You are digging way too deep. You sound like an intelligent guy and your time is more valuable doing other things. Just because you are not Libitarian does not mean you don't like Bitcoin and cannot use it. You said to read the whole thing, well sorry I have better things to do...
I realize i went slighly overboard with this poll, but i guess even if 99% people say "No", it will at least raise awarness of the "social punishment vs mathematical algorithms" problem.
And i still will consider
Luke-Jr an enemy of Bitcoin.If it's because of what he said in the discussion you quoted then you have no clue as to the actual position bitcoin takes in society.
Bitcoin is a balancing force to the rigidness of the current monetary systems.
But without the deep roots of conventional economy bitcoin becomes worthless.
This is because globally stuff like food, energy and technology are the product of these conventional economies.
So in reality the best thing is to have both and i don't understand why Luke-Jr would be an enemy of bitcoin because he doesn't see bitcoin in the same extreme way that you seem to.
The notion of "If you're not with us you're against us." has a pretty sick history.