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Quote from: Majestic-milf on Today at 07:58:24 AM

It's not. But you can't tell that to someone who is power hungry and will go any lengths to get it. Where I come from, it's when the time comes to vote you'd see those in power interested in the affairs of the common man because they want their votes. The sad part is that they give pittance to these youths to help them carry out their dirty bids but their own children are cocooned away in other places, oblivious (or should I say) caring less of what is going on.
Politics before wasn't as dirty as this. In the old days, politics was more of the inclusion of social clubs, the patronage system and an expression of opinion through art, literature and architecture which made those who weren't enfranchised( women and and non citizens) to also have a sense of belonging, unlike how we have it now.

I don't know what it's like in your country, but in my opinion, politics is the source of corruption, lust for power, evil...It can be said that politics has been dirty since its inception until now, not just dirty in recent years.

In the past, due to people's ignorance and technology not being as developed as it is today, they could easily hide and cover up all the crimes they committed. But with the development of technology today, their dirty things cannot continue to be hidden and we have a more realistic view of politics. If we had no internet, no smartphones, no social networks...I believe they would still continue to deceive us and we would not know the dirty things of politics.

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It's not. But you can't tell that to someone who is power hungry and will go any lengths to get it. Where I come from, it's when the time comes to vote you'd see those in power interested in the affairs of the common man because they want their votes. The sad part is that they give pittance to these youths to help them carry out their dirty bids but their own children are cocooned away in other places, oblivious (or should I say) caring less of what is going on.
Politics before wasn't as dirty as this. In the old days, politics was more of the inclusion of social clubs, the patronage system and an expression of opinion through art, literature and architecture which made those who weren't enfranchised( women and and non citizens) to also have a sense of belonging, unlike how we have it now.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

even in the olden days there is no political season we only know Christmas season, everyday are for the politics no day passes out without them not operating in the sector. But when it comes to Christmas season everyone get to hold at the moment in anything that they're doing, because it's festival season but when it comes to political time let me refer it as you say political season. Maybe it's because of the public holiday that makes you think politics do have a season and it's only in time of elections, that we know that it's the time of elections but even before then they were busy doing their thing but you can't compare it to Christmas season. Christmas season both the politician do know it's time for Christmas and they're still operating with their political matter. So for me I don't think politics do have a season.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

I am not into politics, which may be why I am somehow behind. I also think this may have led to my curiosity. Is there political season?
Back to your question... Politic is a do-or-die game for some politicians, which is why I never like it and I believe is that no politician was elected to a huge position that didn't kill someone at a point.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

You don’t need to be told what politics of today is and how it’s been portrayed by those politicians. It is very clear that it is a game of a do or die affair and anyone engaging in it always come well prepared for that. Politics is now a dirty game and those engage in them are now seen as the bad ones in the society and their words are no more believed to the truth of the matters when they come with one. Everyone believes it is for their own benefits and not for the interest of the people. I don’t live in the past or know how in-depth politics are in those days, if it was worse than this or better than this. From my time to now, politics have not been an encouraging activity to put yourself into and should be avoided by all means for now.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

OP, I do not know the country you are from as I cannot relate to this your post. If I understand you clearly, during Christmas season, people share gifts and exchange pleasantries as a show of love. If same happens during an election people, then it is obviously not an act of love, but a way the politicians try to bribe the people with gifts and fake smiles just to get pity votes.

Politicians who are only going there for their own selfish interests will always see elections as a do or die game and they will do everything within their powers to ensure they win, even if it means brainwashing the electorates to do their biddings and then abandon them immediately after the elections.

Politics was supposed to make lives better, but the few selected have decided to make things difficult for the people. In spite of all this, no one should lose faith in politics, with time, we will get it right.

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As of this present time, politics is known to be a do or die game unlike back then when it was a bit fair and the whole system isn't corrupt to this extent. Even with the level of democracy we claim, it's all to no avail because the system has been corrupt, before an election is being held the inner bodies, both those who are supposed to serve as an anti corrupt commission is working together with a specific candidate and at most they already know who the winner will be. Our votes don't really matter, the citizens choice of candidates don't really matter because the whole system is corrupt but we won't stop casting our votes, I believe time will come when everything will be served right.

