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Quote from: Bravut on May 08, 2024, 07:24:43 PM

Quote from: livingfree on May 08, 2024, 06:51:39 PM

If the kids are taking gambling more seriously than their school then they have to check out the parents if they're guiding them properly.

If you know someone personally OP that they've got kids or the kids themselves are more focused to gambling than their studies, report it to the school administrator and to their parents.

With too much usage of the internet is also helping these kids to get more of gambling and that's why, proper guidance and limit of their usage is a must which is the duty of the parents.

I agree with you. Lack of parental supervision is also one of the major factor causing the increasing rate of bad habit and practice in teenagers. If the parents play there role with a strong hand of discipline I doubt this will be the case at least the fear in the children will limit the extend to which they incorporate such habit.

While, there are parents that does their duties. There are also kids that are hard headed and no matter what reminder and supervision they get from their parents, they don't obey them.

Quote from: Bravut on May 08, 2024, 07:24:43 PM

If those teen now take gambling as a source of income how then are they gonna live in the years coming.

Many of them are going to realize that if they're going to treat it as a source of income, they'll be having hard time in doing that.

That's why they need to study, gain a skill and work their asses so that they can earn money when they grow old and just gamble as a pastime.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 07, 2024, 05:08:10 PM

So what do you guys think about this situation at hand now.

The betting shop is the party at fault because it does not prohibit the school child from gambling even though it is clear that they is still underage because still wear uniforms when gambling. It's just that you need to check the rules in your country on what the age limit is that is allowed to start gambling. If it turns out that the betting shop is breaking the rules then you should report it to authorities to take action.
Letting school children gamble is a stupid act because they might use the money for school fees because the funds they have are of course limited and not being old enough to gamble will make them unaware of the risks of gambling.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 07, 2024, 05:08:10 PM

Because nowadays the younger ones take gambling more seriously then school. ~

I don't want to even read further. It's simply unacceptable. Their parents or their teachers, or both, should find a way to explain to the kids clearly that firstly they have slim chances of winning life-changing amounts and secondly even they win they will not be able to enjoy it without being educated people. The right way of going would be this: get the best education you can, find a proper job with good salary, and then entertain yourself with gambling however you like. But not the other way round.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 07, 2024, 05:08:10 PM

Because nowadays the younger ones take gambling more seriously then school. Yesterday i got back home early so I decided to step out and go to a betting shop to catch some fun while gambling, I saw two teenagers gambling with their school uniforms on them.

I asked someone besides me why did they allow this boy's to come in with their uniforms and gamble, he said did they put any restrictions that younger ones are not allowed to gamble. I said but it's not normal, I replied him what if this are your kids would you be happy seeing them gambling with their uniforms on them. So what do you guys think about this situation at hand now.

I know it is normal that gambling as a teenager is an illegal act and I have seen in online gambling platforms and in physical gambling shops it is statec out that gambling is for people who are 18+ plus above but even with this rule some people who are below still go ahead to play gambling, and in physical gambling shops agents working their are aware that some of the people coming to play gambling are underage but they still collect money from them to allow them to play gambling.

The gambling law is not a strict one, even if they ate not in support of underage to play gambling by their own rules, some underage still go ahead to play gambling and nothing is being done. It is not right for underage to play gambling but when they are caught playing gambling their is nothing that will be done because the law is not a strict one.

I totally agree with you and I’m not familiar with underaged gambling in a physical store but rather This very act is very much common in online gambling and the fact that, there is a warning for people under the age of 18 not to gamble,that doesn’t mean they might be restricted as I think the warning was only advising under aged from gambling as there are a lot of complications and complexity in gambling which they might not be able to handle and I think there are some underaged who are matured emotionally matured way above their age.

In conclusion, I stand in the fact that, letting under aged gambling isn’t a good one and the government, as well as the gambling regulators also need to look into this.

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In this situation, the responsable who let these children enter that place must be blamed. Not only is gambling forbidden to the children, but the risks go beyond that and reach their lives. They are not in the right place to spend time and play.
I think the matter is not in your hands or in my hands. Many things have changed, and the attraction of young people to gambling is noticeable these days, as you said. I personally started gambling at a young age, and this is what I do not advise young people to do, but the matter remains in the hands of the parents in raising awareness and advice in the first place, and then Society. In our time, everyone can gamble with fake identity , especially on sites and online casinos, and they do not realize that the risks are great. Some may even steal from home or engage in crime... So this is absolutely wrong

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 07, 2024, 05:08:10 PM

Because nowadays the younger ones take gambling more seriously then school. Yesterday i got back home early so I decided to step out and go to a betting shop to catch some fun while gambling, I saw two teenagers gambling with their school uniforms on them.

