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Quote from: skarais on August 09, 2023, 04:30:48 PM

Quote from: Latviand on August 09, 2023, 11:58:48 AM

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You should know how to properly protect your account, and one way is by changing your password regularly and backup securely.
Storing your password online (eg at Google) is too risky for your security. It is not recommended for anyone concerned with security and privacy although you can login easily without bothering.

Imagine if you never backup your password, but you saved them in your browser, but suddenly you lost your device or it broke for something, how can you recover your account?

My guy, I have so much going on with my life right now and changing passwords or using different passwords for different accounts in different platforms are the last thing in my mind. It's only a risk if you're handling sensitive information that can jeopardize a lot of people which is unlikely for an individual and most hackers don't really target individuals frequently. Using the same password would probably be the solution for when you lose your device, imagine scrambling through all the passwords you've used and end up not knowing which one you've used.

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Ain’t nothing bad about having to change your password from time to time. In fact, it’s something you should do occasionally should you have any sense of insecurity and even when you don’t, it ain’t a bad idea and the forum has made provisions for change of passwords. Many experienced users still do change their password and in the event that you get investigated due to these changes, don’t feel so bad. It’s just a verification if it were to be you and for the rest of the forum to be safe about the account.

The only issue that could follow regular changing of password is you. You might forget or mix things up and that could be the end of it. Good enough, a signed address could aid you in recovery as concerns the forum so, you might just do that. Writing your passwords anywhere else, in a diary or on an online note pad have its measure of risk. Be guided!

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Quote from: Latviand on August 09, 2023, 11:58:48 AM

Quote from: Hyphen(-) on August 08, 2023, 12:43:30 PM

You are free, and no one is against you changing your password because, as you indicated, it is for security reasons.

But what reason would that be that you resort to changing passwords? I mean, you can just tick the Always Logged In in your browser so you don't have to relog. I don't know of any reason that someone will hack your forum account even if it makes a lot of money from signature campaigns, you can always report that you're account's stolen.

You should know how to properly protect your account, and one way is by changing your password regularly and backup securely.
Storing your password online (eg at Google) is too risky for your security. It is not recommended for anyone concerned with security and privacy although you can login easily without bothering.

Imagine if you never backup your password, but you saved them in your browser, but suddenly you lost your device or it broke for something, how can you recover your account?

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on August 08, 2023, 12:43:30 PM

You are free, and no one is against you changing your password because, as you indicated, it is for security reasons.

But what reason would that be that you resort to changing passwords? I mean, you can just tick the Always Logged In in your browser so you don't have to relog. I don't know of any reason that someone will hack your forum account even if it makes a lot of money from signature campaigns, you can always report that you're account's stolen.

Quote from: Hyphen(-) on August 08, 2023, 12:43:30 PM

When an account activates and appears suspicious, or the manner of posting and interactions in the account changes, reputable forum users usually use the password changing time as evidence to show the user wrong or to protect the account from being utilised by a hacker.

Highly circumstantial evidence though, what if they've forgotten their password or they've updated their password scheme but that's an unlikely thing to happen. Most password changes are almost always suspicious given how account selling is a thing here. Nothing wrong with changing password, as long as you can prove it's you by signing your PGP key, this one pretty much helps you avoid the suspicion altogether.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 08, 2023, 01:37:06 PM

I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

Sorry you mean the same forum that doesn't even verify your information when you register, the forum is one of the platforms that I have registered and noticed they don't give a fuck about anything you do. The forum is opened for everyone and you don't have to be some gurus or over serious person before you think you can register on the forum. The forum might even love the inexperienced users more so it can build them to becoming better cryptopreneurs. Just for context, my knowledge on Bitcoin isn't the same as of when I joined the forum, I have understood something's better that I won't have understood if I felt the forum only needed serious user and I didn't register.

