Topic: Is Stake playing fair? What about others? Where is the line of trust here? (Read 590 times)

I dont think the dealer made it by purpose. Everyone can make mistakes. Now, the fairness of the casinos is for another talk...

Agreed.  You just need to look at some of the scammers shilling for them. 

And your previous account is this one, cryptogeniusdice? Same writing quirk like placing space in between punctuation, same issues like mines, sensor, provablyfair-me, betting history?

Stake.com is a full proof Scam website.


Just only boot lickers , and marketing these guys show as their expenditure.

I have won a lot earlier when they had api , as we can verify the bets and store them using various bots.

but eversince they have disabled the api , they are fucking with their customers.


they know people are addicted to their gaming experience.
their support says everything is based on luck, but its not.

Its just science of large numbers.


For eg: when i play mines, at some nonce they can manipulate multiple results giving an individual loss.
you can verify they.

Although they use sensor, to lock in your mouse randomly on loosing tile so that you can click on it .



16^64 is a very large number , and dependencies on accurate tiles is much high.
so they scam their customers.


Also, the third party verification provablyfair.me belongs to them . Meebit

Citing storage space examples they do not save more than 1000 bets in the system , they archive it . thus it becomes for them easy to manipulate the future bets

Discord buy in are damn shitty , all paid actors. they pick up people who are bootlickers of stake.com
Also if you have notice , the RNG tool eddie uses for Raffael picking , they dont disclose the link.

I have put in the post many time from my previous account .

I have signed up on stake since 2018 august , and not even once they have picked me eversince they have started discord challenge.

I have average of 32 tickets per week ever since they started Raffael draw. but not even once i had won.

This is pure gimmick in terms of gambling they are just entertainment site.

So, do not deposit any money on stake.com , you will guarantee loose and there is no coming back from that.


Sport book , they once paid and disabled my sports book for multi .

I do not think it is too easy to trace as there are several methods of withdrawal and there are several types of currencies. I think it could be easier if the site would publish the transaction hash. It is not clear whether the winning has been withdrawn at a time or on several withdrawals.

Are you sure he called his management at least? For me he first didn't notice the 10 card hasn't been scanned, so he retried to scann again the last one (the 3) and after that he realized the previous card hasn't been scanned too. But instead of calling a manager in order to cancel the wrong scan and to throw the 3 out of the game or to cancel the round, he just exchanged the cards for unknown reasons while giving an edge to the house with a 20 instead of a 13.

This video doesn't prove that Stake is a scam. That video is cut from Evolution Gaming's livestream and the dealer is not a cheater also. I was working there and can guarantee that everything is 100% fair. In the video you see that dealer had a hard time scanning the card. He was dealing cards quickly and he immediately didn't notice that the scanner didn't scan them and he accidentally dealt two cards. Then he called the service manager and the service manager told him to scan both cards. Then this dealer made a mistake and put cards wrongly. Believe me, absolutely every player would get a refund for that mistake and the dealer would get a violation for making that mistake. It doesn't stay unpunished. Also, keep in mind that Evolution works 24/7 and sometimes dealers have a hard time keeping awake and alive during night shifts.

That's the go to argument made by people that don't like the ratings. Very weak in my opinion since they have no reason or thought behind it. Same accusations are made in this sub-forum. That guys are on the take. The people using that argument don't realize that there are some honest people in the world that just like to do the right thing.

Hats off.
Now we can come back on topic, that is Stake casino right?

One of the worst things with crypto casinos are fake experts with their rating lists of recommended casinos.
I heard from several trusted sources that you can get very high on those lists if you pay money to grease everything with coins.
That is why I always ignore those lists and people who made them.

Then hats off to SportsBet for that, at least one thing is genuine & it's good to know that.  

I was wrong. The jackpot is genuine. I was searching Sportsbet and the blockchain. Nothing came up so I originally thought it was fake. I kept looking and searched WowPot and then found out it was real. Games Global paid in euros.

So that means there is no proof that's a genuine win then?

That’s Sportsbet press release that just went out. Search WowPot jackpot. None of the articles even mention Sportsbet. The only one that does comes out of Sportsbet. Although the jackpot was hit at Sportsbet. There’s no other way to say it other than Steve is dishonest. I’ve tried to work with him on complaints in the past and he’s the only book I’ve found to be dishonest.

But what about this?

https://news.bitcoin.com/online-casino-player-wins-record-42-million-slots-jackpot-on-sportsbet-io

Was taking it back what I said about SportsBet, you don't "buy" it then?


So this PR is just a PR and not a proof?


We don't owe each other anything and let's leave it that way.

Sportsbet didn’t pay a thing. It’s not on the blockchain. Steve said Sportsbook paid and there’s a picture of a check where it infers Sportsbet paid but that’s untrue. Coins Global paid in Euros. It’s their game. A progressive jackpot where many casinos are involved.

It’s similar to going into a store and buying a lotto ticket. You got the ticket from the store but the store doesn’t pay the winnings.

You really enjoy going off-topic with this one dont you?
I can do it if I want, or if I am paid to do it, but you can do some work yourself or ask Sportsbet.
It is not that hard to use blockchain explorer and find large transactions.

I haven’t been here in this section long so I’m going from first glance. You guys are doing a great job of sorting out what is and what isn’t a scam.

What I see in other parts of the forum is posters bowing down to the big books. No one knows who’s at fault in this blackjack case. What we do know is that neither Stake or Sportsbook are completely honest and they get forum protection. We have to put more pressure on the big casinos when they don’t pay and those two have been guilty numerous times.

The casinos  can’t be looking over KYC for months. That’s unacceptable but some books get a pass on it and others don’t.

edit - Sportsbet is now doing press releases of the jackpot. Smart move on their part.

What is the transaction then? Care to "easily" show it here?

What is this have to do with Stake casino?
I dont know why you would doubt that someone won this amount.
It was big time player who won this money and you can easily check blockchain transaction as proof,
and I think that game Wheel of Wishes is from third party partner Microgaming, not exclusive to any single casino.

Do what?  
It is not actually that hard to click and send merit to anyone if you want.
You should do it more often.

I've been looking more in to that jackpot because it didn't add up. I was searching Sportsbet and came up with nothing. Steve said the Sportsbet.io paid the player. Then I started searching WowPot and found a winner of Microgaming's WowPot on December 20. It's a progressive jackpot seeded with $2m Euros. I don't know how many casinos are paying in to it. I'm more of a sportsbook guy than casino.

https://www.gamingintelligence.com/products/casino/185955-games-global-pays-out-record-e38-5-million-through-wowpot-jackpot/

https://www.casinolistings.com/jackpots/microgaming/wow-pot-jackpot