Topic: Is Microsoft reading UR emails?Windows 10 may threaten ur privacy watchdogs warn (Read 2031 times)
October 16, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
I am no longer surprised or shocked at these types of revelations. Of course they access our information. Sometimes for security reasons and sometimes to better target advertisements our way. It's been going on for years, way before Snowden exposed the issue.
October 15, 2015, 07:36:47 PM
Apple, Microsoft, Google and others have already been caught selling data to other entities. I only use free linux distributions at the momentand even now I do not have 100% privacy.
October 15, 2015, 06:30:41 PM
Microsoft no longer lets you opt-out of a Windows 10 upgrade
Windows users report Windows 10 upgrades are enforced on their systems
Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windows 7, 8 systems
Windows 10 upgrades reportedly appearing as mandatory for some users
Windows users report Windows 10 upgrades are enforced on their systems
Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windows 7, 8 systems
Windows 10 upgrades reportedly appearing as mandatory for some users
Bullshit. Just grab your old CD and load XT or 7 and load it.
You have to PAY FOR AN UPGRADE to 10.
There may be an exception for new computers out in the distribution chain after the release of 10, but which had 8 on them. So then..."It's only fair..."
Duh...
October 15, 2015, 05:41:25 PM
August 29, 2015, 03:33:49 PM
For those feeling safe by not upgrading, some are speculating Microsoft will also patch older versions with pretty much the same spying components: http://www.hakspek.com/security/updates-make-windows-7-and-8-spy-on-you-like-windows-10/
As far as Linux, wasn't there some controversy surrounding a distro in the past, mainly Ubuntu versions if I recall correctly, that also phoned home searches? Further, I believe some versions had Zeitgeist (the software not the movie) installed that did pretty much the same thing Windows 10 is doing, saving searches, keystrokes, etc.
As far as Linux, wasn't there some controversy surrounding a distro in the past, mainly Ubuntu versions if I recall correctly, that also phoned home searches? Further, I believe some versions had Zeitgeist (the software not the movie) installed that did pretty much the same thing Windows 10 is doing, saving searches, keystrokes, etc.
August 28, 2015, 10:21:09 AM
I already installed Linux Mint...
I tried Ubuntu a few years ago but I just couldn't get used to the switch. I've used Windows for everything since Windows 3.1... I learned Windows, and nothing else. I'm not computer illiterate, I use the command line in Windows for plenty of crap they try to hide or prevent, but with Linux it's totally different, it's frustrating to relearn something that I have a lifetime of experience with. It feels like I've moved to a different country where some happen to speak English somewhat, but as a second language, and I'm trying to learn how to communicate from square one with only a basic understanding.
Windows 10 drove me over the line, and I won't go back now. Ever... The other companies which routinely spy on us are bad, but they aren't so heavily invested in our personal space. They're just peeking through the windows, we can close the blinds on them when we choose... Windows 10 on the other hand, is sitting inside the living room breathing on your neck...
I tried Ubuntu a few years ago but I just couldn't get used to the switch. I've used Windows for everything since Windows 3.1... I learned Windows, and nothing else. I'm not computer illiterate, I use the command line in Windows for plenty of crap they try to hide or prevent, but with Linux it's totally different, it's frustrating to relearn something that I have a lifetime of experience with. It feels like I've moved to a different country where some happen to speak English somewhat, but as a second language, and I'm trying to learn how to communicate from square one with only a basic understanding.
Windows 10 drove me over the line, and I won't go back now. Ever... The other companies which routinely spy on us are bad, but they aren't so heavily invested in our personal space. They're just peeking through the windows, we can close the blinds on them when we choose... Windows 10 on the other hand, is sitting inside the living room breathing on your neck...
August 28, 2015, 09:34:10 AM
From the Terms of Service:
"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"
In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.
So this is what future will bring us? Total control of the corporations and governments. They are limiting our laws and under cover of protection want to spy on us, know everyting about us."Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"
In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.
Windows 10 is a major leap towards total infiltration of our personal space. Stay away from it if you value your privacy.