I think you are misunderstanding what "smartgold" meant when she said the forum not meant for serious minded individual, because of anything anybody should never forget on this forum is his/her password & username, which judging from O.P's statement, this is not the first time, nor second time, or third time he/she has forgotten the password & kept resetting it without having a rethink to write it down on a piece of paper for future reference, which is the main reason why "Cai Lun" a Chinese royal court official invented paper & pen 2000 years ago, as a medium for future reference in times of need, which O.P failed to adopt. So i think what O.P need to do now is pen down on a piece of paper whatever password or username he uses, and stop having the mindset of resetting it everytime he forget.

I think you just automatically explained all mean in that context because looking deep to what op is saying, there is no sense having to keep resetting his account or coming later end to exclaim for his or her nasty and silly act. Well there is no restrictions over here that limits such an incoherent words and statements, that is if actually he could be heard again or given attention as I believe this thread would be active for references if there are issues to come.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on August 09, 2023, 02:22:40 AM

The suggestion to be serious comes from good advice, so that one day such a situation does not happen.
Imagine that the OP visits a forum regularly, for which he forgot the password for the hundredth time, but he is successful on the forum, and one day he increased his rank. But suddenly something went wrong, and he could not log into his account. And he has no password or recovery mail.

Absolutely this was my point as well.
At this point would he keep bugging Theymos for his action to restore back his account or call on mod and admin to look into his case. No because he was careless and not security conscious.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 08, 2023, 06:16:30 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 08, 2023, 01:37:06 PM

I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

Sorry you mean the same forum that doesn't even verify your information when you register, the forum is one of the platforms that I have registered and noticed they don't give a fuck about anything you do. The forum is opened for everyone and you don't have to be some gurus or over serious person before you think you can register on the forum. The forum might even love the inexperienced users more so it can build them to becoming better cryptopreneurs. Just for context, my knowledge on Bitcoin isn't the same as of when I joined the forum, I have understood something's better that I won't have understood if I felt the forum only needed serious user and I didn't register.

I think you are misunderstanding what "smartgold" meant when she said the forum not meant for serious minded individual, because of anything anybody should never forget on this forum is his/her password & username, which judging from O.P's statement, this is not the first time, nor second time, or third time he/she has forgotten the password & kept resetting it without having a rethink to write it down on a piece of paper for future reference, which is the main reason why "Cai Lun" a Chinese royal court official invented paper & pen 2000 years ago, as a medium for future reference in times of need, which O.P failed to adopt. So i think what O.P need to do now is pen down on a piece of paper whatever password or username he uses, and stop having the mindset of resetting it everytime he forget.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 08, 2023, 06:16:30 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 08, 2023, 01:37:06 PM

I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

Sorry you mean the same forum that doesn't even verify your information when you register, the forum is one of the platforms that I have registered and noticed they don't give a fuck about anything you do. The forum is opened for everyone and you don't have to be some gurus or over serious person before you think you can register on the forum. The forum might even love the inexperienced users more so it can build them to becoming better cryptopreneurs. Just for context, my knowledge on Bitcoin isn't the same as of when I joined the forum, I have understood something's better that I won't have understood if I felt the forum only needed serious user and I didn't register.

As for the change of password discussion, there's nothing wrong in that and no body will hold you accountable unless your activities shows signs of been suspicious like the account is hacked or has changed hands due to it been sold for signature earnings purposes. Changing of password frequently Is a good security measures that we should practice because our system can be compromised of malware that steals your private information without us knowing, just make sure you can prove ownership of the account when your ownership of the account is been doubted.

The suggestion to be serious comes from good advice, so that one day such a situation does not happen.
Imagine that the OP visits a forum regularly, for which he forgot the password for the hundredth time, but he is successful on the forum, and one day he increased his rank. But suddenly something went wrong, and he could not log into his account. And he has no password or recovery mail.

Quote from: sexylun on January 31, 2023, 01:54:41 PM

I am in strange trouble at the moment. I am logged in my browser but i have forgotten the password.
I will remain login as long as i don't logout. Is there any way i can recover my password ?

