Is it possible to convert WIF to seed phrases (BIP39)? - page 2.

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Quote from: nc50lc on February 13, 2024, 02:40:24 AM

Isn't WIF already in "easy to copy, easy to write" format with confusing characters omitted since it's in BASE58;
And it's not long either; the common 12-word seed phrase is even longer than it even with the spaces removed.

It's still a long string of characters and numbers that make no apparent sense to the human eye in the format they are written it. Even if a recovery phrase is longer, it's made up of familiar words you have seen thousands of times, making it easy to back up and even remember if you are into mind tricks. Making a physical backup of a WIF key still requires more patience not to mess something up as it can have devastating consequences if you do.

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Quote from: shield132 on February 09, 2024, 04:59:38 PM

-snip- but I want to back up and safely store them on paper as seed phrases instead of long and ugly WIF key format.

Isn't WIF already in "easy to copy, easy to write" format with confusing characters omitted since it's in BASE58;
And it's not long either; the common 12-word seed phrase is even longer than it even with the spaces removed.

Quote from: shield132 on February 09, 2024, 04:59:38 PM

Is this possible?

Yes, start from "entropy->mnemonic->seed->master private key-.....->child private key"
(but you'll have to write your own script since i can't find one that does that)

But it will be more confusing than WIF since you'll have to take note of the derivation path (the "..." above) to use to restore the private key of that vanity address.
Wallets will also restore more addresses than just your vanity address if it's generated from a BIP39 seed phrase, not that it's an issue.

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Quote from: shield132 on February 09, 2024, 04:59:38 PM

I have a vanity Bitcoin address that I have been safely holding for years. I just love vanity addresses and I want to generate some more but I want to back up and safely store them on paper as seed phrases instead of long and ugly WIF key format. Is this possible?

No, that's not possible.

Basically, you can turn any random 128 or 256 bits string into a BIP39 mnemonic. But that seed phrase won't be able to spit out a particular private key you wanted. Every BIP39 mnemonic you feed into the wallet must go through the hash function first, which is a one-way function and cannot be reversed.

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Quote from: shield132 on February 09, 2024, 04:59:38 PM

Btw it's okay for me to generate a new vanity address if there is a program like vanitygen or vanitysearch that will generate results in seeds instead of WIF keys.

If there is enough demand for such a tool (considering how I keep seeing topics like this pop up), it could be created very easily. You'd start from a random seed (128 to 256 bits) then keep incrementing it (+1) and derive the first child key at a predefined derivation path until you get the desired vanity address. Obviously this is MUCH slower than vanitygen style algorithm but it is possible to brute force small number of initial characters this way.

Other than that, just generate a vanity key then convert that WIF to a mnemonic (256-bit entropy to 24 words) to make it easier to write it down.

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Quote from: shield132 on February 09, 2024, 04:59:38 PM

Btw it's okay for me to generate a new vanity address if there is a program like vanitygen or vanitysearch that will generate results in seeds instead of WIF keys.

Base on previous answers there is no direct program to do that since you cannot derive a seed phrase from a private key. The way will be to generate the seed phrase, then the seed, the extended private key, its private key and then public keys. It is this public keys that could actually give you addresses. You see this is complex. Also there’s possibility that this seed phrase wouldn’t recover your vanity address if you import it.

A way out is to covert that WIF keys to a mnemonic to make the back up easier as you have wanted. Here is a an old post by hosseinimr93 on how to convert wif key to mnemonic

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I think this kind of question was asked some weeks ago. You can not generate vanity address using seed phrase. Although, it is possible, but there is no known available tool that you can use to generate it.

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This is the thread that I am referring to: Mass BTC Wallet Generator with mnemonic andbip39. You can go through it and see some people's reply.

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I have a vanity Bitcoin address that I have been safely holding for years. I just love vanity addresses and I want to generate some more but I want to back up and safely store them on paper as seed phrases instead of long and ugly WIF key format. Is this possible? I spent a lot of times with Google and I wasn't able to not only find an answer but to find a question too. I hope this is not a stupid question but it's probably a shame from such an old user.
Btw it's okay for me to generate a new vanity address if there is a program like vanitygen or vanitysearch that will generate results in seeds instead of WIF keys.

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