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legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
November 20, 2011, 08:37:38 AM
#30
Cool. Thanks so much for the clarification.

Hey, I'm not like some evil broker. Whatever things I post regarding Bitcoinica's trading activity or whatsoever, must be from the past (already hedged orders and liquidated positions). It's also morally incorrect (and sometimes illegal) to read customers' orders and trade at the same time.

I have a rule for myself (and I hope other exchanges' owners can follow):

Every time after seeing customers' orders, intentionally or unintentionally, refrain from trading or discussing them publicly for 24 hours.

The temptation to do this surely must be great though. I find it worrying that the operators of dark-pool trading platforms like bitcoinica (perhaps ONLY bitcoinica) are privy to the collective trade decisions of it's users when everyone else is not. Especially when these businesses are not subject to the stringent external auditing processes as real world institutions.

I know you have stated that you promise not to trade based on this information, but it is not really good enough for me because a promise is hardly a rock solid guarantee. How can we be sure you are telling the truth, and are not going to trade against your clients? Trust is just not enough, even though you seem like a decent guy zhou.

Given the open-source spirit of bitcoin, I think it would only be right to open your order books the same way mtgox and the other exchanges do. I know you said that this would leave bitcoinica open to manipulation, but my (admittedly poor) understanding of game theory is that as long as everyone has access to the information, it would be no more problematic than it is now. What do you think about this?

It's not as if the folks at MtGox still couldn't get an advantage in trading.  They know how much bitcoin and USD is sitting around off the order books.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
November 20, 2011, 08:27:24 AM
#29
Cool. Thanks so much for the clarification.

Hey, I'm not like some evil broker. Whatever things I post regarding Bitcoinica's trading activity or whatsoever, must be from the past (already hedged orders and liquidated positions). It's also morally incorrect (and sometimes illegal) to read customers' orders and trade at the same time.

I have a rule for myself (and I hope other exchanges' owners can follow):

Every time after seeing customers' orders, intentionally or unintentionally, refrain from trading or discussing them publicly for 24 hours.

The temptation to do this surely must be great though. I find it worrying that the operators of dark-pool trading platforms like bitcoinica (perhaps ONLY bitcoinica) are privy to the collective trade decisions of it's users when everyone else is not. Especially when these businesses are not subject to the stringent external auditing processes as real world institutions.

I know you have stated that you promise not to trade based on this information, but it is not really good enough for me because a promise is hardly a rock solid guarantee. How can we be sure you are telling the truth, and are not going to trade against your clients? Trust is just not enough, even though you seem like a decent guy zhou.

Given the open-source spirit of bitcoin, I think it would only be right to open your order books the same way mtgox and the other exchanges do. I know you said that this would leave bitcoinica open to manipulation, but my (admittedly poor) understanding of game theory is that as long as everyone has access to the information, it would be no more problematic than it is now. What do you think about this?
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000
November 20, 2011, 08:06:43 AM
#28
Cool. Thanks so much for the clarification.

Hey, I'm not like some evil broker. Whatever things I post regarding Bitcoinica's trading activity or whatsoever, must be from the past (already hedged orders and liquidated positions). It's also morally incorrect (and sometimes illegal) to read customers' orders and trade at the same time.

I have a rule for myself (and I hope other exchanges' owners can follow):

Every time after seeing customers' orders, intentionally or unintentionally, refrain from trading or discussing them publicly for 24 hours.

Great. I would love to see this statement also from MtGox and other exchanges.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 20, 2011, 07:36:07 AM
#27
Cool. Thanks so much for the clarification.

Hey, I'm not like some evil broker. Whatever things I post regarding Bitcoinica's trading activity or whatsoever, must be from the past (already hedged orders and liquidated positions). It's also morally incorrect (and sometimes illegal) to read customers' orders and trade at the same time.

I have a rule for myself (and I hope other exchanges' owners can follow):

Every time after seeing customers' orders, intentionally or unintentionally, refrain from trading or discussing them publicly for 24 hours.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000
November 20, 2011, 07:31:27 AM
#26
Cool. Thanks so much for the clarification.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 20, 2011, 07:28:45 AM
#25
Is it bottom? No.

Is it double bottom? No.

