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of course, such a habit is a waste. if they get together and discuss business or business development, then that's normal, but I think you can do it at your friend's house, or somewhere cheap. However, if I were you too, then I would do the same. maybe an occasional get-together with them would be a good thing. however, if it's most days, and spending a lot of money for nothing, or even just getting drunk, I'd probably look elsewhere.
However, success sometimes starts from the association you have. if your friends are businessmen, then you will be compelled to do business that may be bigger than your friends. however, if the environment you say is like that, well you will also end up wasting money in the end.
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They are spending on something that they could afford and lets just accept the fact that there are really people who are really that earning more than us, whether you are on the same job but their family status
According to the OP, the total estimated cost of their gathering is close to, if not even equal to, their monthly salary. 
Unless those men have other sources of income, just as you have suggested, which the OP is not aware of, if they do not, they are actually living a lavish lifestyle that is above their pay grade, which in a normal sense is really not a good way to live. 

But if they are actually earning from other sources and that amount could just be a penny to them, probably that amount is something less to them but huge to the OP because the OP's income is very low. 
We dont know on what story behind of those spendings and also 1/5 of his monthly salary isnt something that too small considering on how many times you would really be drinking together with your friends on weekly basis.Its been stated that 4x a week so that would be almost spending up his monthly salary with just having those weekly meet ups which means that it would really be that risky
if you do make yourself have that spending but if you are really just that been invited then i dont see any issues in related to that.I agree on what Hamphser said above that
if its out of your standard then you could just simply ignore them.
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They are spending on something that they could afford and lets just accept the fact that there are really people who are really that earning more than us, whether you are on the same job but their family status
According to the OP, the total estimated cost of their gathering is close to, if not even equal to, their monthly salary. 
Unless those men have other sources of income, just as you have suggested, which the OP is not aware of, if they do not, they are actually living a lavish lifestyle that is above their pay grade, which in a normal sense is really not a good way to live. 

But if they are actually earning from other sources and that amount could just be a penny to them, probably that amount is something less to them but huge to the OP because the OP's income is very low. 
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I don't believe on the principles of birds of the same feathers flies together because I have so many friend who drink and smoke which I don't and we are very close friends and I also have some group of friends who also do alot of womanizing but I've never been moved by their way of lives but rather we just gist and laugh over the entire issue..
Most times my friends talk ill of me when they seeing me going to church because I'm the churchy type and I always  prefer to be in church than outings.

What I'm actually saying in essence is that, the lifestyle of your friends shouldn't bother you so much and if they can afford such life for themselves then it's fine, hence you shouldn't try impressing them if you can't afford such lives as them. You have people seriously looking up to you.
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Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
They are spending on something that they could afford and lets just accept the fact that there are really people who are really that earning more than us, whether you are on the same job but their family status

and businesses might supporting them or someone of their friends are the ones who do make that treat which means that there's someone who would be spending.Yes, its a waste if you are just an average earners
and you would really be thinking that you should be saving up.If you get been bothered on their spendings then it is really a bit mix of being jealous or really having that envy but well this is the reality
of the world we are living on which inequality is really just that something we should need to deal with and accept.Just let them be on what they are doing.
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Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
Isn't it crazy how our financial values and attitudes shape the way we live our lives? Your crew seems to be all about partying and having a good time, while you're more about taking care of your family and keeping your finances in check. But you still hook 'em up with treats even though you don't drink - that's real friendship right there.

Spending money on your shindigs is all relative, you know what I'm saying? Some people might think it's a total waste, but others see it as an investment in their social life and networking skills. The key is to find that happy medium that works for your wallet and your lifestyle, ya feel me?

Personally, I like to keep things within budget when it comes to hanging with my homies and having a good time. Life is about making memories with the fam, but not at the expense of your bank account. How do you balance your social life and your finances, my friend?
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Regarding the balance between socialization and financial responsibility. I think This is a personal choice and comes down to individual values and priorities. While some may see such gatherings as a waste of money and time, others may see them as a way to build and maintain social relationships, which are just as important for personal well-being.