I remembered this story, and it seems to me that the OP may also face this situation, only much earlier.
That is why the suggestion to be more careful, namely more serious, looks like the right advice; it is in the interests of the OP.
By and large, everyone else does not care about his future, and this applies not only to life on the forum but in general to all of life. He alone is the master of his future.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 08, 2023, 01:37:06 PM

I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

Sorry you mean the same forum that doesn't even verify your information when you register, the forum is one of the platforms that I have registered and noticed they don't give a fuck about anything you do. The forum is opened for everyone and you don't have to be some gurus or over serious person before you think you can register on the forum. The forum might even love the inexperienced users more so it can build them to becoming better cryptopreneurs. Just for context, my knowledge on Bitcoin isn't the same as of when I joined the forum, I have understood something's better that I won't have understood if I felt the forum only needed serious user and I didn't register.

As for the change of password discussion, there's nothing wrong in that and no body will hold you accountable unless your activities shows signs of been suspicious like the account is hacked or has changed hands due to it been sold for signature earnings purposes. Changing of password frequently Is a good security measures that we should practice because our system can be compromised of malware that steals your private information without us knowing, just make sure you can prove ownership of the account when your ownership of the account is been doubted.

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Quote from: skarais on August 08, 2023, 04:00:13 PM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 08, 2023, 01:37:06 PM

I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

I disagree, but of course it's good to have more users aware of how to secure passwords and everything that concerns the security of their assets. Forum are not only for smart or have a lot of knowledge, this's are online forum that can accommodate anyone regardless of knowledge and ability to understand something. Anyone has the potential to change for the better and vice versa, so we continue to find people with different levels of ability and understanding every day. Anyone can accidentally make a mistake, but they only get better when they want to fix it.

No argument mate
I said that in my own perception rather I didn't literally say that people like him won't belong here why, of course here is a free forum for everyone to associate with irrespective of how lowered they seems to be and here is an open place for everyone to make account and start their journey gradually without having misunderstanding the whole concept.

People who are dull brain takes time to learn and they are not in a hurry for anything but to op with what he is saying this crystal shows that at any point he will raise alarm for misplacement of funds or to whatever since he can barely remember important things and we should try to know the most important things just like me, when it comes of finance I mean personal money I don't take it for joke especially when it involves securing one details or password I don't mind going to the deepest part to hide and protect it to make sure my funds are safe and secured.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on August 08, 2023, 01:37:06 PM

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on August 08, 2023, 01:55:46 AM

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I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

I disagree, but of course it's good to have more users aware of how to secure passwords and everything that concerns the security of their assets. Forum are not only for smart or have a lot of knowledge, this's are online forum that can accommodate anyone regardless of knowledge and ability to understand something. Anyone has the potential to change for the better and vice versa, so we continue to find people with different levels of ability and understanding every day. Anyone can accidentally make a mistake, but they only get better when they want to fix it.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on August 08, 2023, 01:55:46 AM

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 07, 2023, 09:34:00 AM

p.s: By the time of my writing, I don't remember my password. Tongue

Here is a statement that guarantees that one day you will lose your way here. As long as you take saving your data lightly, you should expect to either get hacked or simply lose confidence by regularly changing your passwords.
What's the problem with saving your passwords? Obviously, you won't be able to sign your Bitcoin address here since saving the seed phrase would be an unrealistic job for you. Roll Eyes

In addition, frequent password changes for users may not be a problem, but only for those who are sure that they will not confuse letters with numbers or even forget what password should be in their virtual save.
I would advise being more serious.

I think this forum doesn't need people who don't take things serious especially when it comes of password saving and phrase backup because I can still believe that one day he would come crying for losing his entire asset.

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 07, 2023, 09:34:00 AM

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If someone can't be concise with their information what more if they lost access to some few words in a form of letters as a phrase, btw changing password is not something that is bad but it should be that you don't regularly do it for a doing sake rather it should be that after some months maybe 5 months to 1 year interval you can decides to change your login details. However, you must stake a bitcoin wallet that will be as a backup to your account whenever unusual active is being found from your account DYING_S0UL.