I would go so far as to say stay away from it even if you don't value your own privacy, but value the privacy of your family members and friends, and understand that people should have a right to have privacy. By getting Windows 10 you are pretty much condoning it, and this is not something that should be condoned, or they'll never learn and it will get worse.
August 28, 2015, 09:19:09 AM
From the Terms of Service:
"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"
In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.
So this is what future will bring us? Total control of the corporations and governments. They are limiting our laws and under cover of protection want to spy on us, know everyting about us."Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone;"
In other words, the police don't need a warrant anymore, they just have to ask.
Windows 10 is a major leap towards total infiltration of our personal space. Stay away from it if you value your privacy.
August 28, 2015, 08:58:35 AM
I upgraded. I had 8.1 before as it came loaded when I bought my laptop. I absolutely hated 8 and 8.1 and think they were the worst Microsoft OS since ME. Windows 10 is a slight improvement in performance and user friendliness.
As far as the security thing, well, it goes without saying that Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders of privacy. And so is Google. And so is Apple. And so is Facebook. And so is Yahoo. And on and on and on.
As far as the security thing, well, it goes without saying that Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders of privacy. And so is Google. And so is Apple. And so is Facebook. And so is Yahoo. And on and on and on.
whataboutery
Ok. Call it whatever you want. Just stating the obvious that Microsoft is not the only company that you need to look at if you are worried about your privacy on the internet.
August 28, 2015, 03:17:01 AM
I upgraded. I had 8.1 before as it came loaded when I bought my laptop. I absolutely hated 8 and 8.1 and think they were the worst Microsoft OS since ME. Windows 10 is a slight improvement in performance and user friendliness.
As far as the security thing, well, it goes without saying that Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders of privacy. And so is Google. And so is Apple. And so is Facebook. And so is Yahoo. And on and on and on.
As far as the security thing, well, it goes without saying that Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders of privacy. And so is Google. And so is Apple. And so is Facebook. And so is Yahoo. And on and on and on.
whataboutery
August 27, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
I upgraded. I had 8.1 before as it came loaded when I bought my laptop. I absolutely hated 8 and 8.1 and think they were the worst Microsoft OS since ME. Windows 10 is a slight improvement in performance and user friendliness.
As far as the security thing, well, it goes without saying that Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders of privacy. And so is Google. And so is Apple. And so is Facebook. And so is Yahoo. And on and on and on.
As far as the security thing, well, it goes without saying that Microsoft is one of the biggest offenders of privacy. And so is Google. And so is Apple. And so is Facebook. And so is Yahoo. And on and on and on.
August 26, 2015, 10:49:01 AM
We are all shot down in this.
Imagine that you have a Linux machine. Imagine that you are well into protecting yourself in ways that no hacker can break through to get to you. Ain't good enough. Here's why.
People are upgrading to Windows 10 by the droves. The sheeple out there don't have a clue that anybody would want to intercept aspects of what they might consider their private info. Those that do either say something like, "I have nothing to hide," or, "That's life." And they upgrade.
So, what do the sheeple have to do with you? If you never do anything personal over the Internet with them, maybe nothing. But if you use email, or do banking, or purchase products with one of these Windows 10 users, kiss any info you shared with any of them good-bye. Microsoft has it.
Imagine that you have a Linux machine. Imagine that you are well into protecting yourself in ways that no hacker can break through to get to you. Ain't good enough. Here's why.
People are upgrading to Windows 10 by the droves. The sheeple out there don't have a clue that anybody would want to intercept aspects of what they might consider their private info. Those that do either say something like, "I have nothing to hide," or, "That's life." And they upgrade.
So, what do the sheeple have to do with you? If you never do anything personal over the Internet with them, maybe nothing. But if you use email, or do banking, or purchase products with one of these Windows 10 users, kiss any info you shared with any of them good-bye. Microsoft has it.
August 08, 2015, 05:43:01 AM
Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
And solitaire too, lol. Might as well find your deck of cards and just play in real life.