I asked someone besides me why did they allow this boy's to come in with their uniforms and gamble, he said did they put any restrictions that younger ones are not allowed to gamble. I said but it's not normal, I replied him what if this are your kids would you be happy seeing them gambling with their uniforms on them. So what do you guys think about this situation at hand now.

I know it is normal that gambling as a teenager is an illegal act and I have seen in online gambling platforms and in physical gambling shops it is statec out that gambling is for people who are 18+ plus above but even with this rule some people who are below still go ahead to play gambling, and in physical gambling shops agents working their are aware that some of the people coming to play gambling are underage but they still collect money from them to allow them to play gambling.

The gambling law is not a strict one, even if they ate not in support of underage to play gambling by their own rules, some underage still go ahead to play gambling and nothing is being done. It is not right for underage to play gambling but when they are caught playing gambling their is nothing that will be done because the law is not a strict one.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 07, 2024, 05:08:10 PM

So what do you guys think about this situation at hand now.

What I think about such situation is that its not upright to allow teen-ager to participate in gambling, knowing true well that they are under age children and may be addicted to it. The fault is from the agent in-charge, he shouldn't have allowed such thing to happen. It is not advisable to allow children to gamble. though it depends on the country in question or the government policies on gambling. It depends on government and their jurisdictions. If the law parmit then it's fine but if it doesn't parmit, then it is the responsibility of the agent to take care of such thing since the government can not be present in every casino shops parhaps they should be able to handle such case themselves by not allowing them to play such gamble.

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Minors should not be allowed to gamble especially these kids are still wearing their uniform. The owner must have a certain rule about the age of gamblers who can play on their betting shop. Here in our place, it is prohibited for younger ones to enter in a physical casino, they're strict on following the set rules.

Aside from minors are still young to engage in gambling, they are still relying on their parents financially. Therefore, the money that these kids are spending in gambling came from their parents and probably meant for school needs and as their allowance. That's why it's crucial also for parents to monitor their kids. Proper education is really necessary.

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Quote from: adpinbr on May 08, 2024, 03:12:49 PM

Like it has already been stated that before anyone should gamble the person must be above 18 years to gamble but nowadays, a lot of children gambles because they understand what gambling is all about and they enjoy gambling even more than the elders or I should call it the other ones that have been gambling for decades so therefore everyone intention is to make money so I don’t see any reason to stop anyone from gambling as long as you understand or gambling is you are free to gamble that is my own opinion.

Everyone has an interest in gambling, so anyone can gamble as per their wish and there is no restriction. But age should be given importance. Because if the age is low, a gambler will be addicted but he will not get rid of that addiction. Moreover, those who are minors will fail to manage money for gambling. They have to rely on others to provide money after loss and at some point they will covet other people's money. They will not hesitate to do any crime as well. But the big problem is that it is difficult to determine how old someone is. So I don't think we can bring much clarity on this. Not all gambling platforms take this issue seriously anymore.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on May 09, 2024, 05:48:26 AM

Quote from: Hispo on May 08, 2024, 11:53:19 AM

The school would definitely punish anyone engaging with gambling, drinking and smoking while using the uniform, in some cases, depending whether the school is a religious one, it could go as far as reaching to the professors and teachers themselves, so they have to make sure not to wear the uniform while doing those things. My bet is that the school never figured it out and nobody was willing sell out the identities of those teens to the authorities of the school anyways.
Again, if there is something I have learnt in this situations when people who is not supposed to be able to legally gamble manage to do it anyways, most of the times the clues point to the greed and the seek for profit which comes from the operator or owner of the betting place / casino.

Since all this is about money, then the solution would be easy, just by enforcing fines to those casinos/betting houses to allow children and teens to gamble would be enough for them to learn the lesson and ban children from entering the establishment completely.

I suspect that if the school found out that a student went to a casino shop, then of course he would get punished because it worsens the image of the school, let alone wearing a uniform unless he is not wearing a uniform then the parents themselves punish him.

Yes, it's like that, the school doesn't know about it outside of that, as for people who report to the school, most people don't care unless the person reporting it really wants to save him from gambling addiction, but still, if he is reported, he will get a severe punishment, maybe he will think again.

The authority to fine casinos is the government, how should the policy be carried out if there are rogue casinos that allow it, but this seems intentional if a child enters wearing a uniform and then gambles.

Still, the casino always warns that those under 18 years old should not play, but while this is easy to check in offline gambling, casinos that do not have a CIC before starting the game will not be able to do this. Moreover, players under 18 years of age can use tricks and go through the procedure of uploading parental documents. However, CICs have now become more reliable and require an online selfie of a person with a document, which will not allow you to go through this procedure.