One's financial situation and responsibilities to family before engaging in costly activities. However, the occasional treat and socializing with friends can also benefit your mental health and can provide a break from your daily routine.

It is up to the individual to determine whether or not such a meeting is worthwhile as even if it is carried out the cost may vary depending on location and personal preference.
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I think its a psychological thing in the end. If you do it all the time, then it is a bad thing and not only you would be losing money, but you are not spending quality time with your family. You should avoid drinking all the time to make sure you spend a good time with your wife and your children. However, if you NEVER drink, then that would be also bad for you as well because you need to have some fun.
Is having fun associated with drinking alcohol? You said that you are in an Islamic society where the majority do not drink alcohol, does this mean that they do not have fun? I don't think it's a good idea to encourage someone to drink alcohol or support them to do anything that might harm himself.
Drinking alcohol is as bad a habit as smoking and drugs, and maybe the worst of them all. I respect people's freedom to choose what they consume and pay their money for, but at the same time I feel sorry for those who chose to commit suicide of their own free will.
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In my opinion, following most lifestyles is wasteful and wasting a time, if we are adults and can distinguish which is best, then it's time to follow a standard lifestyle, because most lifestyles will make us lose time that should be used for useful things.
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Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
I think that was a total waste of money what can we get by drinking what will be the possible result of drinking too much and what is the outcome of this wasting of money? If you are rich and has a lot of money and you think you can't be poor even if you drink and waste your money daily then you can drink and do what you want but if you are not that rich and you have a family to feed maybe you should think twice before doing unnecessary things.
Now im glad to know that there are still people who dont drink even the people around them are all drinking. We have the same experience OP. I always turn down also when they want me to take a shot but im still with them. Regarding to the question, at some point it is a waste of time if they keep doing it many times in a week. Just like you said they drink atleast four times a week it means they spending their income for it. They cant save much money if they keep spending it to alcohol. On the other hand its not a waste of time and money if they just do it occasionally like birthdays, anniversary, promotion or something good that happen because it will be a good memory that will be cherish till you get old.

Spending time and money for a lifestyle you cant afford is what I think a waste of money. When you spend more money than you have, you may have to rely on loans someday. Also, if you will choose to so spend like how your friends do, spending beyond your means, you may not be able to save enough money for important things. Material and expensive experiences can provide temporary happiness but we can still find true fulfillment from living within our means and  in the things that truly matter such as meaningful relationships and pursuing your passions.
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Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
I think that was a total waste of money what can we get by drinking what will be the possible result of drinking too much and what is the outcome of this wasting of money? If you are rich and has a lot of money and you think you can't be poor even if you drink and waste your money daily then you can drink and do what you want but if you are not that rich and you have a family to feed maybe you should think twice before doing unnecessary things.
Now im glad to know that there are still people who dont drink even the people around them are all drinking. We have the same experience OP. I always turn down also when they want me to take a shot but im still with them. Regarding to the question, at some point it is a waste of time if they keep doing it many times in a week. Just like you said they drink atleast four times a week it means they spending their income for it. They cant save much money if they keep spending it to alcohol. On the other hand its not a waste of time and money if they just do it occasionally like birthdays, anniversary, promotion or something good that happen because it will be a good memory that will be cherish till you get old.
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Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
After reading your entire post, I can say that your friend's way of life is a waste of time and money because no matter how much money may spend on things that doesn't contribute to your life positively, it is a waste.

As for me, I don't participate in these gatherings like, but if I were to recall the most recent one I attended, everyone who attended donated money, so i didn't spend a lot of money but amount all together was really much compared to my income

You should change your friends if not they will change you and pull you out of your family after wasting your money. In my estimation any lifestyle that does not promote health.