Windows 10: users asked to pay subscription fee for Microsoft Solitaire
LOL
August 07, 2015, 08:32:48 AM
Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
And solitaire too, lol. Might as well find your deck of cards and just play in real life.
Windows 10: users asked to pay subscription fee for Microsoft Solitaire
August 07, 2015, 08:21:13 AM
Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
Mr Gates has already cashed out.
August 07, 2015, 06:43:58 AM
Looks like Windows 10 is going to charge $15 for the privilege of using their DVD player:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/windows-10-microsoft-charges-15-to-watch-dvds-on-new-operating-system-10442460.html
Seems a bit expensive when you can just install a free superior DVD player at no extra cost. One more nail in the coffin for Mr Gates.
August 05, 2015, 05:13:01 PM
One aspect of Win10:
Siri, is that you, or are you Binder in disguise?
Let your information flow from you....
I used Linux a lot at one point. Anyone heard of Slackware 2.1?
Might be time to give Linux a shot again.
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a voice-activated Cortana digital assistant
Siri, is that you, or are you Binder in disguise?
Let your information flow from you....
I used Linux a lot at one point. Anyone heard of Slackware 2.1?
Might be time to give Linux a shot again. August 05, 2015, 04:56:06 PM
Okay...... I don't like where this is going...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/
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Yes, Windows 10 will be the last numbered version of the OS and going forward it will simply become a ‘Windows’ subscription service. This upsets those who don’t like the idea of a subscription service, but the biggest concern is this: while Windows 10 will seamlessly upgrade to ‘Windows’ – this is a new beginning. Your OS would evolve into a new product for which you have to pay.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/
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“Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” explained Microsoft in its full statement to the Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”
I just have to laugh. I actually was talking to one person, whom I had told to not upgrade. He said he doesn't like the idea that this is what it will be with Windows in the future. I said we can stay with Windows 7 or Vista, and if we get a new computer, use our Windows 7/Vista disks to put on the new computer.
I personally have one Ubuntu, which I would recommend. I can see this being a problem in about 10 years, when most have lost their disks or newer programs just won't work with it. But I see this as a time for people to make the switch to Ubuntu, personally.
If enough people make the switch and start using Ubuntu programs (equivalent to MS programs), maybe MS will change their mind when people leave... maybe it's a long shot for the general public, but I know I'd pick Ubuntu over Windows 10 everytime.
Nobody does business to lose money, Microsoft has to capitalize on something from Windows 10, which in my opinion is your private information.
And maybe when enough people get caught by the police without a warrant, they'll switch too...
August 05, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
Yep, it does.
Good one, thanks!
Here's another article on what you should opt out (and hope that it helps):
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-spying-almost-everything-opt-130502898.html
I have free upgrades for my Win7 machines lined up, but now I wonder if I should just stay on 7. And why were they giving free upgrades right left and centre like that anyway?
By default (with the express settings) W10 seems to be quite inquisitive and talkative. I've found a quick howto on Reddit about strengthening privacy on Windows 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10/
Good one, thanks!
Here's another article on what you should opt out (and hope that it helps):
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-spying-almost-everything-opt-130502898.html
I have free upgrades for my Win7 machines lined up, but now I wonder if I should just stay on 7. And why were they giving free upgrades right left and centre like that anyway?
I believe they're also available for those with pirated versions.... it does make you wonder why, right?
Nobody does business to lose money, Microsoft has to capitalize on something from Windows 10, which in my opinion is your private information.
August 05, 2015, 04:46:48 PM
Okay...... I don't like where this is going...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/12/free-windows-10-has-high-cost/
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Yes, Windows 10 will be the last numbered version of the OS and going forward it will simply become a ‘Windows’ subscription service. This upsets those who don’t like the idea of a subscription service, but the biggest concern is this: while Windows 10 will seamlessly upgrade to ‘Windows’ – this is a new beginning. Your OS would evolve into a new product for which you have to pay.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/
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“Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” explained Microsoft in its full statement to the Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”
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