Of course, it is better for young people not to play, they will have time to do this in the future, but I think that the danger lies in the fact that some of them have an irresistible desire to play, they are sure that they will win and will not have to do anything, including study. This undermines the foundations of development; the danger lies in such trifles.

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Quote from: junder on May 08, 2024, 09:04:19 AM

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Of course parents will provide good guidance to their children, it is impossible for parents to provide bad guidance, because that is not a good thing for their future. and with their activities outside the home and outside school, the surrounding environment can determine who they want to mix with. If they have the wrong social circle, maybe they can do bad things, such as getting to know and also doing gambling or other bad things, but even that depends on the children themselves, if they can differentiate between good things for him and bad things for him.

Herein lies the very important control. Parents become the most influential person in maintaining children's habits. If at home they are able to provide the best approach for children, then when children are outside the house are not fully affected by association.

Parents can only be able to at home, when children are outside the house, the child will be far from the reach of parents. At least with the approach that I mean is done well while at home, children will be able to think of what they do.
Still the child's habits have not changed, as parents have done their duties and the risk will be borne by themselves when he finished school.

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Quote from: Bravut on May 08, 2024, 07:24:43 PM

Quote from: livingfree on May 08, 2024, 06:51:39 PM

If the kids are taking gambling more seriously than their school then they have to check out the parents if they're guiding them properly.

If you know someone personally OP that they've got kids or the kids themselves are more focused to gambling than their studies, report it to the school administrator and to their parents.

With too much usage of the internet is also helping these kids to get more of gambling and that's why, proper guidance and limit of their usage is a must which is the duty of the parents.

I agree with you. Lack of parental supervision is also one of the major factor causing the increasing rate of bad habit and practice in teenagers. If the parents play there role with a strong hand of discipline I doubt this will be the case at least the fear in the children will limit the extend to which they incorporate such habit.

If those teen now take gambling as a source of income how then are they gonna live in the years coming.

And again, parents are to blame. The thing is, yes, parental guidance is a big factor or responsibility of a parent so that their child's will not commit crimes or do bad influence and bad things that are not appropriate to their age, but we all know parental guidance or parents looking out for their child is not 24/7, meaning if the child is going for their child is not 24/7, meaning if the child is going to school then the child is out of the guidance of the parents. No matter how strict or how the parents guide their children, if the friends or the people surrounding them are a bad influence, then there's nothing a parent could do that.

In short, if the child is in the right mind, he or she will not let himself or herself be involved in something like gambling, which may result in bad happenings following that. The parents should not always be blamed; they can't monitor their children 24/7.

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Quote from: Hispo on May 08, 2024, 11:53:19 AM

The school would definitely punish anyone engaging with gambling, drinking and smoking while using the uniform, in some cases, depending whether the school is a religious one, it could go as far as reaching to the professors and teachers themselves, so they have to make sure not to wear the uniform while doing those things. My bet is that the school never figured it out and nobody was willing sell out the identities of those teens to the authorities of the school anyways.
Again, if there is something I have learnt in this situations when people who is not supposed to be able to legally gamble manage to do it anyways, most of the times the clues point to the greed and the seek for profit which comes from the operator or owner of the betting place / casino.

Since all this is about money, then the solution would be easy, just by enforcing fines to those casinos/betting houses to allow children and teens to gamble would be enough for them to learn the lesson and ban children from entering the establishment completely.

I suspect that if the school found out that a student went to a casino shop, then of course he would get punished because it worsens the image of the school, let alone wearing a uniform unless he is not wearing a uniform then the parents themselves punish him.

Yes, it's like that, the school doesn't know about it outside of that, as for people who report to the school, most people don't care unless the person reporting it really wants to save him from gambling addiction, but still, if he is reported, he will get a severe punishment, maybe he will think again.

The authority to fine casinos is the government, how should the policy be carried out if there are rogue casinos that allow it, but this seems intentional if a child enters wearing a uniform and then gambles.

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Gambling has been around for a long time and it seems that many school children, especially those aged 15 and over, have started to learn about gambling using their pocket money. I am no longer surprised to hear that in this more modern era, gambling has become commonplace and many people are getting to know gambling, even school children who are just getting to know their identity are interested in gambling and even now many school children smoke even though it is prohibited, many naughty children nowadays try things that are detrimental to themselves, usually they are influenced by The surrounding environment and even parents also play a big role in educating their children when they become teenagers.

