. This thing must be cleared by them with the devs they're working with to avoid trouble in the future.
full member
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
 
What advice you have for the manager.

if something like that happens, usually the bounty manager has the right to cancel or change the percentage allocated.
but as far as I know, I know the same thing, the manager won't stop but continues and what he does is change his presentation
full member
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The bounty campaign manager reserves the right to adjust, remove or add more bounty rewards where necessary. If you check some bounty rules, you will see that there are minimum number of participants required in order to earn the reward stipulated, otherwise it will be slashed.
hero member
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If that manager has its reputation and pride to protect, he won't do something crazy.

But look closely to the rules of that campaign and see if there's specific rule about the allocation. Reputable manager would stick to what they have been implementing but a manager that sees advantage to this because no one would notice only shows on what type of manager he is.
jr. member
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maybe it could also depend on the number of participants who took part in the prize and the drop in the prize might not reduce the prize you would get and the prize would not reduce if there were no irregularities
full member
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
 
What advice you have for the manager.
Everything will depends on the rules and to the manager of the camp you are in, some of them may tend to change the rules if they don't reach their hard cap but it is often happens to most manager to change their certain rules. Some may stick to the rules as what they have stated but most of them will turn out to be good for pump and dump shitcoins only.
hero member
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the rules made by a bounty manager are absolute and must be followed by all bounty participants, but I value ethics and consistency with the rules made.
when a bounty manager often changes the rules with less strong reasons, I will judge him as inconsistent and I will reduce the campaign that they manage for the future

At least the consistency was stated in the beginning of the campaign warning of changes to the bounty allocation at any time if they were indeed worried that participants wouldn't reach the target. This must be done especially in bounties which are moderated by the project party itself.
legendary
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
  
What advice you have for the manager.

Quick answer: They can.
Long answer:
That depends on which bounty manager are your referring to.
Some bounty managers tend to stick to their rules within the bounty campaign itself but if for some reason, they are influenced by the project team to make reductions/changes then he/she might not have any choice but to implement it.
Some bounty managers also clearly state on their bounty campaign rules something like this:
"Bounty pool allocated to this campaign will be 50% less if the participants will be less than 100"
That should give you a hint that when the total number of participants on that particular bounty campaign category does not reach the said amount then the allocated bounty pool will be reduced.
My simple suggestion is; before joining/participating on any bounty campaign, Read and understand the rules and if there's some part of it you don't like, make a suggestion to the bounty manager or don't join.  Wink
This should really be given out by most bounty out there which do have corresponding clear rules before tending to launch a bounty program.So that it wont really create chaos when theres
changes in the end when they do saw the allocation is way too big for only few participants on such programs.Manager do really have the capability but you are right it can really be influenced anytime
when the team told them to do so and since they are just being paid up too then theres nothing they can do as well.
jr. member
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the rules made by a bounty manager are absolute and must be followed by all bounty participants, but I value ethics and consistency with the rules made.
when a bounty manager often changes the rules with less strong reasons, I will judge him as inconsistent and I will reduce the campaign that they manage for the future
member
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I saw when the pool was changed due to the small number of participants. The bounty manager can add these tokens to another type of company, or not add it anywhere and exclude the bounty from the pool. The rules often say that if there is a small number of participants, the pool may change.
member
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Miracle Tele

      In bounty campaigns, things are not normal. Most times, bounty managers under-estimate bounty hunters and do not appreciate their work. Bounty managers change the terms and conditions of rewards for participants at any time, so there's more stress for the attendee, because every day every day they have to read if something new about the bounty campaign has appeared. It is good to participate in bounty campaigns that have known and serious reward managers.
legendary
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IF a bounty manager allocated 20% for contents campaign and he find out at middle of campaign that he has only 30 participants. can he cancel or modify the allocated percentage.
  
What advice you have for the manager.

Quick answer: They can.
Long answer:
That depends on which bounty manager are your referring to.
Some bounty managers tend to stick to their rules within the bounty campaign itself but if for some reason, they are influenced by the project team to make reductions/changes then he/she might not have any choice but to implement it.
Some bounty managers also clearly state on their bounty campaign rules something like this:
"Bounty pool allocated to this campaign will be 50% less if the participants will be less than 100"
That should give you a hint that when the total number of participants on that particular bounty campaign category does not reach the said amount then the allocated bounty pool will be reduced.
My simple suggestion is; before joining/participating on any bounty campaign, Read and understand the rules and if there's some part of it you don't like, make a suggestion to the bounty manager or don't join.  Wink
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