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Topic: Is Linux Ubuntu the most secure OS to store my BTC on? (Read 3102 times)

newbie
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I'm installing Ubuntu right now and seems much more aesthetic than i thought open source software should look like.  It looks like it has an apps store as well.  Which implies to me that the developers have some kind of monetary incentive.  Or is it much to do with nothing?  Or am i just paranoid? What do you think of Ubuntu?  

I think it is all about to boot a live untouched version of ANY OS without the Internet connection and to make cold wallet. Just make sure MD5 checksum of your live system matches (for paranoics).
newbie
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Been using Lubuntu for 1 year and really enjoy this light-weight distribution.
Yep I use Lubuntu on an old PC and it just flies.
I'd recommend it to anyone with old and outdated machines.

Some more distros you could try on old PCs are Linux Mint LXDE edition and Slitaz.
I've tried every distro I've suggested and any of the above distros is secure and can make your old rigs fly!
legendary
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You are WRONG!
no. Openbsd protected with laser-sharks, would be the most secure solution.
legendary
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Google uses Ubuntu on lots of their machines. But I think they do strip Ubuntu from stuff that connects online and use their own repositories and stuff like that.

There's a video on Youtube where some guy from Google talks about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu3pT_9nb8o

I trust Ubuntu more than other distros simply because it's the most popular meaning more eyes watching the code for security issues. I only install LTS versions.


Ubuntu is like the Windows of the linux distributions.

I've been using Debian since before the inception of Ubuntu, stable as hell!
donator
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Don't know if this has been mentioned, but, if you want your machine to be more secure, don't install Java at all.  Not on your computer or the browser plugin, just don't have it on your computer, and if you do, don't go to random Bitcoin-related websites which ask you to activate a Java applet and then accept it without a second thought and come back and say something like "Oh noes my account is haxx0rd modz plz, plz mods plz"
Thanks for reminding me. I've been encountering less and less Java in browsing (maybe from change in browsing habits over the years). I think I can finally accept completely dumping it without exception.
vip
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Been using Lubuntu for 1 year and really enjoy this light-weight distribution.
newbie
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Safer than Windows for sure
sr. member
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I used Ubuntu for several years, until they went with the Unity Desktop, which I hate.
If you are a Linux noob instead of of Ubuntu have a look at Linux Mint, which is still debian Ubuntu under the hood. Below is the list of distro I like for making the transition from Windoze.

Zorin OS (Debian)
http://zorin-os.com/
Manjaro (Arch)
http://manjaro.org/

I am running Manjaro on a VM and really liking it, but If you want have a more Windows like desktop Manjaro has a very simple clean UI and is very easy to use. I am anout to add it as a dual boot on my Windows PC. Zorin is the most polished of them all.

Running a live boot cd or a virtual machine to test various flavors of linux  is a very good idea. VirtualBox is a free program that is free and simple to use and try several distros, till you find one you like.
newbie
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In truth, no matter the track record of any OS, there is no way to be sure that it is secure unless all of its source code is available for review and improvement. So, personally I would recommend fully free (open source) operating systems like Debian, Trisquel, gNewSense, and Parabola.
If you use one of those, you can be sure that what you think the software is doing is actually what it is doing. Keep in mind that the web and bitcoin would not exist except for the philosophical innovations of the free software movement (especially GNU). Roll Eyes
full member
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Linux Mint 13 - More stable, based on Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 LTS (Long Term Support).  I'm also more comfortable with the user interface in 13. The new Unity desktop and even the new Cinnamon are trying to to move too fast and incorporate too many changes from the tried and true IMO.
vip
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More secure than Mac? Don't be too sure about it, Mac is actually very secure and I haven't read of someone being on Mac and getting bitcoin stolen.
It does happen: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-22-btc-stolen-from-bitcoin-qt-v081-beta-wallet-on-os-x-1075-266813

