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Topic: Is it possible sending BTC without a transaction fee? - page 3. (Read 23880 times)

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No, it can't be.  That's how really btc works but if you really insist to make a zero transaction fee then you need to shift your attention on other altcoin. They already exists and Nano is one of the most popular in the coinmarketcap.
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It will only be possible if yo are a miner. In which case you will select that transaction and mine it. I even doubt it but I think it will work because I kow that of eth which is possible to send without fee. The miners can do this with ease but there is no where in this crypto world that you are going to get a free transaction.
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I think it's impossible because every exchange or wallet need to get a fee because it's for development of that platform that's why we need pay a fee.
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no, because transaction costs are the main benchmark for making transfers without transaction fees, the transaction will not work. And in my opinion the cost of bitcoin transactions is still fairly low, and not worrying so far.
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The fee is quite used to the development of the bitcoin economy, but I think that a possible transaction is free of charge, but also miners receive a part of money. I mean, as long as the transactions are used, the fee will go along.

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The answer is absolutely NO. And for now, we have to pay more and more transaction fees if we want the transaction to be processed timely.
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It used to be possible to send btc with 0 fees. (2012 2015 and before)


https://twitter.com/random_walker/status/731872416629202945

I am not sure about this but the reason why we can't do that anymore is probably miners don't accept these transactions. You can still set your fee to sub satoshi levels and it'll get a confirmation though. Surprisingly they still accept those.

The chart you posted shows that it is technically possible to send a Bitcoin transaction with the output BTC amount which is equal to the input BTC amount. In fact, this possibility depends on the current number of pending transactions. Nowadays many people transfer BTC coins to each other, so miners tend to accept transactions with a high fee in the primary order.

Anyways, Bitcoin transaction fees are currently not very high as was the case in January 2018, so it is easy enough to pay such cheap commissions.
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I also got a payment transaction with 0 fees, the transaction made me wait a long time and finally confirmed by the network, maybe it was a few years ago and for now until later I think it won't be possible to do bitcoin transactions without fees
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It is not possible to do that.
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Wow... I had stepped away from this thread, and it derailed once again... I know i said i'd step away, but when faced with this much misinformation, i couldn't help myself and add yet another reply. I've read the last ~10 replies and tried to correct the errors.

From now on, i'm going to start putting people on ignore that post nonsense.

Every block mined comes with a gas fee which determines the speed and verification of the transaction made. Putting 0 as a transaction fee means no block is mined, hence no transaction can be made. Also, service providers which include the wallet developers and exchange developers earn from these transaction fees.
You're mixing up bitcoin and ethereum. Gas fee = Ethereum terminology
Next to this, creating a transaction with 0 fee has no effect on the miners, they'll mine empty blocks (only including the coinbase transaction) if they have to. Also, it's possible to make a transaction with 0 fee, as i've proved many times in this very thread. Wallet and exchange developers do NOT make money on the transaction fees, exchanges usually charge deposit, exchange and withdrawal fees, but that's usually completely offchain.

I don't think that it would be possible because the fess goes to the block mined and thats where the transaction is made --snip--
Nope... The user makes a transaction, broadcasts it to a node, which relays it to more nodes untill it reaches a node run by a miner. A miner just collects those transactions, verifies them (again) and adds them to the block he's trying to solve (at least, if it makes economical sense for him to do so... Blocksize is limited)

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Hmm, as far I know is impossible to send BTC without transaction fees. Every wallet you are using requires you to pay some amount of BTC for fees if have to do a transaction. Maybe you can decrease the transaction fees on some wallet like Bitcoin Core but it makes your transaction speed slower...
If you use the console of bitcoin core, you can do whatever you want (fee-wise). Even 0 fee


I've heard of Bitcoin Zero Fee before. Nowadays, it's not possible. Before, because there were fewer people playing Bitcoin and the volume of transactions was not large, the developers of Bitcoin had no fees to survive. Later, more people playing Bitcoin were packaged by miners, so they had to pay the fees. This is a process of development.

Nope... The fees are NOT payed to the developers. A miner can add the sum of the fees of all transactions he put in the block he's trying to solve to the current block reward funding his own address. The developers get nothing
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I would know if it is possible to send BTC without a transaction fee regardless of theoretically or practicall..

Hmm, as far I know is impossible to send BTC without transaction fees. Every wallet you are using requires you to pay some amount of BTC for fees if have to do a transaction. Maybe you can decrease the transaction fees on some wallet like Bitcoin Core but it makes your transaction speed slower...
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I would know if it is possible to send BTC without a transaction fee regardless of theoretically or practicall..
I don't think that it would be possible because the fess goes to the block mined and thats where the transaction is made like for example in local banks, some banks are collecting fees when you transfer money to other accounts that are not within your city or region.
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Every block mined comes with a gas fee which determines the speed and verification of the transaction made. Putting 0 as a transaction fee means no block is mined, hence no transaction can be made. Also, service providers which include the wallet developers and exchange developers earn from these transaction fees.
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Transaction fees are a vital part of a functioning BTC economy.
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As of now it is totally impossible. The fees are the amount paid to the miners. These miners are validating the transactions. Though, it is possible to have a free transaction only if developers would create a code that would not require miners. However,  this is far from reality as of now because bitcoin hasn't been mined fully.  There is a lot of reserved as of now.
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I would know if it is possible to send BTC without a transaction fee regardless of theoretically or practicall..
There are some transaction that is not subject for the fees for example the wallet that I’m using right now, but most of the time it is subject for the fees because the developer needs money also so they can still run the business. The fees are very low sometimes and I know you can afford that.
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I would know if it is possible to send BTC without a transaction fee regardless of theoretically or practicall..

if only that had happened it was good news. but the fact is that the btc transaction certainly costs money. because the shipping party certainly does not want to be free. so everything needs a fee, it can't be free.
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Sending is possible, but the reciever wont ever get those Bitcoins. Miners get rewards and the fees you send when sending Bitcoin. But when there is no fee, miners wont have profit on mining your transaction block and they will skip it and your Bitcoins will be lost  because your transaction wont get any confirmation.
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I would know if it is possible to send BTC without a transaction fee regardless of theoretically or practicall..

it was possible, i really miss 0 sat/byte fees, you can still send it


1> create transaction using any raw transaction sign tool
2> put fee 0 sat/byte
3> relay it to nodes that accept 0 sat


Another way is it use CPFP
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as far as I know it won't happen, we need miners to move assets from one address to another, or what we call transactions. and the simple logic, miners (as couriers) will not provide their services for free, because they also need money to carry out their services. so the concept is the same as human life in general, we cannot survive / run a transaction without other people, in this case a fee
I agree. It is impossible because transaction fee is what you pay to process anything you have to send anywhere. Sometimes for fast transfer you have to used the maximum fee or if it is lower which you can wait longer to finish it. No transaction fee is like sending something online without internet connection, it won't happen.
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