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Quote from: EdinboroSc on July 05, 2024, 03:29:06 AM

Somehow the people are already tired of politics, there are only conflicts everywhere, why is that? Is this the scenario?

I disagree with you on that, those who are running the political affairs are not in any way ready to get tired of the game because they are the ones calling the shots, imagine you sitting at a place where you give orders and chose to pay workers and not to pay workers and nobody can come to you and say you're leaving office immediately because of that selfish act, no. Except for those who are not in anyway giving the chance of getting into the political activities like the citizens, those are the set of people who I can agree with you that they're tired of politics, mind you that people are not tired of politics but the politicians.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

olden days do not seem to be accurate as it still happens even now

in some countries, even as mine two of the biggest holiday would be election and christmas. this is the time where people go all out and try to seem as happy as possible even if it might not be true this is also both the times where politcians tend to help as much people

just like any holiday though it comes and goes the politcians you see helping people during election season would soon stop once they are in position

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

Let me also clarify that political seasons in a country is not the same thing as Christmas season, Christmas is a holiday that people celebrate on a particular day in almost every country but political seasons is election time and it differs in every country, they have their Year and date. Besides, Christmas is a time of enjoyment while political seasons in every country is a time of power tussle for political leaders to emerge.

Politics in most third world countries like in Africa, is do or die, politicians will do everything possible to remain in power or emerge as winners in elections. Their tugs will snatch election boxes, they will disrupt elections if they perceive that they are not winning and they will rig elections to win. Leadership is perhaps so lucrative that people that knows that they're not fit to be in power will still want to be or remain in power, it's very sad.

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Somehow the people are already tired of politics, there are only conflicts everywhere, why is that? Is this the scenario?

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In sports there is responsibility for winning and losing. But there is another thing associated with winning and losing in politics, that is responsibility. Politicians have to be accountable to the people for all their actions. On behalf of the people they have to constantly prove their responsibility by doing good deeds for the people. When politicians forget their responsibilities they start to think of politics as a mere game.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

When you say political season, I don't think these guys who run the show have a season of doing their stuff. To me politics has no season and the politicians do their thing every day as long as they are on the receiving end which is good business to them.

You are absolutely right and that is literally considering politics of now which politicians are more interested in rulership prioritizing selfish interest such as public funds embezzlement, complimenting the laws and still breaks the laws including acting inhuman by watching their citizens dieing over essential needs like hunger and meds which they government can actually create amenities for the provisions.

But relating to the OPs approach, yeah I understand that context clearly. He actually meant political seasons instead of electoral season such as the US is at her United States election now, so back in those eras, the seasons for elections used to seem a ceremonial and not the do or die affairs without the cause or havoc, crisis that takes lives at today's politics due to political interests.

So back then, it was more like a social activities which either looser or winner do embraces each other and the day or inaugurating the winning parties usually seem hopeful for a new era where the people would experience a more better life as we keep to have new phase of governments after governments.

Unlike now that politics has divided us all with factions and sentiments and criticisms everywhere.

It becomes a thing of joy to see the poor masses go hungry while they get more in their account, nothing can be done and believe me when I say politicians have good ones in their camp but 1 bad egg can spoil the mindset of the good ones because of money. Is so sad that when they are giving the opportunity to lead they rather use that chance to settle themselves rather than the citizens. By doing so they forget that they are the ones who are suppose be held accountable if anything goes wrong in any sector.
Politics shouldn't have been the way they turned it to be, is suppose to be a game of making everybody smile without suffering even if they feel like taking more they should also leave some for the people. If someone in the office has been coordinating things to be in place, good road, electricity, good water supply and all that I don't think there would be a need to change that person like I mean who doesn't like good things? People will always go for the best but in politics we don't have the best just greedy leaders.