Is it triple bottom? Seems no.

Is it quadruple bottom? Not likely.

Is it bottomless? Perhaps.


Seems like you a shorting bitcoins yourself.

If this is true, I am not sure this is right, as owner of bitcoinica.

Can you clarify, please?


I don't trade myself. I posted this just for fun.

I was having a 300 BTC long position, but liquidated recently. I have never had any position over 300 BTC.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000
November 20, 2011, 07:24:55 AM
#24
Is it bottom? No.

Is it double bottom? No.

Is it triple bottom? Seems no.

Is it quadruple bottom? Not likely.

Is it bottomless? Perhaps.


Seems like you a shorting bitcoins yourself.

If this is true, I am not sure this is right, as owner of bitcoinica.

Can you clarify, please?
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
November 20, 2011, 07:15:54 AM
#23
It's 2.37 now - so your prediction did not work.

..

Yet..


You cannot make the time to go back to the line you drown.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
November 20, 2011, 06:59:03 AM
#22
Is it bottom? No.

Is it double bottom? No.

Is it triple bottom? Seems no.

Is it quadruple bottom? Not likely.

Is it bottomless? Perhaps.
donator
Activity: 392
Merit: 252
November 20, 2011, 06:54:38 AM
#21
It's 2.37 now - so your prediction did not work.

..

Yet..
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
November 20, 2011, 06:40:52 AM
#20
It's 2.37 now - so your prediction did not work.
donator
Activity: 392
Merit: 252
November 20, 2011, 04:46:06 AM
#19
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
November 20, 2011, 04:26:41 AM
#18


Pretty suggestive isn't it?

If it doesn't keep going up it might go down?
zby
legendary
Activity: 1594
Merit: 1001
November 20, 2011, 03:59:27 AM
#17


Pretty suggestive isn't it?
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
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November 19, 2011, 08:59:14 PM
#16
the "bottom" is called "manipulator" and YES that are freaking fake walls. ask nearly anyone in this forum: we saw the appear out of nowhere and we will see them disappear out of nowhere. buy now, loose ~20%.

but if you want to buy first, lets go! mr. M is happy to sell you some overpriced coins.  Sad
legendary
Activity: 1692
Merit: 1018
November 18, 2011, 09:30:58 PM
#15
I wouldn't worry about it too much.  This thing isn't falling below $2.

What do you mean, worry? It's 3am and I'm only up in case there are more cheap coins to get. Sure I hold BTC, but their fate surely isn't decided today. Or do I look like I sell BTC below 2.5? Cheesy haha, that's a good one.

Unfortunately, that big player there jumped in already, and we're again not seeing any action below 2.

Many people post on these forums with something along the lines of: "Let bitcoin fall further to X, I'll just buy up all the cheap bitcoins".  The only problem is the poster assumes the price will go up from that point.  What if it keeps falling further and there's other people out there thinking 'let it fall even further, I'll buy all of them at price Y'.  Catching a falling knife, is the saying that comes to mind.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1002
November 18, 2011, 09:18:17 PM
#14
I wouldn't worry about it too much.  This thing isn't falling below $2.

What do you mean, worry? It's 3am and I'm only up in case there are more cheap coins to get. Sure I hold BTC, but their fate surely isn't decided today. Or do I look like I sell BTC below 2.5? Cheesy haha, that's a good one.

Unfortunately, that big player there jumped in already, and we're again not seeing any action below 2.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
November 18, 2011, 09:13:13 PM
#13
I wouldn't worry about it too much.  This thing isn't falling below $2.

It wouldn't seem so anyway. Too many people shouting and blabbing on this forum about how they were waiting for sub $2 prices.  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1692
Merit: 1018
November 18, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
#12
I wouldn't worry about it too much.  This thing isn't falling below $2.
member
Activity: 96
Merit: 10
November 18, 2011, 06:45:49 PM
#11
2.04, <2 and ~2.04 now ?

If it is - then it is time to buy Smiley

Don't rely on technical analysis in this market. It is too small. Technical analysis only works when enough people are watching the same patterns. It si a self fulfilling prophecy.

If someone decides to buy large amount of bitcoins tomorrow the price will skyrocket. The same is true in the opposite direction.
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