Where I live, there are lots of young people still at school who gamble on slots and make deposits using their pocket money. I also can't advise them because I'm not their parent or relative. I just think it's a sad and sad thing I can't even imagine my child as a teenager doing deviant things, this could affect his future if he hangs out with the wrong friends.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 08, 2024, 06:51:39 PM

If the kids are taking gambling more seriously than their school then they have to check out the parents if they're guiding them properly.

If you know someone personally OP that they've got kids or the kids themselves are more focused to gambling than their studies, report it to the school administrator and to their parents.

With too much usage of the internet is also helping these kids to get more of gambling and that's why, proper guidance and limit of their usage is a must which is the duty of the parents.

I agree with you. Lack of parental supervision is also one of the major factor causing the increasing rate of bad habit and practice in teenagers. If the parents play there role with a strong hand of discipline I doubt this will be the case at least the fear in the children will limit the extend to which they incorporate such habit.

If those teen now take gambling as a source of income how then are they gonna live in the years coming.

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If the kids are taking gambling more seriously than their school then they have to check out the parents if they're guiding them properly.

If you know someone personally OP that they've got kids or the kids themselves are more focused to gambling than their studies, report it to the school administrator and to their parents.

With too much usage of the internet is also helping these kids to get more of gambling and that's why, proper guidance and limit of their usage is a must which is the duty of the parents.

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Obviously, it is not really advisable; gambling actually is not advisable to any people 'coz it should be engaged with one's initiative. The downside of gambling at early age is simply lacking the permanent source of income to sustain this vice. No natter how good you are, there will always be times of losing especially on days you wouldn't be lucky. Another factor with age is risk-taking tolerance. They tend to have higher levels and that makes them more prone to gambling addiction. They are most likely to bet huge amount of money due to theit drive of becoming rich as an adult, but lacks the idea when it comes on handling the consequences of doing so. When they encounter big loss, they are most likely to either bet more due to frustration. And how would they sustain it if most of the younger individuals are still studying and not working? They'd use their parent's money in form of their allowance and thiw could push them to either lie or steal if it won't be aided. This is just a general possibility and ofcourse it will still depend on the individual, but this is just the common possible outcome.

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Quote from: adpinbr on May 08, 2024, 03:12:49 PM

Like it has already been stated that before anyone should gamble the person must be above 18 years to gamble but nowadays, a lot of children gambles because they understand what gambling is all about and they enjoy gambling even more than the elders or I should call it the other ones that have been gambling for decades so therefore everyone intention is to make money so I don’t see any reason to stop anyone from gambling as long as you understand or gambling is you are free to gamble that is my own opinion.

I believe that as we grow up, we very quickly forget what we experienced when we were 15 or 20 years old. Our way of thinking changes so much that at 30 we think that we have always seen the world as we do now. But I remember that in my youth everyone was more carefree and cheerful. THIS is why gambling at a young age is so dangerous. At 18, no one thinks about the consequences. Everyone wants a lot of money and the sooner the better. That’s why I’m often glad that in my youth I didn’t even know what gambling was. God saved me.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on May 08, 2024, 10:43:06 AM

gambling has become open to the extent that when you fail to hold your children tight they will think that the gambling is the best option, in normal circumstances any child that is not up to 18 years is not supposed to participate in gambling and that is another reason that we encourage people not to discuss anything that have to do with the gambling whenever they are around home because their children we think that it is the best thing so far to do is don't participate in gambling so gambling is meant for adult not for children so any child that is up to 18 years and above is eligible to participate in gambling

With current technological developments, of course it will make it easier for anyone to access gambling sites. As parents who fail to supervise their children, this will be very unfortunate because those who gamble before they are more than 18 years old will of course find it very difficult to control themselves and will has a bad impact on their lives, of course it would be better not to talk about gambling in front of our children so that they don't get curious about it and try it themselves.

what I'm saying in essence is that we have to monitor our children very well in anything that has to do with the internet because internet have a positive impact and they also a negative impact in anything that has to do with it so I know very well that gambling is something that is not good and involving ourselves in gambling I know that it might result at something right or wrong but we cannot extend it to our children or allow our children to take part for gambling at early stage that will bring a distraction to them not to focus and do what they are supposed to do as a child.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on May 07, 2024, 05:11:55 PM

It depends on the country and their legal framework concerning gambling and how the law enforcement services are in such regions as regards to under age gambling.

If I were the president of the Nation that it experiencing the epidemic of children gambling I will institute a law or legal framework says that the parents guardian or anyone in charge of a child gambling will face six months in jail without the option of a fine or will have their kids taken from them and placed in to a government assisted foster home. Furthermore the gambling center where kids are caught gambling will be shut down and the owner arrested and jailed for 6 months without the option the a fine. This will curb reduced rate of kids gambling.

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