Yes I agree with you that he seriously need to change that set of friends, because anyone that is not contributing to our life positively, I don't think they worth living with.and if don't you may later be influence  by their lifestyle,because our life patterns sometimes are easily determine by closer people.
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From my perspective is yes their wasting so much money and time. But, if they dont mind it so you dont need to worry. You can decline their invitation and do your own work. Just focus on yourself and your family. Go find other good cirlce for you.
Everyone really has to think about himself basically, so being focused and consistent in every step that will be built by each person is the main thing that will be considered by each individual. Work is an important thing in life and when there is an invitation from others for additional work, everyone can consider it first before immediately taking it. Because additional work, of course, there will also be additional income if possible and does not interfere with one's basic work when it is done.
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Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
You should change your friends if not they will change you and pull you out of your family after wasting your money. In my estimation any lifestyle that does not promote health is both a waste of time and money. And I strongly recommend that people get a new one. Because in the end if you're not healthy then you have wasted a good portion of your life and you will suffer for it. I would also add that any lifestyle that keeps you away from your family and loved ones should be abandoned because in the end family is important. For the mall any lifestyle that does not involve having a social impact or positive impact in my estimation is also a waste of time and money. Health, family and having a positive impact on the world is very crucial and shouldn't be overlooked. Infact our lifestyles should revolve around this.
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From my perspective is yes their wasting so much money and time. But, if they dont mind it so you dont need to worry. You can decline their invitation and do your own work. Just focus on yourself and your family. Go find other good cirlce for you.
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Sometimes there are people who always think about lifestyle, they want to look more dynamic and follow the trend, of course this is tiring because it makes us have to waste money and time, it's better to live in moderation and moderation so you never think about other people's lifestyles.
many even do that, but not all of them just think about lifestyle and follow trends, but sometimes it is done by compulsion to achieve a job or other things that are profitable for themselves and also career development.

but if following the trend just to show others, I think it will be a waste of time and money.
we all have our own style and it is very suitable with life without having to be forced by following many trends, I think so.
lifestyle is endless if you continue to follow it.
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I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently.
I've tremendous respect for anyone who puts their family first above friendship. Friends will be there, but family is often thicker than friendship, let alone a friendship that's only strengthened on drinks. As a family man myself, I've had times in the past when I was faced with such a situation. I used to socialize a lot as a bachelor. Hangout on the weekends on booze. Then a few years in my marriage I figured out I needed to weed out certain influences of friends. I'm happier for it today. There's nothing much of benefit in hanging out for drinks on a regular. In fact, regular booze can damage one's organs to even think of it. The livers and kidneys aren't spared. Anyone having a nice home shouldn't compromise it for an exchange with beer friends. It's not worth it at all.
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whether they did the event in groups, and pooled the money together to do it, if possible like that wouldn't really make much of an impact, but if only 1 person was paying all the bills, it would feel terrible.But indeed such a habit is not good, especially if you routinely do it every month.if just going out occasionally just for a drink i guess it wouldn't be a problem.
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if it costs 20% of the total monthly income, I think that is very unreasonable, what about the daily needs of the family, or is there someone else working in the family? like his wife or children, or whether he has some other type of income from investments or not.
if they didn't, then it would be absolutely ridiculous for them to do that, are they in debt to do it?
you are good ,tay away from them.
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Sometimes there are people who always think about lifestyle, they want to look more dynamic and follow the trend, of course this is tiring because it makes us have to waste money and time, it's better to live in moderation and moderation so you never think about other people's lifestyles.
Moderation is the key word here. You would want to dress in good clothes because it gives you confidence and puts you out in a social circle. This has impacts on you if you are businessman or trying to set up connections. But over doing this is a waste.

Again spending on luxury items once a while is a good thing, but repeating it without necessity is wrong.

Henc it all comes down to moderation. That lifestyle problem is given to those  who cannot moderate. It becomes an important part of savings of you can and therefore should not be ignored.
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