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Nowadays politics is a do or die affairs and that shouldn't be, we have to understand the reality about life that there are things in which we like to go for and along the way discover that we are only moved by the way of its appearance and cant adapt the challenges involved in doing it neither do we have the ability to run a pursuit on it likewise, but instead of people to back out, they will continue all because they have the understanding of the money involved instead of going after what they can handle.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

The politics of the old days was the politics of people's rights, but the politics of the present time is hurting the people's rights. Now those leaders are undermining people's rights and taking away voting rights. Almost every country has such politics that they don't hesitate to kill any person for the purpose of gaining power.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

Was there a time like political season in the past? I haven’t heard of that or come across that before. Or do you mean those periods of campaigns? But those times are not festive periods and doesn’t call for any celebration to be termed as a festive season. Politicians do what they want at anytime as long as it is for their own peace and personal gain. Political time in this season are very hard times and not full of any fun since the people in those seats only care about themselves. The Christmas season still remains the time of joy and happiness where a lot of people exchange pleasantries and spend the best moments of the year with their families.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

Maybe that was then, but as of now, things have change and we don't have to trust each other again in politics, except for the festive celebration and this have to be on those related to us whom we could confide trust in, in politics, everyone is struggling for the survival of himself at all cost without minding if at others detriment or not, all they want is the satisfaction in the achievement of what they are pursuing.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

what was predominant at the time is probably selection of leaders and not election and it's very possible that people where not all that interested at politics that much to have known the benefit of having someone that's of your cartel in position of authority. Do you celebrate during an election when the person that's most likely going to win if you fold your hands is a terror? Most of the politicians that are vying for the position of leadership are individuals that are looking at thier selfish gains and that will forget those that elected them into office the moment they've successfully won the election. That's why they turn the election period into moments of war and chaos and will do all that it takes to ensure that the win in the election.

If the previledges most of these leaders are enjoying are cut shut and due process are followed during an election, then it's most likely that we might not be having cases of fighting and fear of war during election.

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Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

When you say political season, I don't think these guys who run the show have a season of doing their stuff. To me politics has no season and the politicians do their thing every day as long as they are on the receiving end which is good business to them...

Actually, I have seen people from the United States commenting how actually they are quite disengaged with politics, expect when there is an important election ahead and they need to figure who they are going to choose to vote for. There seems to be an important percentage of the population of that country who does not actually follow politics, they only start to care when it is "election season" and they get all the political news shoved down their throats by the media machinery of both the political left and the political right.
Keeping this points aside, I find that comparison between Christmas and Politics to be quite out of place, the first one is a holiday, supposed to be festive and bring peace and calmest to those who celebrate it, election season is about ideas colliding figuring out the best way to steer the country with no collateral damage, there is nothing holy or festive about it, at all. They both sound almost as incompatible from one another .

I think I agree with you, OP is not suppose to use those two as comparison because the Christmas part is a period where everyone put a stop to whatever activities they are engaged to and feel relaxed, have enjoyable time with family but that never stops politicians from doing their thing like I said. Politics is like the air we breathe in everyday to politicians, any day they miss out on any activity is like they have missed something big in life so they're always on the move, like a non stop train.
To me those who run the political affairs don't value the Christmas period you talk about, we shouldn't mind what they want us to believe on TV. If they do, what stops them from crediting all the workers or do something special every Xmas season? Politics has this greedy virus that's always on the minds of the politicians so they don't value Christmas.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on July 02, 2024, 07:58:34 PM

Quote from: premier97 on July 02, 2024, 04:46:34 PM

In the olden days, political seasons and Christmas season had no variance as both seasons were seen as festivities and exchange of pleasantries.

When you say political season, I don't think these guys who run the show have a season of doing their stuff. To me politics has no season and the politicians do their thing every day as long as they are on the receiving end which is good business to them.

You are absolutely right and that is literally considering politics of now which politicians are more interested in rulership prioritizing selfish interest such as public funds embezzlement, complimenting the laws and still breaks the laws including acting inhuman by watching their citizens dieing over essential needs like hunger and meds which they government can actually create amenities for the provisions.

But relating to the OPs approach, yeah I understand that context clearly. He actually meant political seasons instead of electoral season such as the US is at her United States election now, so back in those eras, the seasons for elections used to seem a ceremonial and not the do or die affairs without the cause or havoc, crisis that takes lives at today's politics due to political interests.

So back then, it was more like a social activities which either looser or winner do embraces each other and the day or inaugurating the winning parties usually seem hopeful for a new era where the people would experience a more better life as we keep to have new phase of governments after governments.

Unlike now that politics has divided us all with factions and sentiments and criticisms everywhere.

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