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 07, 2023, 09:43:56 AM

Well, I am the original owner. I created this account in about a year ago. That time I couldn't be active due to some personal matter. But now that I'm totally free, I wanna dedicate my time to learn more.

p.s: The email is unchanged, I just had to reset the password several time due to the custom ROM testing.

You are free, and no one is against you changing your password because, as you indicated, it is for security reasons.

When an account activates and appears suspicious, or the manner of posting and interactions in the account changes, reputable forum users usually use the password changing time as evidence to show the user wrong or to protect the account from being utilised by a hacker.

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Quote from: NotATether on August 08, 2023, 06:53:56 AM

since you periodically wipe your device, you should at least get another secondary device to store your password file on (PC, tablet, or something else).

Since I will always test out new builds. I guess it's time to buy a new device. Grin

I guess, I got the answer to my question.

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on August 08, 2023, 10:00:42 AM

The old fashioned way of paper and pen still remains the best method of saving passwords to the best of my perspicacity, anyway.

Nothing can beat the old fashioned ways. Yes sir, I will write it down in a dairy or notebook and store it securely where it will be safe.

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 07, 2023, 09:34:00 AM

I know it may be added as a security measure like scam or buy-sell accounts, etc. But when a person sees that message, he or she may get a bad impression of the account. He or she may not trust the person, or the account may not get much interaction. Because I chanced password, now I'm tagged with that message.

Password reset isn't in anyway a bad thing except there's something one is hiding from the public glare. We do it on other sites we visit whenever we suspect something fishy with our accounts. Once I get at OTP (I ain't talking about here) on any site I use but didn't ask for it, I know someone what's to access my account without my knowledge. The next thing I do is reset my password. It simply tells you that they've broken your password but couldn't get pass the 2FA on that account. If with time you feel your password has become too easy, it's better changing it. It doesn't mean it's a bought or compromised account.

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1. I'm a custom ROM user. So I have to factory reset my phone in order to test the new build. I recently flashed several Roms to test.
(Clean flash is mandatory to avoid bugs)

2. I don't have any second devices. So I can't just have it logged in on another device.

You should make it a priority to get a second device then so you can separate your ROM duties from every other ones where you don't have to constantly reset to test stuff.

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3. I easily forget. One time I even forgot or confused my username because I used 0 (zero) instead of o in my username.

Solve the problem by writing out your username on a piece of paper, if you don't have a digital notebook.

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4. I always think of BTT as a highly valuable platform. I'm in fear that my BTT account would get compromised someday if I saved my password in an online place.

It's not a wise thing to do, whether with BTT or any other site. The old fashioned way of paper and pen still remains the best method of saving passwords to the best of my perspicacity, anyway.

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 08, 2023, 02:38:43 AM

But is this even safe and reliable? I don't want to save my passwords in a third party apps. Currently I don't own any secondary device, so won't be able to use the 2nd option.

ps: I don't know how self-hosting works. Never tried it.

Self-hosting is when you run the service on your own computer.

Bitwarden is open-source, so you can use a spare PC as a server and install it there. Or a virtual machine with Virtualbox or something with bridged networking (only if your PC has at least average amount of resources).

Keepass* XC (I misspelled it, it is not keypass) is also open-source but it's simply a stand-alone program that requires no server, you install it on your computer and it saves them in a file which you can protect with a password so that nobody else can open them.

Since Keepass only runs on a desktop, you should use an Android port of it such as this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android&hl=en&gl=US , although since you periodically wipe your device, you should at least get another secondary device to store your password file on (PC, tablet, or something else).

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Quote from: NotATether on August 08, 2023, 02:30:54 AM

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 08, 2023, 02:06:15 AM

Don't worry I'll try to remember the next time. If I try hard enough I can surely remember it even though if may be a complex,long,confusing password. The main problem is no matter what I do, once someone becomes a custom ROM user, they get addict to test new ROMs. To do that you have to either backup your data or have another device which I don't. So every time I flash, I have to start from scratch like connecting to Wifi, relogin gmail and stuff, reinstalling all apps, and relogin again. If I were a Legendary like you surely I will be more serious in security. Since I'm a newbie I won't get much much attention. But thanks anyway.