How does that show a weakness in the Operating System? That shows a weakness in social engineering, of here is an easy to use vanity generator but it is really a trojan.
He said he did not read about anyone getting BTC stolen on a Mac. I did not really follow the Win vs Mac vs Linux security discussion.
vip
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More secure than Mac? Don't be too sure about it, Mac is actually very secure and I haven't read of someone being on Mac and getting bitcoin stolen.
It does happen: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hacked-22-btc-stolen-from-bitcoin-qt-v081-beta-wallet-on-os-x-1075-266813
newbie
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Don't know if this has been mentioned, but, if you want your machine to be more secure, don't install Java at all.  Not on your computer or the browser plugin, just don't have it on your computer, and if you do, don't go to random Bitcoin-related websites which ask you to activate a Java applet and then accept it without a second thought and come back and say something like "Oh noes my account is haxx0rd modz plz, plz mods plz"
This is a key to being secure, no java.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
You are a geek if you are too early to the party!
In vanilla format, windows and Ubuntu are about as secure as each other.

Ha ha ha ha! Not even close.

I'm sorry but not only is windows closed source but academic studies have demonstrated that the linux kernel has far few bugs per line of code than Windows. Most security holes are the result of bugs.

The Red October malware network that went un-discovered for years. Was it open source or closed source vulnerabilities it exploited?

And this is exactly why they are both as secure as each other!  Having more faith in something, because some academic told you its ok, is really bad practice! Wink

All the statements you made are discussing non technical issues. Licencing doesn't make something more secure, and its not the kernel we are discussing, but the whole package, including the apps that run on it. 

As an example, when you look for expolits in Linux, you check out things like Samba local root exploits, OpenSSH, SETI@home, ProFTPD, Apache etc for flaws to get in, you don't tend to check out the Linux kernel, even though that also has flaws.
When you look for Windows exploits, you would look for the same type of things, but its all under the banner of Windows, and so the myth of Windows being more insecure continues - even though it was only really true in the late 90s - remember the Netbios file share exploit? Wink

Any computer is secure if the user is proactive in maintaining security, and not clicking on stuff they don't fully trust! Smiley


legendary
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Don't know if this has been mentioned, but, if you want your machine to be more secure, don't install Java at all.  Not on your computer or the browser plugin, just don't have it on your computer, and if you do, don't go to random Bitcoin-related websites which ask you to activate a Java applet and then accept it without a second thought and come back and say something like "Oh noes my account is haxx0rd modz plz, plz mods plz"
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
I'm installing Ubuntu right now and seems much more aesthetic than i thought open source software should look like.  It looks like it has an apps store as well.  Which implies to me that the developers have some kind of monetary incentive.  Or is it much to do with nothing?  Or am i just paranoid? What do you think of Ubuntu? 

Secure than windows & mac : Yes
Most secure linux os: Not sure

More secure than Mac? Don't be too sure about it, Mac is actually very secure and I haven't read of someone being on Mac and getting bitcoin stolen.

Agreed, OS X itself is very secure. One COULD go even one step further. Storing one's offline wallet in an encrypted sparsebundle disk image using a complex password would be considered EXTREMELY secure.

In fact, the main "security" concern at that point would be to ensure proper offsite backup of the encrypted disk image.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
the OS doesn't matter IMO. though Ubuntu may be safer than windows

what'ts more important is that you set up a decent wallet password and store it in the cloud like google drive or dropbox

ROFL! Nice! This may be the least secure way of storage possible.   Shocked
full member
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Any GNU/Linux OS will be much safer than Windows, but nothing is as safe as taking your wallet off-line. There are hardening scripts all over the net. In Ubuntu, the default firewall handling system is ufw https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/firewall.html. Other useful tools you might want to learn about are fail2ban and tripwire  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8758
full member
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Ubuntu server is more secure than ubuntu desktop which is more secure than windows.  But, the ease of use of an environment you know may outweigh any perceived improvement in security.

OSX has fewer reported vulnerabilities than windows and is easier for many to learn than ubuntu which is one of the easier linux distributions to use which may make OSX a better choice.
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