Is pirate considered a scammer by Bitcoin community*? Poll:vote/view results - page 3.

Francesco

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Quote from: muyuu on August 30, 2012, 05:29:31 AM

Quote from: Lethos on August 30, 2012, 04:03:26 AM

Quote from: muyuu on August 29, 2012, 08:20:17 PM

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV

+168 rep as we speak Grin

Never bother looking at that before, but their seems to be quiet a bit of feedback referring to his trade of currency back and forth.
That part is not surprising, consider what he was doing, but paypal?! seriously haha. There is your risk.

My favs are "paid for my burger +5", "ran a typical Ponzi -1", "owes me money, not very talkative about anything, past his repayment delays -1", "Owes me ~35 BTC, has defaulted on his debts. Not trustworthy -2"

So basically the burger more than compensates for all that Cheesy

This shuldn't be entertaining, but damn it is

"the people" can easily go quite far from acting rational...

muyuu

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Quote from: Lethos on August 30, 2012, 04:03:26 AM

Quote from: muyuu on August 29, 2012, 08:20:17 PM

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV

+168 rep as we speak Grin

Never bother looking at that before, but their seems to be quiet a bit of feedback referring to his trade of currency back and forth.
That part is not surprising, consider what he was doing, but paypal?! seriously haha. There is your risk.

My favs are "paid for my burger +5", "ran a typical Ponzi -1", "owes me money, not very talkative about anything, past his repayment delays -1", "Owes me ~35 BTC, has defaulted on his debts. Not trustworthy -2"

So basically the burger more than compensates for all that Cheesy

Lethos

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Quote from: muyuu on August 29, 2012, 08:20:17 PM

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV

+168 rep as we speak Grin

Never bother looking at that before, but their seems to be quiet a bit of feedback referring to his trade of currency back and forth.
That part is not surprising, consider what he was doing, but paypal?! seriously haha. There is your risk.

muyuu

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http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40&sign=ANY&type=RECV

+168 rep as we speak Grin

evolve

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Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

Everyone look at this post and laugh.

Then look at his signature and laugh even harder.

Edit: apparently he deleted his comment. I'm going to leave this up anyways.

AndrewBUD

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Can I get some thousands of bitcoins? I will take 20 scammer tags!

I will bet 500 pennies that nothing happens to Pirate, he'll pay back what he can... TONS of people will cry to the police/fbi whatever, but they'll be like uhhh, thanks for the details goodbye....

Everyone willingly gave this dude their money.. No way in hell is a forum post a legal binding contract.....

bitcoinbear

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Quote from: chungenhung on August 29, 2012, 04:16:33 PM

Quote from: bitcoinbear on August 29, 2012, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

While people are patiently waiting for pirate to pay back their money, are they earning the old interest rate (7%) or the new, lower rate (5%)?

Not that it really matters, that is still a shitload of interest every day.

It is 0% for the waiting period as I understand.
He have declared that BTCST has defaulted.

But in the post where he said he was closing down BCTST, he said people would still be earning intrest. He changed terms and therefore, he is a scammer.

chungenhung

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Quote from: bitcoinbear on August 29, 2012, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

While people are patiently waiting for pirate to pay back their money, are they earning the old interest rate (7%) or the new, lower rate (5%)?

Not that it really matters, that is still a shitload of interest every day.

It is 0% for the waiting period as I understand.
He have declared that BTCST has defaulted.

bitcoinbear

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Pirate is not a scammer. BS&T is not a ponzi. It turned to shit because so many tried to withdraw at the same time when he lowered the rate.

I can't wait to see the reaction when he pays everybody back, especially now all the news sites have made articles stating that it was a ponzi. Many lulz will be had by all.

While people are patiently waiting for pirate to pay back their money, are they earning the old interest rate (7%) or the new, lower rate (5%)?

Not that it really matters, that is still a shitload of interest every day.

Grinder

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on August 29, 2012, 08:31:10 AM

Quote from: Vod on August 29, 2012, 08:27:50 AM

He didn't rob anyone - money was given to him freely.

Just tell the fbi everyone sent it as a gift because of how awesome you are.

It's called embezzlement.

finkleshnorts

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Quote from: Vladimir on August 29, 2012, 01:50:13 PM

Comparing that Matthew at one point got a scammer tag by delaying 1BTC payment by a week or so. This indeed appears to be a case of double standards, does it not?

Yes, but I understand the decision to withhold judgement. It's politics.

Vladimir

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Comparing that Matthew at one point got a scammer tag by delaying 1BTC payment by a week or so. This indeed appears to be a case of double standards, does it not?

Raize

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IMHO, he should have gotten the scammer tag the Monday he didn't give bitlane his coin. He acknowledged on the forums that he had been contacted with the "j/k you nut" message in his BS&T edit. Scammer tags should be pretty cut and dry with two requirements:

1) That you've made a promise to pay and it clearly isn't a joke,
2) That you subsequently don't pay.

The problem is that all these people do agreements without time-frames or vagueness about what constitutes an agreement, which is why they should honestly be using escrows so such a thing doesn't show up on the forums.

Somewhere between 2010 and today we went from always using escrows to never using them, and I'm not sure why.

bitcoinbear

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Seems pretty cut and dry to me: He took money with a promise to repay, but didn't repay as asked. He should get the scammer tag to warn anybody who is new to the forum and has not watched this whole mess unfold.

muyuu

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Quote from: swissmate on August 29, 2012, 08:04:33 AM

Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!

Not even that.

the_thing

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Quote from: Vladimir on August 29, 2012, 09:07:47 AM

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No 7 (13%)

7 PPT operators ?

Scammed 'investors' in denial.

Vladimir

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No 7 (13%)

7 PPT operators ?

davidspitzer

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Quote from: Vod on August 29, 2012, 08:27:50 AM

Quote from: swissmate on August 29, 2012, 08:04:33 AM

Rob thousands of bitcoins and the only consequence is to recieve a "scammer tag" on the bitcointalk forum.

Yay!

He didn't rob anyone - money was given to him freely.

Actually Robbery requires force or threat of force - he would be guilty of theft through False Pretenses - Obtaining property by false pretenses is when a person obtains property by intentionally misrepresenting a past or existing fact.

Bitcoin Oz

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