Use a password manager.

I use LastPass but their new rules about requiring you to pay to access it from multiple devices means its not suitable for free use anymore, so you should either use BitWarden, which has a mobile app and can even be self-hosted - or not, or use KeyPass XC which creates a vault on your computer as a file, to store your passwords and 2FA codes in (yes it can do that!)

Don't rely on the built-in browser password manager because as you said, it will be wiped out during the flashing.

But is this even safe and reliable? I don't want to save my passwords in a third party apps. Currently I don't own any secondary device, so won't be able to use the 2nd option.

ps: I don't know how self-hosting works. Never tried it.

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 08, 2023, 02:06:15 AM

Don't worry I'll try to remember the next time. If I try hard enough I can surely remember it even though if may be a complex,long,confusing password. The main problem is no matter what I do, once someone becomes a custom ROM user, they get addict to test new ROMs. To do that you have to either backup your data or have another device which I don't. So every time I flash, I have to start from scratch like connecting to Wifi, relogin gmail and stuff, reinstalling all apps, and relogin again. If I were a Legendary like you surely I will be more serious in security. Since I'm a newbie I won't get much much attention. But thanks anyway.

Use a password manager.

I use LastPass but their new rules about requiring you to pay to access it from multiple devices means its not suitable for free use anymore, so you should either use BitWarden, which has a mobile app and can even be self-hosted - or not, or use KeyPass XC which creates a vault on your computer as a file, to store your passwords and 2FA codes in (yes it can do that!)

Don't rely on the built-in browser password manager because as you said, it will be wiped out during the flashing.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on August 08, 2023, 01:55:46 AM

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 07, 2023, 09:34:00 AM

p.s: By the time of my writing, I don't remember my password. Tongue

Here is a statement that guarantees that one day you will lose your way here. As long as you take saving your data lightly, you should expect to either get hacked or simply lose confidence by regularly changing your passwords.
What's the problem with saving your passwords? Obviously, you won't be able to sign your Bitcoin address here since saving the seed phrase would be an unrealistic job for you. Roll Eyes

In addition, frequent password changes for users may not be a problem, but only for those who are sure that they will not confuse letters with numbers or even forget what password should be in their virtual save.
I would advise being more serious.

Don't worry I'll try to remember the next time. If I try hard enough I can surely remember it even though if may be a complex,long,confusing password. The main problem is no matter what I do, once someone becomes a custom ROM user, they get addict to test new ROMs. To do that you have to either backup your data or have another device which I don't. So every time I flash, I have to start from scratch like connecting to Wifi, relogin gmail and stuff, reinstalling all apps, and relogin again. If I were a Legendary like you surely I will be more serious in security. Since I'm a newbie I won't get much much attention. But thanks anyway.
I'll be serious

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on August 07, 2023, 09:34:00 AM

p.s: By the time of my writing, I don't remember my password. Tongue

Here is a statement that guarantees that one day you will lose your way here. As long as you take saving your data lightly, you should expect to either get hacked or simply lose confidence by regularly changing your passwords.
What's the problem with saving your passwords? Obviously, you won't be able to sign your Bitcoin address here since saving the seed phrase would be an unrealistic job for you. Roll Eyes

In addition, frequent password changes for users may not be a problem, but only for those who are sure that they will not confuse letters with numbers or even forget what password should be in their virtual save.
I would advise being more serious.

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As long as it is your account that you are changing the password,I don't see it as a problem. It is when you buy an account or hacked an account and change the password that it will be a big problem because the post quality will change and also the boards where you post will also change from the original owner. With those observation, it can be concluded that it isn't your account. To clear all futher doubt,you will be ask to sign a message and if you can't. You will face the consequences of your action.

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